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Michael Saylor Keynote Address | Clear Street Disruptive Technology Conference

Clear Street · 2025-11-25 · 1h 02m · View on YouTube →

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I'm going to get started.

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The next speaker needs absolutely zero introduction in this crowd.

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So Michael were delighted to have you.

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So Michael, Sailor, ladies and gentlemen, executive chairman of strategy.

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Nice to see you all today.

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I'm grateful to be invited to speak.

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It's a lovely hotel.

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I woke up this morning.

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The wades were lapping on the shore.

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There's a palm beach experience.

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I'm going to speak about the digital transformation of our capital markets.

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And specifically, three things.

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The formation of digital capital, the formation of a new asset class, digital credit, and then

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a new business model, a new type of company, the digital treasury company.

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And I think that we're in year one of this digital transformation because we didn't have

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global consensus on digital capital until March of this year.

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No one had seen digital credit instruments before January and February of this year.

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And even in the area of the business model digital treasury, there wasn't even clear

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in our mind exactly what the business model was long term until just a few months ago.

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Just in the past few months, I think it's all clicking and I'm delighted to share it

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with you.

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So let's start with digital capital.

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Well, you know, for those who didn't guess Bitcoin is digital capital.

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Capital, economic, well, long term store of value.

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People talk about a store of value asset.

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It's capital.

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What is 20th century capital?

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20th century capital is equity.

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We call them the equity capital markets.

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The private equity, public equity, real estate, sometimes art held as a store of value could

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be capital, maybe a sports team, gold.

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Capital is the left hand of money.

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The right hand of money is currency.

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Medium of exchange, the dollar, the peso, the yen, the euro.

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Stable coins are currency.

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Bitcoin is capital.

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A lot of times people come to erroneous conclusions because they think about money and they think

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money is currency as opposed to money is capital.

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But of course, money could be used, the phrase could be used to refer to currency or to capital.

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It just happens that a lot of people are lazy thinkers and they insist upon interpreting

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it as currency when it should be capital or interpreting it as capital when it should

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be currency.

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And I, well, Bitcoin must be awful because I can't buy coffee with it.

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But of course, Apple stock isn't awful because I can't buy coffee with it.

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But Apple is capital.

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And so if you define Apple as currency, then Apple is an awful currency.

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And Apple will never be in the world reserved currency.

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And therefore, I must not value Apple.

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But of course, that's stupid.

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Of course, Apple isn't currency.

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Apple is capital, just as in Bidia, just as a sports team is, just as gold is.

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People never really used gold as a medium of exchange.

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It's always been backing some credit instrument for thousands of years.

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So it's a myth to say, oh, yeah, we used gold as currency and as a store of value.

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Generally you do one or the other.

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So this capital idea, store of value capital, wouldn't it be great if I somehow came up with

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a digital way to store my economic world for all of eternity?

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So Toshi figured it out.

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People for 17 years couldn't agree on any thought over it.

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And the battle was decided by this administration after the number fifth.

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On March of this year, David Sacks said, beck one is digital gold.

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We recognize it as special.

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And as you can see, JD Vance thinks it's digital gold.

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Donald Trump thinks it's digital gold.

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Thank you.

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Heard from Eric Trump this morning who agrees it's a digital gold.

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Head of the SEC, Paul Actance thinks it's digital gold.

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But so does the head of the National Intelligence Director, I mean Toshi Gabbard or Kelly

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Laughler or Bill Polti or Robert F. Kennedy or Howard Lutnik or Cash Patel.

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Now those are people you wouldn't expect to have an opinion on the distinction between

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currency and capital and medium of exchange and store of value, right?

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It's a, by the way, if I took 100 PhD economists that are a classically trained, they probably

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wouldn't get it right because they tend to wrote, wrote, recite things that they learned

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40 or 50 years ago out of a textbook without thinking much about it.

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And of course, the phrase that everyone recites without thinking much about it is money

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is a store of value, medium exchange and unit of account there.

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And they stop and they don't really say much more about it.

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And of course, if it's very obvious to every member of the cabinet, Bitcoin is digital

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gold.

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And it was obvious to the President of the United States, you know, then that's a pretty

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big step forward.

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12 months ago we had one member of the cabinet, well 13 months ago.

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One member of the cabinet, Gary Gensler, who was a Bitcoin Maximist, you know, people,

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you could tell if you were sophisticated Gary Gensler was a Bitcoin Maximist for four

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years.

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The only people that couldn't tell were the alt coiners, but maybe they could tell too,

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which is why they didn't care for him that much.

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But Gensler's view was Bitcoin is a commodity, it's a digital asset, it is sort of a digital

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gold.

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He didn't care for anything else.

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And no one else in the Biden administration had any opinion whatsoever other than a negative

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skeptical one.

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So the November election was important.

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This decision to embrace Bitcoin was a very important move because that rippled everywhere

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in the world.

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What's the idea of digital gold?

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Gold, a bearer, non-sovereign, bearer instrument store a value asset that I can teleport from

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here to there on a digital rail.

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Okay, straightforward idea, you need a network to do it.

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The question is which network and which protocol.

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And for 15 years we all fought about which network, which protocol and the matter is

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decided by political power, it's decided by financial support, the banks have embraced

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crypto, but specifically they've embraced Bitcoin as digital capital.

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In the next six months you'll see a ton of banks start to custody Bitcoin and extend credit

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against it.

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In the past six months we've had about half of the major banks of the United States start

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to extend credit against Ibit, which is Rapp Bitcoin.

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So all that's happening this year as we speak, money determines the winner.

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So Wall Street embraced Bitcoin, the Ibit ETF is the most successful ETF in the history

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of Wall Street.

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I've often times said the war to determine the future of the money is going to be fought

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and won with money.

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So it's a question of how much money is going to go on to what network are we going to

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designate Dogecoin or Yo-Yo coin as digital capital, we're going to designate Bitcoin.

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And of course that's 140 billion from the ETFs.

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Companies 200 them capitalized on Bitcoin and they put about 100 billion in.

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Our companies spent a decent amount of that but we're not the only ones.

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If you were to say, what's the big idea?

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The big idea is a bunch of rich people want to keep their money and they don't trust the

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bank, they don't trust the government, they don't trust each other, they don't trust anybody.

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And they like to keep their money forever.

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So we created digital bank, we put it in cyberspace and since we don't trust each other, we

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all run a copy of the software and that's a decentralized network.

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Okay, well that's not a bad idea.

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This idea that we're going to put our money in a bank in cyberspace and we're going to

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run a decentralized protocol.

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And once you've decided that, the question is, well, can a human being engineer that?

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Well, yeah, they tried 50 times.

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Eventually Satoshi did it with Bitcoin, it worked, it caught.

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And the second idea is, well, is that the winning network or is there another protocol

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that's going to supplant it?

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That took about a decade to settle that question.

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There was the block size wars, there was a lot of struggle.

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But people oftentimes, they make the mistake of thinking this is an asset, it's not an

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asset, it's a protocol.

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It's a protocol that actually inspires a network, the network is hardware and software

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run by people.

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There's an asset circulating on that network.

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But the big idea is an economic protocol for digital capital.

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And if people all worry, well, what if that gets hacked?

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And the point that I make is, English is a protocol.

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Why are we speaking English?

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Because a bunch of smart, powerful people fought over this matter.

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And the people that spoke English won.

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If Napoleon had won, we'd be speaking French.

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If Hitler had won, we'd be speaking Germany.

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It turns out that the English speakers won the wars.

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We speak English.

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Why do we speak English?

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Because all the rich, powerful people speak English.

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Are there other languages, of course, there are?

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Can you imagine a better language, of course you can?

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Are there more beautiful languages, of course, there are?

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But the point is, the rich, powerful people don't speak that.

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The rich, powerful people speak English.

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You have kids, you want them to be rich and powerful, teach them English.

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Same is true with Arabic numerals.

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It's not the first system of numbers.

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The Babylonians have a different system, 360 degrees, 60 minutes, base 60 type system.

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The Greeks had a different system.

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The Romans had a different system.

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And then the Arabic system was a force system.

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There's probably who knows how many other systems of math, right?

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I mean, computers spoke base two, binary system.

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So people that used the protocol that won that didn't fight the war over the protocol forget

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that it was a decision made.

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And why do we use 0123456789?

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Because all the rich, powerful people settled upon it.

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By the way, not just because they settled on it, it was better.

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If you actually try to do math or build computers with Roman numerals versus computers with

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Arabic numerals, you know, or work, it just Arabic just worked better.

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Right?

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So sometimes a protocol has an advantage.

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And that advantage manifested itself.

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And if you look at this picture, what is this telling you?

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This is saying that the most Bitcoin is the winner because it's the most powerful electrically.

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It's got 24 gigawatts of electricity.

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It's the most powerful computationally.

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It's got 1,100 exa hash.

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That's more computer power than Microsoft and Amazon and Apple can muster to attack the

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network right now.

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So it was the most powerful computationally.

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It's the most powerful commercially, right?

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What you got as security or stock?

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How many of your stocks traded on a thousand exchanges simultaneously everywhere in the

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world 24, 7, 365?

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That's a simple question for me to answer because the answer is none.

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Right?

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It's like, I just listed a stock in Europe.

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We listed an STRE.

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We listed on the Luxembourg Stock Exchange.

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That's one of 27 capital markets in Europe.

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One of 27.

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I tried to actually list a Euro stock on the NASDAQ.

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NASDAQ doesn't support Euros.

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You can't have a Euro based stock on the NASDAQ.

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So what you find is that for the most part, a lot of assets don't trade 24, 7 globally.

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They trade very locally in the local nation, the local language, the local time zone.

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Bitcoin trades everywhere.

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So what other kind of power does it have?

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Well, it has hundreds of millions of holders.

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It has 700 million crypto believers.

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Has a lot of political power.

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The crypto lobby tipped the election in November.

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They're very powerful.

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So what do you want?

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You want political power?

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You want electrical power?

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You want computational power?

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You want commercial power?

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And then the other thing it has is economic power.

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There's $1.2 trillion of actual dollars that have been invested in that network.

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My company alone put $48 billion of actual cash in that network.

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That's probably on the order of, if not 10, somewhere between 10 and 100 times more than

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any other network.

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So the battle to determine the world's reserve capital network was determined by what?

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By smart people with money.

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And it's been never ending.

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It's been going on.

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And what you see today is this manifestation.

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A lot of smart money made a decision.

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A lot of smart people decided like Google or they decided like Apple or they decided like

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Amazon.

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And you could say well I can copy Amazon or my favorite is why New York City?

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I can create a city.

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Yeah, you can create a city.

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It's not that complicated to create a city.

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You create another city.

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There's a lot of port cities.

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There's one New York city because all the smart people with money decided that was the

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one that was best for a lot of reasons.

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If you go to San Francisco and you look, you can see that's a pretty good natural port

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Well what about some other port?

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The point is all the people with money and power picked that one.

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That's the network.

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That wins the war.

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And so once you understand that, you've got a digital capital network, 21 million coins.

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There's never going to be more than 21 million coins.

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And the question is is it better than gold?

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Yeah, a lot better.

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How much better?

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Infinitely better.

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Gold has an inflation rate of 2% Bitcoin has an inflation rate of 0%.

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2% means you got a half life of 36 years for your money.

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Means you live 100 years.

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0% means you have a half life of a billion trillion infinite years, which means you're going

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to live infinity.

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One of them is immortal.

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One of them is immortal, your godlike or you're just a person.

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When someone tells you 2% inflation doesn't matter, it matters.

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I'm going to build a machine and I'm going to remove 2% of the energy every cycle on the

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machine.

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Doesn't matter?

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Of course it matters.

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Every engineer knows you can't have 2% friction on every turn of the wheel.

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And yet that's what 2% inflation is.

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So gold is metallic capital.

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Bitcoin is digital capital.

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Digital capital is this idea that I think I just like to keep my money forever.

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What's the product?

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121 million of all the money in the world forever.

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That's the product.

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Okay.

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Good product.

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Can you design it?

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Yeah.

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It's a winning protocol.

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Well, I think so.

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It beat everybody else.

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Because there needs to be a winner.

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There needs to be, I mean, because of your smart and you have a, if you got 100 families

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with a billion dollars each and they want to keep their money and their choices, pick a

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winner or lose all their money.

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The shelling point is why don't we just pick the winner?

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We'll all use the winning network and we get to keep our money.

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What's the alternative?

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We lose our money.

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We go poor, right?

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So it's not a complicated idea.

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The game theory is pretty straightforward.

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The world's full of people that would like to keep their money.

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And who do they trust?

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They don't trust the French.

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They don't trust the Brits.

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They don't trust the Italians.

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They don't trust the Germans.

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They don't trust anybody in the Middle East.

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They don't trust anybody in Africa.

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They don't trust any South American company.

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They don't trust the Canadians.

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They don't trust the Australians.

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The Chinese don't trust the Chinese.

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It's illegal to take money out of China.

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Because everybody wants to do it.

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The Europeans don't trust the euro.

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They want the dollar.

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All the billionaire families I know live in Stodd.

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All the billionaires I know that have a villa in France.

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They have an apartment in Monaco.

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Think hard about it.

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Okay, so who are you going to trust?

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This is a tricky thing.

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Generally, the view of the world is everybody wants to move themselves and their money to

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the safest network, the most secure network.

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So where is that?

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That's the United States.

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I want United States property.

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I want my kids to have United States citizenship.

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I want to use the US dollar.

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I want US equities.

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But the problem is, you know, the United States is not always welcoming to foreigners.

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Right?

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Certainly, the Russian oligarchs don't get to move here.

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Right?

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The world is full of people that they would love to have economic security to the US.

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But then again, maybe your life is in Europe.

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Or your life is in Brazil.

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And maybe your life is in Mexico.

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You know, I live in Miami Beach.

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And I look across Indian Creek and I see these big condos and they're like 95% empty.

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It's all the Latin Americans.

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They come by a condo.

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They keep it.

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That's where they, you know, that was their Bitcoin.

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They were like putting their property in the US.

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They end to a piece of foreign real estate, you know, and then their daughters get pregnant

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and they send them to Miami to have the child so their kid has citizenship.

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Whether it's Venezuela or Mexican or Brazilian or whatever.

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It's not irrational.

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It's very rational.

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You can see it going on.

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But what does Bitcoin represent?

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It represents that the most secure property network in the world for people that don't get

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to move their personal or their money to the United States.

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By the way, if you live in the United States, there's this blue state red state thing and

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a lot of people worry in the blue state that maybe their property is not so secure and

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they move to the red states and that's what's driving immigration into Florida right now.

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So that's the first big idea, digital capital.

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The second big idea, digital treasury, the treasury company.

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What happens if you capitalize on digital capital?

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So we capitalize on Bitcoin.

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We bought it about 87 times.

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I want you to understand what we're doing.

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I believe Bitcoin is going up 30% a year for the next 20 years.

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It's been going up 50% for the last five years.

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It was going up 80% for eight years.

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So 30% represents a deceleration for 50% all the way down to 20% or 15% over 20 years.

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Every time we buy it, we're buying a digital monopoly, the world's dominant digital monetary

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network.

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We're going 30% a year at one time's revenue.

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Ask any CEO.

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If you could buy a monopoly growing 30% a year for the next 20 years at one time's revenue,

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would you do it?

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And the answer is of course you would.

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I mean, everyone would kill to be able to buy a company growing 30% a year at one time's

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revenue.

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Well, we just did the same roll up 87 times.

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We're just rolling up the digital monopoly on money.

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And of course, once you've done it once, you're like, well, what's the risk?

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Well, the risk is your wrong on Bitcoin.

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If I'm wrong on Bitcoin, that's the risk, right?

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The existential risk is Bitcoin.

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It's like, I bet on New York City, well, what if Bitcoin sinks beneath the waves?

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I'm going to lose my bet.

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The risk is thermonuclear warhead goes off in New York Harbor and my real estate is not

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that valuable or it sinks underneath the waves.

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The risk here is Bitcoin fails.

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So let's say you assume that risk.

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So what is the incremental risk on transactions one, two through 87?

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Nothing.

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So in fact, the risk-free rate for us is 30%.

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Once you've assumed the existential risk of capitalizing on Bitcoin, then you're basically

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buying something at one time's revenue growing 30% a year with no additional risk.

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That's the same risk.

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You might not agree with me if you hate Bitcoin, but what matters is that the 1% of people

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in the world that agree with me own the equity, and that's their view, they think Bitcoin's

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going up 30% a year.

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So once you get that, it's like, some people don't like New York City, but the ones that

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live in New York City, you will pry their apartment from their cold dead fingers.

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They think the world is New York and everything else is downhill from there and they're going

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to live there and you can give them a million excuses or a million reasons why it's risky

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to live there.

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What if this and what if that and one of the other thing in their view is, well, it's New York.

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You don't get it.

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It's New York, right?

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So in this particular case, you buy into the risk of Bitcoin.

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Now you do 87 acquisitions and we ended up acquiring 649,000 Bitcoin, about 3.1% of the

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network.

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It's not unlike buying 3.1% of the real estate in New York City.

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It's just big reat, right?

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We decided we believed in Howard Hughes bought up a lot more of Vegas, right?

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He came to Vegas.

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He bought up all of Vegas, right?

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Summerlin, all the strip, made insane amounts of money because he believed in Vegas.

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So you just buy up the real estate under a line the thing you believe in.

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What about the fifth largest treasury in the S&P 500?

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What's the big idea here?

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The only company on this list that actually keeps their capital is Berkshire Hathaway.

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The conventional corporate finance strategy is to return capital to the shareholders or

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surrender the capital or decapalyze.

0:23:14

And that's because those companies are capitalized on sovereign debt, or in this case short

0:23:19

dated treasuries.

0:23:22

They're negatively polarized to capital.

0:23:25

So the big idea I have here is that if you're negatively polarized to capital, you have

0:23:29

to get rid of your capital because it's toxic.

0:23:32

If you're positively polarized to capital, then the more capital you raise, the more money

0:23:38

you make.

0:23:40

Once you understand that, for example, the Venezuelan Bolivar could be viewed as capital.

0:23:47

And if you were capitalized on the Bolivar before it lost 99.9% of its value, I think you

0:23:54

can see by a common sense that you're negatively polarized to capital.

0:23:57

You have to get rid of it.

0:24:01

If you want to be rich in a hyperinflating economy, the way to do it is go into debt, borrow

0:24:06

a billion dollars when it's worth a billion and pay it off when it's worth a million.

0:24:12

So you need negative working capital if you're negatively polarized to capital.

0:24:17

So a rational CFO, they would just go to negative working capital.

0:24:22

That's why you do LBOs.

0:24:23

You borrow $10,20,30,50 billion because the cost to capital is lower than monetary inflation

0:24:30

rate and you don't want to carry the capital.

0:24:34

If you capitalized on Bitcoin, then it's the opposite.

0:24:37

Then you're outperforming the cost to capital.

0:24:40

And this chart illustrates it.

0:24:42

You see over the last five years, the cost to capital is 14%.

0:24:47

It's set by the S&P.

0:24:49

Guess what else is yielding 14%.

0:24:51

It turns out low and behold, the gold is yielding 14%.

0:24:54

How do you like that?

0:24:55

So 14% is your hurdle rate.

0:25:00

The normal capital asset is short dated treasury.

0:25:02

That's the money chart.

0:25:04

Money markets.

0:25:05

It's 3%.

0:25:06

Blended.

0:25:07

Okay.

0:25:08

Investing at 3, your hurdle is 14, your minus 11, you're destroying 11% of your treasury

0:25:14

every year, you're negatively polarized to capital.

0:25:18

If you could capitalize on the S&P, you could keep all your capital, meet the hurdle

0:25:24

rate.

0:25:25

The problem with that is it's illegal.

0:25:27

The investment company active 1940 made it illegal for a public company to capitalize

0:25:31

on a portfolio of securities.

0:25:34

Not something you might not everybody knows this.

0:25:36

I didn't know this.

0:25:37

But I never had reason to think it.

0:25:38

It was so ingrained that you just wouldn't do it.

0:25:41

It never occurred to me why, but it's written into the investment company active 1940.

0:25:48

So if you can't invest in the S&P, then you probably can't capitalize on Mag 7 stocks

0:25:53

either.

0:25:54

They're also securities.

0:25:56

There's only one Mag 7 stock that Nvidia can buy.

0:26:00

It's its own stock.

0:26:01

There's only one stock that Apple can buy.

0:26:05

Apple.

0:26:06

Why do we have buybacks?

0:26:07

Because it's the only stock that companies can buy per the SEC 40 act.

0:26:13

But look at Bitcoin.

0:26:14

Bitcoin is 48%.

0:26:15

Bitcoin is actually outperforming the cost to capital by 34% margin.

0:26:22

So this big idea is not that complicated.

0:26:26

If I have digital gold and it's deflationary, the definitely 2% and 0% is going to give

0:26:34

you the 48% instead of the 14%.

0:26:37

So if I have a deflationary digital gold like Bitcoin, then I can capitalize and I can

0:26:42

even leverage the company on it.

0:26:46

What else could you capitalize on?

0:26:47

You could capitalize on actual gold or real estate.

0:26:52

People tried to capitalize on gold.

0:26:54

It didn't work so well for a bunch of reasons.

0:26:56

But you can see at the end of the day, there's not enough juice in it to make it worth the

0:27:01

trouble.

0:27:02

And real estate underperforms the S&P.

0:27:06

Bonds don't work.

0:27:09

Not going to work.

0:27:11

You need a commodity or a property to capitalize company.

0:27:15

So Bitcoin is a breakthrough because it's a commodity but it's also a scarcity.

0:27:20

You can design a commodity that inflates 10% a year.

0:27:23

It's still a commodity.

0:27:24

It's an asset without an issuer.

0:27:28

But Satoshi's genius is designing a commodity that's an asset without an issuer that inflates

0:27:33

0% a year and the limit is T goes to infinity.

0:27:40

Dogecoin is inflationary by the way.

0:27:42

If you guys like Dogecoin, they have like 5 million or 5% a year or something like that.

0:27:47

It's not quite a percent but it's inflationary over time.

0:27:51

So this chart tells you everything you need to know.

0:27:54

In fact, this chart is pretty much the macro economic map for the last 5 years.

0:27:59

And what it tells you is if you're capitalized on bond you're in deep trouble.

0:28:02

That's why Silicon Valley bank went bankrupt.

0:28:05

That's why all the banks were technically insolvent because they're just awful investments.

0:28:10

And you can see that the secret to MSTR's performance is we fund at the cost of credit

0:28:17

or the cost of equity which is somewhere between 6 and 14%.

0:28:21

And then we invest at 48%.

0:28:24

And then our equity then is able to outperform Bitcoin.

0:28:31

We've grown through a number of cycles.

0:28:34

First we use cash flows.

0:28:37

Then we use senior debt.

0:28:39

Then we use convertible debt.

0:28:41

At one point we use some asset back debt.

0:28:44

And eventually we realize that the best sort of amplification for the equity was preferred

0:28:50

shares that are perpetual that never come due because that strips all the credit risk.

0:28:56

Senior debt doesn't work because you have eva.covenants.

0:28:59

Asset back debt doesn't work because you get margin called.

0:29:03

Convertible bonds worked to the $10 billion worth of it but at some point you outstrip the

0:29:08

convertible bond market.

0:29:11

And all of those are examples of using credit as a tactic to support the equity.

0:29:18

So the first four years of our company the equity was the product.

0:29:23

And the credit was the tactic.

0:29:25

When you're issuing 144 debt instruments that's a tactic to juice your equity.

0:29:32

What happened in 2025 is we realized that we should create a credit product and the credit

0:29:38

became the product, not the equity.

0:29:40

The equity became the byproduct of selling the credit.

0:29:43

We inverted the entire business model and strived stretch, stream, strike and stride at the

0:29:48

bottom.

0:29:49

Those are products.

0:29:50

They're credit products sold to the general public that then that in themselves have the

0:29:57

value and the equity is imbued with value because of the credit instruments.

0:30:03

And this picture helps a little bit more than this.

0:30:07

What is the treasury business model?

0:30:10

It's simple.

0:30:11

I raise capital.

0:30:12

I buy digital capital.

0:30:14

I strip the risk, the volatility, the delta and the duration off the capital.

0:30:21

I transform it into the currency of your choice.

0:30:25

And I give you the pure yield.

0:30:28

I give you a credit spread above the risk-free rate.

0:30:31

So what you can see here is the Bitcoin is about a 48% annualized yield.

0:30:37

It was a rolling 38-vol.

0:30:40

Call it like a 40% yield, 40% ARR, 40-vol type instrument.

0:30:46

If you walk down the street and you ask the average person, do you want to put your life savings

0:30:49

into that instrument?

0:30:50

The answer is generally no.

0:30:52

If they spend 100 hours or a thousand hours, they get convicted.

0:30:57

And if they don't need the money for four years, then that money they don't need for four

0:31:01

years after they spend 100 hours, they might put some of that in the Bitcoin or all of that.

0:31:07

That's the Bitcoin community.

0:31:08

But as you can imagine, you're not going to sell a product to a billion people if it takes

0:31:13

100 hours to understand it and if they can't use it for four years.

0:31:19

I have a beautiful car.

0:31:21

You can't drive it for four years.

0:31:23

There's a 100-hour course before you can buy it.

0:31:25

But after four years, it's going to be the best car ever.

0:31:29

That is not a consumer product.

0:31:31

That's something different.

0:31:32

It's almost like a religious product.

0:31:35

And if you go to Bitcoin conferences, we're pretty fervent.

0:31:38

We're pretty passionate.

0:31:41

But you can see what strategy is doing is we're taking the capital and we're stripping

0:31:47

the risk in the wall, extracting the yield and selling it as a credit instrument.

0:31:54

The first one was strike.

0:31:55

It was convertible preferred.

0:31:57

And we gave you a portion of the upside and we gave you a liquidation preference and

0:32:02

we give you a fat dividend.

0:32:04

So it's like a Bitcoin fellowship.

0:32:08

You get some upside, you get paid a living stipend while you wait and you get way over collateral

0:32:13

eyes and it's for someone that wants to have their cake and eat it too but doesn't want

0:32:17

the roller coaster.

0:32:19

So we did that and that was a billion dollar idea.

0:32:23

And then we did strife, STRF and that was 10% dividend at par.

0:32:27

And that was, I'm just going to pay you 10% forever.

0:32:33

And here's the other interesting observation.

0:32:36

We would like to have paid 5% instead of 10%.

0:32:38

But we realized we'd have to pay 10% to sell the preferred.

0:32:43

And then it occurred to me that it's a lot better to pay 10% forever than 5% on a 5-year

0:32:47

note.

0:32:49

If you pay 5% on a 5-year note, you're like any of 50,000 other corporate issuers.

0:32:54

When you pay 10% forever, you're the best if the person wanted to buy fixed income.

0:33:01

So what turned out to be the bug inverted to be the feature.

0:33:05

And that's actually the theme of my entire presentation, which is the bug of Bitcoin becomes

0:33:11

the feature.

0:33:13

The bug of digital credit becomes the feature.

0:33:17

Over and over again, the bug of the business model becomes the feature and that's the innovation

0:33:22

here.

0:33:23

So we did a few other deals.

0:33:27

We did stride where we stripped a cumulative right off of the instrument and it adds about

0:33:32

a 400 to 500 basis point credit spread.

0:33:35

So you either get the 10% in the investment grade bond-like instrument or you get the 15%

0:33:41

in the equity-like instrument.

0:33:43

And the truth is, the people that want the former don't want the latter.

0:33:47

And the people that want the latter prefer the latter over the former.

0:33:50

And so we just tapped into two different pools of capital there.

0:33:54

And while we were working through this, we tried to go do a deal in Europe and we got

0:34:00

stymied by a regulator and we couldn't do something so I, in the summer, I thought,

0:34:06

what can we sell in the US?

0:34:08

And we thought about selling a Euro instrument on the NASDAQ, but the NASDAQ wouldn't list

0:34:14

it because they can't support foreign currencies.

0:34:16

And then we thought about it again and we could do that.

0:34:18

So we thought, well, what can we do in dollars?

0:34:22

And we'd already done the long end of the yield curve.

0:34:23

We sold a 10-year duration instrument.

0:34:26

So I thought, what about a one-month duration instrument?

0:34:29

And we started thinking about an adjustable variable rate monthly preferred stock.

0:34:36

And partly it was, what could we do or what we haven't done?

0:34:39

And then partly it was people just want to get their principal back.

0:34:43

And partly as they want cash dividends.

0:34:46

So we started thinking about this product stretch and stretch became the biggest piece

0:34:51

of financial engineering.

0:34:52

It stretches like kerosene distilled from a barrel of crude oil.

0:34:56

It's just pure liquid energy.

0:35:00

And as you can see, the way the tower is working right now is we've stripped the 38 to 28

0:35:06

to 21 to 16 and a 9 ball.

0:35:09

There is a conservation of energy.

0:35:12

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

0:35:15

That's a law of thermodynamics.

0:35:16

So if I make the volatility go away from the credit, it has to go somewhere.

0:35:21

So what it does is it floats up to the equity.

0:35:24

And so does the excess performance.

0:35:25

So we end up creating a highly volatile high performance equity by creating lower volatility,

0:35:33

lower performance, less risky credit instruments.

0:35:37

And the entire company's reason for being is to actually take an asset Bitcoin,

0:35:43

which is call it a 10-year duration instrument with 50 ball and 50 AR.

0:35:50

And we carve out of that a one month duration or one year duration.

0:35:55

And we carve out of that 10% AR.

0:35:59

And we carve out of that we stripped 90% of the volatility off or 90% of the risk off.

0:36:06

And we offered that to a credit investor.

0:36:10

In the process of doing that, we actually create Bitcoin per share.

0:36:14

So we're creating BTC yield.

0:36:17

We're adding Bitcoin, Satoshi's per share every single time period.

0:36:22

Because when I sell a billion dollars worth of credit and buy back a billion of Bitcoin,

0:36:26

I wish you'd know common stock.

0:36:29

But I have actually bought a billion of Bitcoin so the equity gets amplified.

0:36:36

And you can see here a snapshot of the capital structure.

0:36:41

And as since with $61 billion of Bitcoin value,

0:36:46

we have a bit of debt, 8.2 billion of convertible debt from our last four-year period.

0:36:53

We will equitize that over time, but that's about 13% of our hard assets.

0:36:58

That means that Bitcoin could fall 85% and we're still covered, over collateralized on the debt.

0:37:04

But the more interesting thing is that the dividend payments represent 1.3% of the net assets.

0:37:11

So that means Bitcoin has to appreciate 130 basis points a year to cover the dividends forever.

0:37:17

There's perception that somehow this is risky.

0:37:19

But the bet that we're making is we think Bitcoin will go up 1.3% a year.

0:37:26

And if we're wrong in 77 years, we have to come up with a different idea.

0:37:31

That's if we're wrong.

0:37:33

Assuming Bitcoin goes up zero.

0:37:35

If Bitcoin goes to zero tomorrow immediately forever, then of course, this is not going to work.

0:37:42

But the way the math works is you create shareholder value and you pay the dividends forever.

0:37:51

If you get 130 basis points of BTC gain or appreciation.

0:37:56

If Bitcoin appreciates faster than the blended dividend rate, the 10% or so,

0:38:02

then you actually outperform Bitcoin with the equity.

0:38:05

So your two numbers are, your minimum is your creating value.

0:38:10

The 10% hurdle is your outperforming Bitcoin.

0:38:13

And at 0% and 77 years, you run out of money.

0:38:20

We just managed to get a credit rating from the S&P.

0:38:23

This is challenging given the Basel Accords, Basel Framework value Bitcoin is zero.

0:38:30

But as Basel gets updated and it looks like it will get updated, I think we'll move our way up this credit stack.

0:38:37

The advantage of getting the credit rating is that triple the addressable market for our credit instruments overnight.

0:38:43

So that was good.

0:38:44

There's a lot of people that like digital assets and believe in Bitcoin, but they couldn't buy without a credit rating.

0:38:49

And so this was very important to them.

0:38:53

And so now we get to the third part digital credit.

0:38:58

Well, these are the products, right?

0:39:00

What is strike?

0:39:02

Well, it's got an equity component.

0:39:04

It's got an effective yield and its 4x over collateralized.

0:39:10

What is stride?

0:39:12

It's a long duration high yield instrument.

0:39:15

So it has an effective yield of 14%.

0:39:20

Tax equivalent yield of 22.

0:39:21

Why is it tax equivalent yield of 22%?

0:39:24

Because it's a return to capital dividend, a rock dividend.

0:39:27

It means that it's tax-deferred until you reduce your basis to zero.

0:39:31

So one of the elegant things about digital credit is they're all rock dividends if they're issued by a treasury company.

0:39:41

You can see what you're competing against, but I think you guys know what you can get in the market.

0:39:45

Normal junk bonds or private credit are half of that.

0:39:50

Strifa pays 9.5%, even 10% tax equivalent yield is 15.

0:39:56

It's the most highly over collateralized.

0:39:59

It's the long-as-duration instrument.

0:40:02

And stretch is treasury credit.

0:40:06

So if you think about, if you were to say, what I think is the perfect product,

0:40:10

the perfect product is 600 to 800 basis points of pure yield over the risk-free rate

0:40:17

in the currency of your liabilities in a stable instrument.

0:40:22

Like, that's what, it's a high yield bank account.

0:40:25

Who wants that? Everybody wants that.

0:40:27

The only question is, what's the catch?

0:40:30

And the catch is you have to believe in Bitcoin.

0:40:32

That's your first risk, and then you have to trust the issuer.

0:40:36

If you trust the issuer, you believe in Bitcoin, then you're probably going to ask,

0:40:40

well, what is the ball and what is the liquidity to decide,

0:40:43

can you get 20 million in and out of it, or is it 2 million in and out, or 200,000 in and out?

0:40:48

But the idea of treasury credit is just a fortunate, serendipitous discovery.

0:40:55

We tripped over it.

0:40:57

Nobody in the history of the capital markets has created a monthly variable rate preferred stock.

0:41:04

It's not that it's illegal.

0:41:05

It's not that you can't.

0:41:06

So the security law lets you do it.

0:41:08

You can do just about anything with a preferred stock.

0:41:11

It's just that no well-run company ever thought to do it, or had a motive to do it, or a reason to do it.

0:41:19

And so when you put together digital capital with AI, with a publicly listed preferred,

0:41:30

with a shelf registration, with an ATM, now we blended all the best elements of crypto and ETFs

0:41:39

and public companies and ATMs, all of them together with a digital distribution channel.

0:41:46

And now it seems like a pretty obvious idea.

0:41:51

But I can even say, I don't think this was developed over the weekend by me out of frustration of not being able to do anything else using an AI.

0:42:01

And if I had not had an AI, and I hadn't had the other experiences of having done strike and strife

0:42:09

and done the $30 billion of ATM revenue.

0:42:14

And if I hadn't, you know, if it hadn't all come together the same time we never would have found this.

0:42:19

So it's a simple thing to do in the year 2025 with all the right technology.

0:42:24

But in the year 2022 or 2019, it would never happen.

0:42:31

Stream is the deal we did just two weeks ago.

0:42:33

It's basically a version of strife that's in euros, 100-year-old par of value pays 10% at par.

0:42:43

It turns out that we were like one of the first issues a preferred stock in Europe.

0:42:48

Because most of the time fixed income in Europe is hybrids, they're bond instruments.

0:42:53

And they're bond instruments because the companies that issue them want to be able to deduct the dividend,

0:42:57

or deduct the dividends as interest because it's to their advantage.

0:43:02

And here you stumble on a very another theme, which is most credit instruments are issued to the benefit of the issuer,

0:43:10

or they're crippled because the credit is issued tactically to fund a project,

0:43:17

an automobile, a building, a service, a stock buyback.

0:43:23

People are issuing credit to benefit the equity or the product or the service.

0:43:32

Let me invert your worldview.

0:43:34

What if you issued the credit as the product?

0:43:37

What if the goal was I want to create the best credit instrument for someone to buy?

0:43:44

Well, for what purpose? Just to do it.

0:43:47

What are you going to do with the money? I'm going to buy Bitcoin.

0:43:48

Do you have done that before?

0:43:49

Yeah, 100 times before.

0:43:52

So what's the unique project? There's no unique project.

0:43:54

So what are you trying to do?

0:43:55

I'm trying to create the credit, which is the best in the world.

0:43:59

So now you invert.

0:44:00

You're like, I'm not going to cripple the credit.

0:44:02

I'm actually going to make the credit fly.

0:44:06

I want to empower it.

0:44:08

So with stretch, we created it.

0:44:10

It came out at 90 and it's on this path to stabilize it 100.

0:44:16

And we have a lot of tools to do it.

0:44:18

Partly time does it.

0:44:20

Partly is the AUM grows.

0:44:22

It gets stable. Partly it's marketing.

0:44:24

Partly we adjust the dividend up if it's weak.

0:44:27

And if it trades above 100, we can exercise the ATM to trim the ball off the side.

0:44:33

So there's a lot of things going on here as it approaches par and stabilizes.

0:44:37

But that's the first four months.

0:44:42

So this is our digital credit line.

0:44:45

And what you can see is we kind of went from a $0 business to $7.6 billion

0:44:49

or business in 10 months.

0:44:55

And I joke with people.

0:44:57

It took me a decade to come up with a billion dollar idea.

0:45:01

I'm talking to the company public.

0:45:02

Then I spent 20 years trying to come up with a second billion dollar idea.

0:45:05

I could not find it.

0:45:06

I tried 20 things.

0:45:07

They all didn't work.

0:45:10

And then the COVID lockdowns came and we discovered digital capital.

0:45:14

And that was the second billion dollar idea.

0:45:17

And then converts with a third billion dollar idea.

0:45:20

And then the ATMs were the fourth billion dollar idea.

0:45:24

And that all happened over the next four years.

0:45:26

And then in 2025, we combined AI with preferred, with credit.

0:45:31

And we came up with strike, strife, stride, stretch, and stream.

0:45:38

And it was literally a billion dollar idea every eight weeks.

0:45:41

A billion dollar business.

0:45:44

So why we're combining digital capital, digital intelligence,

0:45:48

great digital credit.

0:45:51

And what market are you targeting?

0:45:52

You're targeting the $300 trillion credit market.

0:45:57

So what's special about these things?

0:45:59

Well, they're the most liquid preferred stocks in the history of the world.

0:46:05

You can see the liquidity which started at $70 million.

0:46:07

And we're up to like $387 million a week.

0:46:11

And so they're starting to trade in sane volumes.

0:46:15

The normal preferred stock trades $100,000 a day over the counter.

0:46:20

The public listed hybrid or preferred trades a million dollars a day.

0:46:26

The first tries we had, we're trading 20 million or 30 million, 20 or 30 X that.

0:46:31

And then stretched traded 100 X that.

0:46:33

And now it's moving to 200 X that.

0:46:36

And it's the first year.

0:46:37

So we really have line of sight to something that trades a billion dollars a day.

0:46:43

And if you ask the average sales person in finance, what do you think about

0:46:47

prefs?

0:46:47

They think, well, these things are all kind of dogs.

0:46:50

They're boring.

0:46:51

They're complicated.

0:46:53

I mean, it's all kind of garbage.

0:46:55

I mean, I think it's garbage.

0:46:56

It's like you're yielding 6% and is it issued by one of 5,000 regional banks.

0:47:01

It's heterogeneous credit.

0:47:03

You don't have any bond guarantees.

0:47:05

The yield isn't that good.

0:47:06

It's over the counter traded.

0:47:08

You can't find it.

0:47:09

You need a Bloomberg and an Accusive number to figure out what's going on.

0:47:14

It's almost like constructed to make it difficult for people to buy it.

0:47:21

And that's what happens when you think the credit is the tactic as opposed to the credit

0:47:28

is the product.

0:47:32

Now I talked about serendipity.

0:47:34

We kept stumbling upon things, right?

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Credit on Bitcoin is better.

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ATMs are better.

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Four letter tickers are better.

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Shop registrations are better.

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And then we stumbled on the fact that all of our dividends are tax-free.

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Tax deferred technically.

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When we pay you the dividend, it's a return of capital, which means if you're a retail

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investor, you don't pay city tax, state tax, or federal tax on it.

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You just reduce your basis.

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So your 10% is a 10% cash dividend.

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How do you do that?

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Well, you have to have negative earnings and profit.

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So as a practical matter, no well run bank can do that.

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They're always going to be taxable.

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No well run company can do that.

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You have to build a treasury company from the beginning that was never to generate earnings

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and profit in order to do this.

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So the bug becomes the feature.

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Again, that's the theme.

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The bug is the feature.

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How do you pay the dividends?

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Well, you either sell the capital that you bought, right?

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You buy Bitcoin at 10,000.

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It goes to 100,000.

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You sell some of it.

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You pay the dividend.

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That is a return of capital.

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Or you sell the equity back by the Bitcoin, and that is a return of capital.

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And how long can you do that?

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Well, you can do that forever.

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What do you need?

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You're going to go up more than 130 basis points.

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Is that sustainable?

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Of course it is.

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Now that has some profound consequences.

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The first is now you've got a path to amplify your equity, right?

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If you just start selling it, if you have 60 billion of Bitcoin, you sell 6 billion

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dollars of credit, you've generated 10 percent yield, and you've generated an amplification,

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and you end up creating Bitcoin per share.

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So you just sell the credit in order to outperform Bitcoin.

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It's a pretty straightforward thing.

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But I don't really want to talk about the equity so much.

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The equity used to be the product.

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Now the credit is the product.

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I think the most interesting thing is digital credit.

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So let's talk a little bit about the theory of digital credit.

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Well, digital credit is built on Bitcoin.

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That's an appreciating asset.

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The mortgage back credit is built on someone's house.

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It's a depreciating house or commercial credit, or it's backed by products and services

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of a company.

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So a lot of collateral is depreciating, but Bitcoin is a appreciating.

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When you're holding a billion dollars of mortgage back securities that you're back by 8,000

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loans, it's heterogeneous, it's opaque, it's discrete.

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When you're holding a billion dollars of Bitcoin credit is backed by Bitcoin.

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It's transparent, it's homogenous and continuous.

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On our website, we have our credit model.

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We updated every 15 seconds.

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You can go to the credit tab.

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You can type in the ball, volatility forecast.

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You can type in your AIR.

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You can type, it loads with the current ball, the current price of Bitcoin every 15 seconds.

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But you can type in your own assumptions.

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And it'll spit out the credit spreads, the risk, et cetera.

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You can't do that with commercial credit, retail credit, credit card credit.

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You can't do it with sovereign credit.

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The credit risk on Ukrainian bond tends to discreetly change depending upon the disposition

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of politics in the war.

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So the third big, by the way, and each time we do something like that, we can pay a higher

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yield.

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So the reason these digital credit instruments pay a higher yield is because structurally

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they're just better.

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For example, bank credit is a bank deposit.

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Bank deposits are two day loans.

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The bank has to give you back your money in 48 hours or 24 hours if you want it back.

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It's overnight money.

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Corporate debt is three to five year duration capital.

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So what you have is overnight money or short duration capital and most credit instruments.

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They amplify risk.

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It's kind of obvious if I basically take $10 billion of bank deposits and then I issue $10

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billion of mortgages for 20 years, I have borrowed short.

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I have lent long.

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That's why I get to run on the bank.

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If I go into the repo market and I borrow the money for two weeks or a month and then I

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go and buy mortgages or I love her up, that's what Lee's Shearson or, well, that's what

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Lehman Brothers did.

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You're just borrowing short lending long.

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You blow yourself up.

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But the beauty of preferred equity is, first of all, it's not debt, it's equity.

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It's literally not leverage.

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It never comes due.

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And so equity mitigates risk.

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It doesn't amplify risk.

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It's still credit.

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It's equity credit, not debt credit, not deposit credit.

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Most people think of credit in the form of deposits.

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Those companies in Europe, they want to issue debt so they can get the tax treatment,

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but they're actually making them liabilities, not assets.

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We took it one step further.

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We actually made the equity perpetual, so it never comes due.

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You could call provisions and refinance provisions in a preferred stock to make it look shorter

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duration.

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But if you want to invest the money in Bitcoin forever, then you'd like to have the money

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forever and then you match your durations and you've got an indefinite duration liability

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and an indefinite duration asset.

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And then how do you make it better?

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Well, you know, you hear a lot about private credit.

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Private credit is illiquid, unbranded, local, and difficult access.

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Public credit.

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STRC is public credit.

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It's got a ticker.

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You can buy it in London or any stock exchange.

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It's branded.

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It's got a happy name, stretch.

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It's global.

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It's easy to access.

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You can buy it on Robinhood.

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So it seems pretty clear that the difference between JPM19972 QCIP on a Bloomberg versus

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STRC is night and day for the retail investor.

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And then you've got the digital creation.

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If you want to buy a billion dollars of mortgage-backed securities at $355 in the afternoon on Thursday,

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how do you create a billion dollars worth of the loans?

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How much effort does it take to issue a billion dollars worth of commercial credit or retail

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credit or mortgage-backed credit?

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It's a lot of work.

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That's why there are 50,000 and 100,000 employees working at a bank.

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There's a lot of paperwork.

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But in this particular case, if you want to buy a billion dollars worth of digital credit

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at $355, we literally print the thing.

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And then we hedge it out that day by 8 a.m. the next morning, we have backed the billion

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dollars of credit with another billion dollars of new collateral and we're generating these

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instruments digitally in real time.

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And that's a big breakthrough, right?

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I mean, you don't see that with other forms of credit.

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And then the last big breakthrough is their rock dividends.

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And return a capital dividends.

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They've been around since 1910.

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You see them used by real estate companies, oil pipeline companies, master limited partnerships,

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REITs sometimes.

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But normally you're limited to 3, 4, 5% dividend and you're capped out by your amount of capital

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you can depreciate.

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And it's very difficult to scale those things.

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No one's ever created a 10% dividend paying preferred that was a rock dividend.

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And they definitely never figured out how to pay $100 billion of them.

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And so what's really interesting here is this treasury model which is the capital is raised,

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tax deferred, the earnings are generated, tax deferred, the dividends are paid, tax deferred,

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the entire thing is a massive flywheel.

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It's the most tax-efficient way to generate fixed income in the world.

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And I think that the profound insight we had, and really this is an aha moment over

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the past 12 weeks, is that we inadvertently created the most tax-efficient generator

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of fixed income in the world.

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Like there's no one else that's going to tell you they can pay billions of dollars a year

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where at the dividends that are all returns of capital.

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So the company is a digital credit factory.

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If you understand swaps, if you ever traded interest rate swaps or any kind of swap,

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what's going on here is we're giving credit investors a USD yield and we're swapping that

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into a BTC yield for the equity investor.

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The equity people want to outperform Bitcoin, the credit investor wants to outperform the

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money market.

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And so how do you do that?

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Scalably with no credit risk, you need to do it with a perpetual preferred equity publicly

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listed.

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Right there are other ways to create that swap, but if it's not publicly listed, you have

0:56:44

redemption risk, you have also to other scalable problems.

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And so we figured out a way to create scalable swaps.

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And we can do it in US dollars, we can do it in Euros, we can do it in any currency

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in theory.

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It just happens probably the most important ones are the top ones.

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You can quantify the value of return to capital dividends.

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If you're holding the instrument for 10 years and you're a retail investor, you get 64%

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more money if you're using rock dividends or receiving them.

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And if you're a taxpayer in California, for example, owning a money market.

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And so if we boil down the opportunities, this is a snapshot of stretchy yield versus other

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credit instruments in the US market.

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And you can see what's going on here is we're paying two and a half times as much as a money

0:57:40

market, but we're paying four times as much on a tax equivalent basis if you're a Florida

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resident.

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If you're a New York resident, it turns out that we're paying five times as much.

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If you live in New York City, it's like a bank account that yields 22%.

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If you live in San Francisco, like 21%.

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So you can see the competitor is the money market.

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The money market has one advantage.

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It's a very low volatility and it's very well distributed.

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And what we're offering is something which is just four times better if you can get over

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the risk.

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This is what stream looks like in Europe.

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They're the 10-year rate is 260 basis points.

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We're paying 12 and a half.

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The money market's pay 1.5% taxable.

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Tax equivalent yield there is nearly 20%.

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And now that's what it looks like to someone in Vienna.

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Think about that.

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A bank account that pays you 27.8% in Vienna versus what the bank actually pays, which is

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nothing.

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So this is new, but you look at it, you're like, well, what's the catch?

0:58:46

It's like, do you trust Bitcoin?

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Do you trust the issuer?

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You can see we're on an evangelical campaign.

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We need to preach the merits of digital credit.

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If you look across all those credit instruments, what you can see is they're all twice as good

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as private credit.

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They're like four times or five times as good as money markets.

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They're 10 times as good as European money markets.

0:59:17

What's the monetary revolution?

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It's why don't we give a billion people a bank account that pays 10% tax to ferd?

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It doesn't take a hundred hours to figure that out.

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And here's a snapshot of currencies in the world.

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You see, the US has actually got the highest risk free rate.

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But look at Singapore, 140 basis points.

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Japan, 50 basis points.

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So what's the travesty?

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The travesty is somebody in Japan collecting nothing on their life savings and they could

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be collecting 10%.

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That's the travesty.

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So all told when you put these together, like if what you want is enhanced exposure to

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digital capital and digital credit near an equity investor and you can handle long time

1:00:05

frames and a lot of volatility, you would buy our equity.

1:00:09

If you don't trust anybody and you want to just invest in digital capital with no counter

1:00:13

party risk just buy Bitcoin.

1:00:16

If you want a blend of both, you buy the convert.

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If you want maximum cash flows, you buy that high yield junior instrument.

1:00:25

If you want the highest seniority, you take the senior instrument.

1:00:29

And if you just want stability and you want a high yield bank account, you buy the treasury

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instrument.

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And if you don't know what you want, you want stretch.

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If you don't know what you want, this is 15 seconds.

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That's the offer.

1:00:48

That's the product.

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I have spent the last five years giving hundreds of hours of talks about Bitcoin.

1:00:56

Trust me.

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It takes a long time to get Bitcoin.

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But again, Bitcoin is the perfect product as long as you don't need to use it for four

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years.

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And this is the product for someone that needs their money back in four weeks that has

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a short attention span.

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And at this point, you know, where stretches one basis point, 1% of 1% of the treasury market

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in the US.

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So if we can be 1%, it could be 100 times as big.

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It could be a $300 billion AUM if we just get to 1% of the treasury market.

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That is the campaign.

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So with that, I want to thank you all for your time and your attention.

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I appreciate it.

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