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Michael Saylor's Strategy World 2026 Keynote: Digital Credit

Bitcoin For Corporations · 2026-02-25 · 50m · View on YouTube →

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Thanks for joining me today. Uh this

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talk is uh about everybody's favorite

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subject. I'm going to speak with you

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about how to make money. Literally how

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to make money. How to make money for

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your family, for yourself, for your

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company, for your public company, for

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your country, for everything you love.

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And specifically, I'm going to talk

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about how to make money digitally. And

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the the title of the talk is digital

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credit. But really this is this is about

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a revolution in the way we think about

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money. So let's just start with uh the

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subject of digital credit. You know what

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is digital credit? Well, digital credit

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is built on digital capital. Well,

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digital capital is Bitcoin. How do we

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create Bitcoin? Well, we we put together

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a bunch of technologies that were

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available. proof of work, public key

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cryptography, peer-to-p peer networking,

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distributed timestamping, some

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semiconductor technology.

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And of course, the fundamental question

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is what is Bitcoin? And people debate

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this at infinitum, but it just seems

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quite obvious. It is digital capital.

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What is digital capital? Well, it's it's

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economic wealth stored digitally. What

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is economic wealth stored digitally?

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It's the ability to move something of

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value somewhere else on Earth over a

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digital rail. Right? People oftentimes

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ask, well, what's the use case? What's

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the value? Well, the value is if I can

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send a billion dollars from here to

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Tokyo, that's valuable. Try taking a

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billion dollars of land out of Tokyo,

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try to take a billion dollars of gold

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out of Tokyo, try to remove a billion

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dollars worth of companies from Tokyo or

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a billion dollars of mineral or oil and

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gas rights from Tokyo. You just can't do

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it. On the other hand, you can move a

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billion dollars of Bitcoin into and out

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of Tokyo. And if you can do it, a

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computer can do it and AI can do it. And

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so it it seems very straightforward in

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the world of of digital that if

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everything we've got that's digital is

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better, whether it's digital photos or

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digital music or digital video or

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digital communications or digital

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intelligence, then when we finally have

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digital wealth, digital capital, it will

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be the basis of something that is

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extraordinary and beautiful. And Satoshi

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gave us this. Uh the truth is there's

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nothing deeply complicated about it.

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It's just putting together it's an

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engineering breakthrough. Putting

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together a bunch of techniques that were

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readily available and well known in the

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day. It was the way that it was used

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that was an extraordinary breakthrough.

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Digital credit is very similar. There's

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nothing deeply complicated about this.

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Uh what we're doing is we're taking a

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common thing, a publicly listed company,

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a public security, a capital asset,

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digital capital asset in this case, a

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preferred security, the idea of a

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monthly dividend that's variable and a

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tax treatment return of capital that's

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been around since 1910 and then a ATM

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actively managed. and you put together

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all of these components. No one of them

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is all that difficult. You pretty much

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could understand them if you're a sixth

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grader. You put all of them together and

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you create something which is much more

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than the sum of its parts. You you've

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created an extraordinary breakthrough in

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the entire world of credit. We call it

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stretch STRC.

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What is our company doing? What is

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strategy do? Our company is converting

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capital into credit. We're converting

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economic wealth into a stream of cash

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flows.

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That is the big breakthrough. You need

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an operating company in order to take uh

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a block of economic energy and turn it

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into a currency, peg it to a currency,

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strip away the risk, damp the

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volatility, extract the cash flows in

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the form of yield and compress the

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duration to now. I don't want to wait 30

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years to get rich. I just want you to

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give me money every month or every day

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forever consistently without risk.

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The former, right, is a capital

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investment. I buy a big chunk of

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Manhattan and I wait 30 years and maybe

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I get rich. The latter is a is a a bond

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or is it a money market account? So,

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this is all about conversion of capital

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into credit. And uh you might wonder,

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well, how did we discover stretch?

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Sometimes people ask us this and and

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this is the most poorly understood

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concept. Most people don't really think

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deeply about capital at the first order

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but but STRSC is at the end of a long

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journey. I often times say we got a PhD

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in leverage at strategy. Well, let's

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just start with a basic question.

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How do I raise the capital to invest? If

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I want to invest in real estate for 40

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years, where's the capital come from? If

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I want to buy gold and hold it for 40

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years, where do I get the capital? If I

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want to buy Bitcoin and hold it for 40

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years, where do I get the capital?

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Well, I'm going to tell you the easiest

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place to get the capital. And it's the

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worst place. It's an exchange. You go

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onto an exchange and you use exchange

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leverage. So, I post $100 and I do a 50x

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levered Bitcoin buy. And when you lever

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up 10 to1 on an exchange, they loan you

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$1,000 of capital against your $100.

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And when you lever up 50 to1, they loan

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you $5,000 of capital, right? Uh and of

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course, that's that's DeFi. That's

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crypto. People think this is a wonderful

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thing. If you look at my chart, you can

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see exchange leverage is one hour

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capital. If you think about if you think

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about the credit terms, the risk

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factors, the covenants on the credit and

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the optionality that you have for the

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credit when you enter into the

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relationship and you and you ask the

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question, how long do I have the use of

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this capital on a probabilistic basis?

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Well, the engineer would say that's the

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stochcastic duration of the capital.

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What is the stochcastic? The likely time

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frame I have the use of the money for.

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Well, on an exchange, you might have

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that money for an hour. If you lever up

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50 to1 and Bitcoin trades down 2%,

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you're going to get margin called. They

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force liquidate you and you get all your

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capital ripped away in an hour. So on

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one extreme is very short duration

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capital. What's the next big idea? Well,

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I do a margin loan. I borrow the money

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under reggg t and I or I do asset back

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financing. I borrow against my bitcoin

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or borrow against a stock or an asset.

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How long do you have the capital for?

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Well, when you get the margin call,

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you've got no more than a day. You might

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have four hours, but that's about one

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day capital. That's like repo financing.

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When you read the history of long-term

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capitals bankruptcy or Lehman Brothers

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bankruptcy, the reason they're

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bankrupted is they were financing a

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hundred billion or hundreds of billions

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of dollars of long-term investments with

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one day money,

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right? Okay, you invest the money for 10

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years and you have the use of the

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capital for one day and you and you

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think what could go wrong. Okay, that's

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a duration mismatch. Well, we had some

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of that. We had a silvergate loan where

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we actually borrowed from Silvergate and

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when Bitcoin crash, you have to post

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more collateral. That creates extreme

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anxiety for your equity investors. It's

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reflexive. It'll unwind your company.

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That's why it's not a great idea to do

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asset back financing. The the next idea

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is senior debt. You go and you borrow

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money from a bank or you borrow money

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via a bond that has covenants.

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Well, I've actually marked it

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stochastically as about one year money.

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And you're like, well, if it's a

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fiveyear loan, why do you think of it as

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one year of money? Well, the term is

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five years. The covenants are checked

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every quarter. You might get to the end

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of the quarter where you break the EBA

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do covenant or break a lean of some

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sort, at which point either the loan

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comes due, it accelerates, or the

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covenant prevents you from accessing the

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capital markets anymore. So, you have

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lost the ability to raise additional

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capital because you tripped over a

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covenant. That means in order to grow

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the company, you have to pay off the

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loan. So, you thought you had a five,

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you have a seven-year loan, but you have

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to pay it off in order to raise any more

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money if your EBIT DAW ever falls by 2%.

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So, it's kind of a banker trick where I

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pretend I'm giving you a seven-year

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loan, but it's really a seven-week loan

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because I know you're going to have to

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continuously refinance it. So senior

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debt is actually stochcastically much

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shorter duration than you would think.

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Junior debt is like a junk bond with no

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covenants. You've just got a big

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interest bill. And so you you've got it

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a bit longer, but it's still very

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expensive. Convertible debt uh is a bit

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longer because you've got a very low

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coupon. Maybe you've got a zero coupon

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or 1% coupon convertible debt. You can

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carry it for five or six years, but

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eventually you have to pay it back. So

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convertible debt is is a little bit

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longer duration on a probabilistic

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basis. But as you can see as we march

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through these debt capital, we find

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something better. If if you ever credit

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default, if you default on your interest

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bill, if you can't refinance or if you

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bust a covenant, you lose the capital.

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In the extreme case, the equity goes to

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zero. The company's bankrupt, right?

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That's very uh dangerous, if not toxic

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capital. When you get to equity, right,

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if you look at a senior preferred like

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STRF,

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well, you have the money for a while,

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but you've got covenants and you got

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penalties if you don't pay the dividend.

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So, it's a little bit longer. Um, but

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it's it's better than uh debt, but it's

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not as good as junior PRs. The junior

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prep doesn't have the covenant, so you

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can you've got more optionality, fewer

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covenants, longer capital. The

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convertible preps have a lower cost,

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fewer covenants, longer capital, and

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then when you get to a variable

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preferred, what's going on is the

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optionality is exploding. You're getting

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more optionality. You don't have the

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option to vary the coupon of a bond, but

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you do have the option to vary uh a

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monthly dividend. So, as the optionality

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explodes, the duration uh lengthens. And

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so, what and of course the the last form

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of capital is equity.

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I sell $10 million of equity, I have the

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money forever. Well, from a net present

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value point of view, that means I've got

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economic benefit for about the next

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hundred years before the benefit becomes

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uh third order. So, if you look at the

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table, you can see if you want to invest

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for a long period of time, you'd really

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like to use equity, but if you can't get

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the equity, what's the next best thing?

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Well, it's uh it's variable preferred

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credit. We discovered uh digital credit

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and stretch because we kept moving out

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this curve of risk and we found what we

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thought was the longest duration capital

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other than equity. Now what is digital

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credit? It's solving the investor

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dilemma. The dilemma of the investor is

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I either get double-digit returns and I

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get deferred tax treatment on equity and

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I take large volatility, large draw

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downs and I might lose my capital or I

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buy credit where I have uh principal

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protection, low volatility but I lose a

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double digit returns and I have to pay

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ordinary income tax or I have to pay

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capital gains tax every time I receive

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anything in that year. So what if you

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wanted the benefits of equity and the

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benefits of credit and you wanted to get

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rid of all the liabilities of both? What

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we did with STRC was created this

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instrument which gives doubledigit

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returns uh deferred capital gains tax

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treatment, low volatility, principal

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protection

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all at the same time, right? And and

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that's the big unlock there, right? You

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don't have to make a compromise.

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And um who's it designed for? Well, it's

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definitely designed for retail

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investors. It's also designed for

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corporations, but you can also offer it

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to institutional investor, a hybrid

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investor, or a cryptonative investor.

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So, there's lots of different uh classes

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of investors that might want this. Um,

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in the in the process of building the

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longest duration credit, we

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inadvertently discovered that all of the

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dividends for that credit are return of

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capital dividends. There are three types

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of ways to tax credit. You either tax it

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as ordinary income and you got to pay

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income tax upfront or it's taxed as

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capital gains or it's taxed as uh as a

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deferred uh return of capital. You don't

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have a tax on it.

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Well, in order to create return of

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capital, you have to have a treasury

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company that doesn't have positive

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earnings and profit that would then that

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would create a tax liability that you'd

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have to pass on to your credit

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investors. So, what we discovered was we

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could create credit where the tax

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benefits go directly to the credit

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investors instead of acrewing to the

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issuer. And because as an issuer, we

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don't actually generate taxable cash

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flows, we don't need the tax benefit.

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Most credit created by companies was

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always to the benefit of the issuer to

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the detriment of the investor. And we

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stumbled upon a new idea. What if we

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created credit which was the benefit of

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the investor? The best credit. The

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credit becomes the product, not the

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means to the product, right? Um

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well, so you create this and now the

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issue is how do I assess the digital

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credit? What's the mathematical

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framework for assessing credit risk?

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And really we created three metrics. BTC

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rating is the amount of collateral

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coverage. Like if you're BTC rated five,

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it means you got $5 of equity for every

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dollar of credit outstanding. Uh BTC

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risk is the probability that you get

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underateralized at the end of the term.

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If you have $5 today, will you have only

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$1 of collateral uh at the end of the

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term of the credit? You know, to pay it

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back if you had to pay it back. And then

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if you calculate that BTC risk, you can

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back into a credit spread. What is the

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fair credit spread above the risk-free

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rate that you have to pay the investor

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to offset the risk? Right? So there are

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simple formulas here for people that

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like formulas, but maybe the bigger

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point is the credit spread of investment

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grade bonds today is 78 basis points.

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That means you're getting paid 34 of 1%

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more than the risk-free rate in order to

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take the credit risk of a company like

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Apple or Microsoft. The credit spread of

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junk bonds or high yield, I guess, is

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288 basis points. So those are the two

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benchmarks worth looking at. And now we

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move to the theory of asset back credit.

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What is it? Well, the idea is I buy a

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capital asset that's going to return 30%

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and I strip off the first 11% and I pay

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it to the credit investors. Maybe I buy

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the S&P index, I expect to pay 12%, I

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strip off the first six and I pay it to

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the credit investors. If gold is going

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to appreciate 10% a year, I could create

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a preferred instrument that pays 5% a

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year and pay that to the credit

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investors. So, and you know, logic says

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you're not going to pay a dividend

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greater than the return of the capital

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asset over a 100 years. that you're

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going to eventually run out of

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collateral, but you can certainly pay uh

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a dividend rate lower than the ARR of

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the capital asset. And that takes us to

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the question of what's really going on

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here? The signal processing. Okay,

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digital capital is highly volatile,

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growing in a in a a rate. If you look at

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that chart, that that uh orange line

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kind of looks like the Bitcoin price

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chart if you've looked at it over the

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past 10 years. It's doing this.

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The credit line is what is what most

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people want. People don't want to get

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rich

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suddenly in the distant future,

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unexpectedly after a roller coaster

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ride. What they want is to get risk

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steadily

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with with very very low volatility, no

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anxiety. They don't want the fighter

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jet. They want the uh the jumbo jet

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airliner. and they want to recline in

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first class while they go to their

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destination.

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So digital credit is just stripping out

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that smooth 11% out of that very

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volatile 30%.

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Now where does the excess volatility go?

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There's a conservation of energy

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conservation of volatility. So if you

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want to if you want to take a 30% roller

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coaster ride and strip it down to 11%

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jumbo jet luxury ride then you have to

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put the volatility somewhere else. So

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what you can see is the excess

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volatility goes to common equity and

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what I've just shown you is basically

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digital equity digital capital digital

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credit is clearly digital stack. It's

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changing every 15 seconds. In our case

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the equity is MSTR.

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It's up 52% ARR. The capital is Bitcoin.

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We expect to be up 30%. The credit is

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the STRC.

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Now, what's the highest yield you can

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pay on digital credit? Well, if you

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expected 30% then and then you have to

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plug in the collateral coverage. What's

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the BTC rating? What's the duration?

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What's the volatility? Once you plug in

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your assumptions, what pops out is,

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well, in this case, I can pay 15% and

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still stay investment grade on that

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assumption set. You go up to 23% and

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you're still in high yield. But there is

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an envelope of dividends you can pay out

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or a dividend ratio you can pay out.

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That's just a function of the volatility

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and the performance of the underlying

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capital asset.

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So, what's this chart show? So this

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chart shows if you're a skeptic and you

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think Bitcoin's going up zero, there's a

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very small amount of credit you can

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create and uh most of it is is low

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dividend yielding and you know a little

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bit of it is 5 to 10% and a very small

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amount is more than 10%. If you think

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Bitcoin's going up 10% a year like the

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S&P, you see you can issue a lot more

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credit and you can have a bit more

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flexibility on the dividends. As your

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view of the capital asset, whether it's

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gold or Bitcoin or real estate or the

19:06

S&P or whatever, as your view of that

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improves, as it as you think it's going

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to improve over time, your ability to

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issue credit and higher yielding credit

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is enhanced. And you can see what's

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going on here. When if you're a bull and

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you think Bitcoin's going up 30% a year,

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you can see you can issue quite a lot of

19:25

high yielding credit that is investment

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grade. That's the big the big idea here.

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If you're staring at this and of course

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if you think about high yield, right,

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you're willing to accept a a slightly

19:38

higher risk instrument, then you can

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create a lot more credit. You can create

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exceptional amounts of credit if you

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think it Bitcoin is going to appreciate

19:48

faster than the S&P. And of course, if

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you're a Bitcoin bull, you can see you

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can issue monstrous amounts of credit,

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even 1x collateralized

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at this level, right? And so the amount

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of credit you can create is really a

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function of those variables. Now, so how

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risky is STRC? What is stretch?

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Well, I put it on the chart. If you're a

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Bitcoin skeptic and you think Bitcoin's

20:14

going up zero, it looks like distress

20:16

debt. If you think Bitcoin's, you know,

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a 10% grower, it's almost high yield.

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It's like it's kind of suboptimal high

20:24

yield. But then as you start to have a a

20:26

better view of Bitcoin, it starts to

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float into the high yield. And then of

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course, if you're a Bitcoin bull, it's

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investment grade.

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And so the what I've laid out here, we

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call the theory of digital credit, but

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really it's just a theory of asset back

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credit. You could do the same exercise

20:41

with the S&P index, MAG7 stocks, you

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know, uh, Nvidia stock, gold, real

20:48

estate.

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Now, why haven't people? Well, because

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the Investment Company Act of 1940

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prevents you from, uh, levering or

20:56

capitalizing a publicly traded company

20:58

on equity, portfolio, or securities. So,

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no one does this in the public market on

21:02

securities. you'd have to go to gold or

21:05

real estate. And the performance in gold

21:06

and real estate has just been not

21:08

compelling enough to be worth the

21:09

trouble. Bitcoin is the first time when

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you have a nonsecurity asset which is

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outperforming the S&P where it's worth

21:16

the trouble. And that takes us to the

21:18

question of, well, what's the

21:19

performance of this stuff anyway?

21:23

Well, since the all-time high four and a

21:25

half months ago, Bitcoin's fallen 45%.

21:27

That's the capital investment. If you're

21:30

a capital investor, you got no dividends

21:32

and you lost 45% of your wealth. Just

21:35

wait for 10 years. You'll be fine.

21:39

I'm okay with it, but your

21:41

three-year-old's not okay with it. On

21:43

the other hand, look at STRC, right?

21:46

STRC is for everybody else. It's it's

21:49

actually lost 0% of its value. It's paid

21:52

4.5% in dividends through a a a very bad

21:58

big capital market draw down since the

22:02

beginning of the year. Same story. STRC

22:06

holds its value and pays a dividend.

22:08

Bitcoin's down 25%.

22:11

Do people want this stuff? Well, it's

22:14

trading 130x more uh liquid than the

22:17

average preferred stock and 1,000 times

22:20

more liquid than the over-the-counter

22:22

preferred. This is in fact the most

22:25

successful, most liquid preferred stock

22:27

probably in the entire century.

22:30

Okay? And this is six months old, right?

22:33

And I would love to tell you we knew

22:34

what we were doing, but what I what I

22:36

just showed you was we were running from

22:39

risk, from credit risk until we got to

22:41

press. And then we were chasing after

22:43

the ideal product until we got to

22:45

stretch. And so at the end of our

22:47

journey after trying 10 different

22:49

things, we found the 11th thing. And

22:51

then the market told us they like this.

22:53

We didn't know we like that they'd like

22:55

this. Stretches seasoning. The health

22:58

keeps improving. Here, what you can see

23:00

is that each month that goes by, it

23:02

spends more and more time in its target

23:04

range. The volatility strips off. It

23:06

holds its principal value much higher.

23:09

And so, what are we competing against

23:11

here? You're competing against a

23:13

multi-trillion dollar universe of credit

23:16

instruments. Most of them yield three,

23:18

four%.

23:20

Most of them have long duration. The

23:23

world of credit hasn't changed much in

23:26

50 years. You're trapped in the 20th

23:28

century. Most credit instruments are

23:30

created by issuers whose objective is to

23:33

pay you the least amount they can with

23:35

the worst tax treatment. Right? When a

23:39

conventional credit issuer issues

23:40

credit, they're keeping the tax benefit

23:42

to themsel, they're minimizing what they

23:44

pay you. And the irony is when it's over

23:47

the counter, it's illegal for you to buy

23:48

it. Huh? Say that again. Most credit

23:53

it's manufactured to be awful,

23:56

very tax inefficient, and it's illegal

23:59

for you to buy it. Well, why does that

24:01

even happen? That's just the way the

24:02

world was 30, 40, 50 years ago. What

24:06

we've done is flipped it on its head and

24:09

our view is, well, we actually want to

24:10

pay you the highest possible dividend,

24:12

make it tax deferred, and make it easy

24:16

for you to buy it. Right? That is the

24:18

credit revolution.

24:20

So why do you have to wait 10 years to

24:22

find out if you get paid back? I strip

24:23

the duration down to a much shorter

24:26

amount. Uh increase the dividend and

24:29

then make it easy for the individual. So

24:32

what what's the tax equivalent yield on

24:35

this? If you're a a company,

24:39

well, let's just start with the the

24:40

number. It's 11.3%. And if you're a

24:42

company, that's the same as uh getting

24:45

paid 14.3% because you don't have to pay

24:49

corporate income tax on this. If you're

24:51

an individual in Miami and you are able

24:54

to defer the 37% federal income tax

24:57

rate, it's like a tax equivalent yield

24:58

of almost 18%.

25:01

How's it compared to everything else?

25:03

Well, you can see it's it's anywhere

25:05

from 50% to four times better than all

25:08

the other credit in the world, right?

25:11

The the next best thing is like private

25:13

credit which is sort of illquid and it's

25:16

half as good for a taxpayer and it's uh

25:19

60% as good for a non- taxpayer just on

25:22

the basis of yield.

25:25

What if you're lucky enough to be an

25:26

individual living in New York City?

25:29

Okay, digital credit is like a bank that

25:31

pays you 23.3%.

25:36

If you live in San Francisco, it's like

25:36

a bank account that pays you 22.6%.

25:40

Okay. So, as you can see, this is uh you

25:44

know, four, five times better.

25:52

Okay. What else did we discover? Well,

25:52

when you create an instrument like this,

25:54

it's return of capital. It means that

25:56

you collect a dividend, you uh you defer

25:59

the tax on the dividend, you reduce your

26:01

basis in the instrument, and after 10

26:03

years, you've reduced your basis from

26:05

$100 down to zero.

26:07

If then you die and pass this on to your

26:10

heir, they get a step up in the basis

26:11

and it steps up to $100 and they can

26:13

start the same depreciation again. So

26:16

you actually get the benefit of

26:18

shielding your 10 years of dividends and

26:21

then your heir gets to shield another 10

26:23

years of dividends.

26:26

Now, now I'm not suggesting that you run

26:28

this on 10-year cycles,

26:35

but what I am suggesting more to the

26:35

point is the difference between

26:38

investing $100 in a T bill and holding

26:42

it 20 years versus investing $100 in

26:44

stretch and giving it to your heir and

26:46

them holding it 20 years is at the end

26:48

of the 20 years, your heir has $922 of

26:51

stretch and their income each year is

26:54

100 bucks.

26:55

versus $3.75.

26:58

You literally have 25 times as much

27:02

income after 20 years. If you're

27:04

interested in generational wealth

27:06

transfer, this is an incredibly powerful

27:09

vehicle, right? It's like it's so

27:11

powerful it kind of makes you sick to

27:13

think you might pursue the alternative.

27:16

And if you're a company, you can see

27:18

that you know your choices collect 3.6%

27:21

6% from a money market or the equivalent

27:25

of a digital bank that pays you 17% in

27:27

New York City. So, you know, who are who

27:31

are the real disadvantaged players in

27:33

the credit market? It's the individuals

27:34

that pay their taxes and operating

27:37

companies because your nonprofits, your

27:39

endowments, your insurance companies,

27:41

they just don't pay tax. The government

27:43

doesn't pay tax. So, if you actually

27:45

work for a living or your company works

27:47

for a living and does stuff, you're the

27:49

one that benefits from this kind of

27:51

instrument

27:53

and and uh you know, we've we've gone

27:56

around the world talking to companies

27:57

about buying Bitcoin. Well, what I've

28:01

concluded is that Bitcoin for

28:02

corporations is stretch. Like if you go

28:05

to most companies with hundreds of

28:07

millions of dollars of capital and

28:09

working capital, it's probably easier

28:12

for them and better for them to buy

28:14

stretch than it is to buy Bitcoin. It's

28:16

very difficult for them to convince the

28:18

board of directors that they should buy

28:19

a 40 asset that with no cash flows that

28:22

they have to mark to market every

28:24

quarter because it might screw with

28:26

their P&L. But on the other hand,

28:28

convincing the board of directors that

28:30

they should actually collect two or four

28:32

times more cash flow and not have

28:35

volatility, that's easier. It's like

28:38

instead of you taking a hundred million

28:40

and buying Bitcoin and getting on the

28:42

roller coaster, just give me the hundred

28:44

million. I will accept all the risk. I

28:46

will accept the roller coaster. I'll

28:48

overcolateralize it. I will give you the

28:51

10 or 11% uh yield back. I'll solve the

28:54

tax problem. and I promise not to sell

28:57

the Bitcoin and and so we're in the

28:59

business of not selling Bitcoin. We got

29:01

very good at it. We have a PhD in

29:04

hodling, you know, and so I figure why

29:08

don't we just hodddle for the thousands

29:10

of companies instead of try to convince

29:12

everybody else to do what we're doing

29:14

and convince their shareholders and

29:15

their board of directors.

29:18

So then you see this this chart, right?

29:20

And what is this saying?

29:22

Look, if your time horizon is less than

29:24

four years, you need the money in 12

29:26

months, you need the money in 24 months,

29:27

you need the money in six months, you

29:29

need the money to make payroll, that's

29:30

working capital, you put that into a

29:33

credit instrument like Stretch. If you

29:35

don't need the money for four years, if

29:37

you if you don't if you're a cap

29:39

investor and you've got a 10 year or 20

29:40

year time horizon and you just want to

29:42

get wealthy, well then you either buy

29:45

digital capital, which is Bitcoin,

29:46

because there's no counterparty risk and

29:48

that has the most optionality, or you

29:51

buy digital equity, amplified Bitcoin

29:53

like MSTR, because there you're getting

29:56

more Bitcoin.

29:58

But you have to have a long time

30:01

horizon. Four years is the minimum in my

30:03

opinion. 10 years is a healthy or seven

30:06

to 10 years is the right time horizon

30:07

for that. And of course what you see

30:10

which is not disputable is there's not a

30:12

person in the world or company on earth

30:14

that doesn't have capital they need in

30:16

the next four years. There's a huge

30:18

amount of capital that's tied up in

30:21

making payroll or paying the annual

30:23

bonus to the sales people at the end of

30:25

December. It's like I've got it sitting

30:27

on the balance sheet. I'm I'm generating

30:30

2% after tax,

30:34

but maybe I'd like to get 10% untaxed,

30:38

right? Maybe I'd like five times as

30:40

much.

30:41

And so what's the impact of actually

30:43

allocating a corporate treasury to

30:45

stretch? Well, you can see here if you

30:49

put 35% of your treasury into STRC, you

30:52

double your cash flow. It doubles the

30:55

cash flow of a company to put 35% in. If

30:58

you're a public company, you probably

31:00

don't want to go above 40%. But if

31:02

you're a closely held private company,

31:04

you could go to 60 70 80%. The

31:08

difference between holding T bills and

31:10

holding stretch is 2.9 million versus

31:13

11.3 million a year. Right? It's like

31:17

it's not quite it's almost four times as

31:20

much cash flow.

31:22

And what about the rest? Well, look,

31:26

I was saying to a company, a company is

31:28

in the Bitcoin space. I said, you know,

31:30

you're in the Bitcoin space. If Bitcoin

31:31

goes to zero, you don't have much of a

31:34

business. So, that being the case,

31:36

you've already absorbed the existential

31:38

risk of Bitcoin going to zero. So rather

31:41

than collect 2.9 million a year, why

31:44

don't you collect 11 million a year,

31:47

right? You might as well make four times

31:48

your money. You've already accepted the

31:50

Bitcoin existential risk. So for people

31:52

that believe in digital capital and

31:54

digital assets, it's a no-brainer. Just

31:56

quadruple your treasury or or double

31:58

your treasury yield.

32:01

That takes me to the issue of digital

32:03

money and digital yield. So I I told you

32:05

I'd show you how to make money. Okay?

32:07

I'm not saying just buy stretch as an

32:10

individual or your company should buy

32:11

stretch. Those are the two obvious ways

32:13

to make money. But what we've observed

32:17

is you can take digital credit and you

32:19

can use it as the building block for

32:22

digital yield and digital money. You can

32:24

step it up or step it down. It's like

32:26

sucralose. It's a universal sweetener,

32:29

right? It is the active element of money

32:31

making. So we're we've got a product

32:35

which is 11% with like a 10 to 20. You

32:39

can cut it in half and you can create uh

32:42

an instrument that pays 7 and a half%

32:44

with much lower or you can double it or

32:47

triple it, amp it up in order to create

32:49

something that pays 18% or 24%.

32:53

Okay, so I can dial it up and down. But

32:56

let's take this idea a bit further.

33:03

Stretches digital credit. Digital money

33:03

I would define as zero volatility daily

33:07

liquidity instruments. If you give

33:09

someone zero vol and liquidity every

33:11

day, you've created high-powered money.

33:14

Digital yield

33:16

is non zero volatility or illquid.

33:19

There's nothing that says you can't lock

33:20

up the money for three months, lever it

33:23

two to one,

33:25

right? And and maybe strip the ball or

33:28

leave the volatility, right? You can do

33:30

that as well, but I wouldn't call it

33:31

money. Now we call it yield.

33:35

Now the big idea is digital credit is

33:38

programmable. And most people think

33:40

programmable means like oh yeah I want

33:42

to like do something computery with it.

33:44

No, I've got a much bigger idea for you.

33:46

Programmable means I take the credit and

33:48

I create it. I turn it into a token, a

33:51

private fund, a public fund, an ETF, an

33:53

ETP. I make it a bank account. I make it

33:56

a crypto account. So I turn into a type

33:58

of u of uh credit. Then I put it on a

34:04

platform the NASDAQ, the the London

34:07

Stock Exchange, Salana, Ethereum,

34:10

Binance, Coinbase base. I can I can I

34:14

put it on Aladdin. I put it on a

34:16

Fidelity mutual fund system. I offer it

34:19

through Morgan Stanley or JP Morgan's

34:21

private wealth, you know, system or the

34:23

Maril Lynch system. There are a lot of

34:25

different platforms I can put that on.

34:28

Then I decide how much volatility I

34:31

want. Turn it down to zero, turn it up

34:34

to 25. You can strip the ball by

34:36

creating a volatility buffer or a

34:39

volatile reserve or you can leave the

34:41

ball or amp the ball. That's a decision,

34:43

right? You make then liquidity, right?

34:46

You can offer people uh you can offer

34:49

people hourly liquidity. You can even

34:51

turn the yield into streaming yield.

34:53

stream the yield every hour, every day,

34:56

every week, right? So, or you can turn

34:59

it into a hey, it's a one, it's a a

35:02

private fund. It's a seven-year duration

35:05

and we'll give you the ability to act to

35:07

extract 10% of your capital every

35:09

quarter, right? You can create liquidity

35:11

or staking time. You can stake it, by

35:13

the way. You know, if you think about

35:15

the DeFi idea, you can stake this for 30

35:17

days, stake it for a year, you can lock

35:19

it up, you can unlock it, and then you

35:22

decide how much yield you want. I mean,

35:24

probably you're not going to crank it

35:25

down to less than five or 4% yield.

35:27

Although,

35:29

you know,

35:32

the guys at Hope, you know, they said,

35:33

well, you know, if we just take uh

35:35

European money markets and we and we add

35:37

10% stretch, we go from a money market

35:40

that pays 200 basis points in euros to

35:43

300 basis points in euros.

35:45

10% makes it 50% better in Europe,

35:49

right? So you could actually create

35:51

something which is a world beater right

35:54

even with a small increments like how

35:57

much sucralose do I have to put you know

36:00

sugar or whatever how much do I put in

36:01

the food or salt to actually make it

36:03

taste good um so you can crank the yield

36:07

up to 30% you can crank it down to 3%

36:10

you can convert the currency to yen and

36:12

euros

36:14

these are all opportunities to add value

36:17

and then once you've done it All right.

36:19

Then is it a fund? Is it a coin? Is it

36:21

an account?

36:23

How about your bank just pays 8% to

36:26

everybody taxfree? Right. I mean, what

36:28

was the big idea? Just wire me a hundred

36:30

billion dollars. I pay 8% instead of,

36:32

you know, JP Morgan pays 2% after tax.

36:36

Well, what well are you going to do

36:37

anything else? No.

36:40

Just that

36:42

like it's like my message to the

36:43

Emiratis is like you know the UAE has

36:46

a$250

36:47

300 billion dollar a year gross national

36:50

product why don't you just have you know

36:52

banks in the Emirates pay 8% people will

36:56

wire you 10 trillion dollars take 100

36:58

basis points of that and now you just

37:01

increase the gross national product by

37:03

50% with 12 people.

37:07

Well what are we going to do? we're just

37:09

gonna collect their money

37:11

and it's not it's like too simple,

37:14

right?

37:16

But oftentimes what you'll find is

37:18

people will go jump through hoops when

37:19

and juggle chainsaws and feel like

37:21

they're making progress, but when you

37:23

give them the simple idea, it's like too

37:25

good to be true. Like they're afraid to

37:27

do the simple thing. Yeah, we just we'll

37:29

just offer the bank account that pays

37:31

you 8%.

37:34

So with that, the digital credit

37:35

ecosystem, it is emerging, right?

37:39

Layer one, we can't take credit for.

37:41

That's Bitcoin. Layer two, we're in the

37:44

business of creating that credit

37:46

instrument, right? What are we going to

37:48

do at at our company? Well, we're just

37:50

going to build the AUM of stretch as

37:51

high as we can. Build the liquidity as

37:53

high as we can. Laser-like focus until

37:56

people have a billion dollars a day

37:58

liquidity, $2 billion a day liquidity,

38:00

$5 billion a day liquidity. Strip the

38:02

ball as low as we can. But we're never

38:05

going to be able to offer pure digital

38:07

money or digital yield in every possible

38:09

flavor or package on every platform. Nor

38:12

do we want to. So the layer three is

38:14

that digital money, digital yield layer,

38:16

and we're already seeing an exploding

38:18

ecosystem of partners, Buck, Saturn,

38:22

Apex,

38:23

uh, Hope. It's very exciting. If you've

38:26

got a Bitcoin treasury company, you got

38:28

$500 million, and you know, you're

38:30

trying to figure out what do you do

38:31

next? create an ETF,

38:33

you know, upgrade and wrap stretch with

38:36

it and then be and get the license to be

38:38

the first the first company in your

38:41

market to be able to offer this digital

38:43

monetary or digital digital yield

38:45

instrument, right? It's a license to

38:47

print money. How do you make money?

38:50

Well, you know, offer five, six% digital

38:53

money in Japan to everybody and take a

38:55

100 basis points off it. And that leaves

38:58

me with um you know the result of all

39:02

this. If you go about the process of

39:04

creating digital credit then you create

39:07

value for the digital equity. So MSTR is

39:11

digital equity. You can see for the past

39:14

five and a half years what's going on,

39:16

right? Bitcoin is outperforming the S&P

39:19

and gold. MSTR has amplified Bitcoin. If

39:23

you can sign up for the V, you can

39:25

actually get the reward. Now,

39:28

amplification creates volatility. How

39:30

much? This is the top 10 company, the

39:33

most volatile companies in the S&P 500.

39:36

I'm showing the top 10 to you, right?

39:39

We're number three, right? There are two

39:41

companies in the S&P that are more

39:43

volatile. But here's a more important

39:44

chart.

39:46

What you're seeing there is the the

39:49

absolute open interest where we don't

39:51

have the highest open interest, but

39:53

we're one in the top 15, but what we are

39:55

is the number one open interest market

39:59

cap adjusted. So, in terms of the

40:02

relationship of open interest to the

40:04

underlying market cap, we are the most

40:07

intensely interesting company in the S&P

40:09

universe.

40:12

And and if you look at the lot the

40:13

bottom chart that's showing trading

40:16

volume liquidity and what you can see is

40:18

we're the most liquid equity in the

40:21

entire S&P universe.

40:24

Okay. So that so did we actually spend

40:26

money to get that? No. We didn't spend a

40:28

dime. We'd spent no money to become the

40:31

most liquid, most interesting company in

40:34

the entire S&P 500 universe. That is the

40:37

result of creating digital credit on

40:40

digital capital,

40:43

right? And and

40:45

you know what is the uh what is the use

40:47

of the capital? The use of the capital

40:49

is to create the credit. What's the

40:50

credit do? The credit creates

40:52

amplification. The amplification creates

40:55

Bitcoin per share. The Bitcoin per share

40:58

creates the equity premium. It is the

41:00

function of the company. And if you turn

41:03

up that amplification, you can double

41:06

the Bitcoin per share over seven years.

41:09

You might triple it over seven years. So

41:11

if you're the equity investor, you're

41:14

buying a company that generates Bitcoin

41:16

per share. If you're the credit

41:18

investor, you're you're buying a credit

41:20

instrument to pay US dollar yield. But

41:24

it's just a very simple swap of Bitcoin

41:26

yield for US dollar yield. You can't

41:29

have the one without the other.

41:33

But as you can see here, this is a very

41:36

powerful model. And um the way it works

41:40

out is once you crank up the

41:42

amplification,

41:43

you can expect to outperform the Bitcoin

41:46

by anywhere from 30% to 100% or more

41:52

and have a heck of a good time while

41:54

you're doing it. It's definitely very

41:57

interesting.

41:58

Uh for those of you interested in the

42:00

relationship of amplification to growth

42:02

rate, here it is. It's not very

42:04

complicated.

42:05

And um

42:08

on the subject of digital, it's all

42:11

recorded. You can download that and you

42:15

you can screenshot that and study it.

42:19

CJ will probably do one hour podcast on

42:22

that formula. You know, ask him. Um

42:26

the big idea of digital is every 15

42:30

seconds we're creating value. Okay.

42:34

In 15 seconds we might sell $10 million

42:36

of credit, buy $10 million of Bitcoin,

42:39

increase our capital by $10 million.

42:41

Loop, rinse and repeat. We are

42:44

synchronizing the capital and the

42:45

credit. How do you build a $10 million

42:48

building in 15 seconds? Right? We're

42:51

doing it without people. We're doing it

42:54

without labor. There's no tractors.

42:56

There's no bulldozers. There's no land.

42:58

There's no expensive long form

43:00

contracts, right? You don't have all of

43:02

the friction of the world, right? The

43:06

the reason that digital equity is so

43:08

compelling is because you're creating

43:11

digital property, digital capital, and

43:14

digital credit instantly in a

43:17

synchronized way, frictionfree

43:20

in cyerspace, in digital space, in

43:23

financial space, if you will. And that

43:26

makes it the most transparent, most

43:29

efficient, most compelling type of

43:31

credit. And so what are you going to do

43:33

if you look if I could snap my fingers

43:35

and I could build a digital building in

43:37

one second? Don't you think I would

43:39

probably sell it to you cheaper than the

43:42

guy that took a billion dollars to

43:44

create an actual building in 10 years?

43:47

If I can do this, I can I can give you a

43:49

better deal. So what are we doing? Well,

43:52

we're just making sure the credit's

43:53

twice as good or four times as good. We

43:57

can pay four times as much because we

44:00

have the most efficient credit generator

44:02

in the world.

44:04

And uh I will just end with this thought

44:06

of the reflexive flywheel. It's not not

44:10

complicated but it's the credit creates

44:12

the amplification.

44:14

The amplification from the credit

44:16

creates the volatility.

44:19

That's what creates the open interest in

44:21

the options market.

44:24

All of that creates enterprise value.

44:26

You're doing something. You're

44:27

accumulating capital. And the capital

44:29

increases the size of the enterprise.

44:31

The capital we're gathering is going

44:33

into Bitcoin, creating capital

44:35

appreciation. We're appreciating the

44:36

value of the Bitcoin network. You can't

44:39

buy $55 billion of Bitcoin without the

44:41

value of Bitcoin being higher than if

44:43

you didn't buy the 55 billion. We're

44:45

also putting capital appreciation on our

44:47

own balance sheet.

44:50

The credit creates the equity premium.

44:53

How are you not a Bitcoin holding

44:54

company? Well, we're doubling our

44:55

Bitcoin per share. Well, if you double

44:57

your Bitcoin per share, I'll give you

44:59

100% premium, right? If I'm an equity

45:01

investor, I have to have something to

45:03

believe in. You're doing something. The

45:06

credit business creates the equity

45:08

premium. The equity premium

45:11

attracts more capital.

45:14

The credit thereby attracts new investor

45:16

base. You get credit investors. You get

45:18

you get retirees, you know, and

45:21

corporate treasurers. They wouldn't have

45:22

bought Bitcoin. new investors that

45:25

diversifies all the macro correlations.

45:28

The business is going to trade verse on

45:30

the junk bond index or the investment

45:32

grade index or the forward yield curve

45:34

or the euro versus US dollar index or

45:37

the relationship of Bitcoin to gold or

45:40

or uh people's view forward view toward

45:43

Bitcoin or their view toward big tech or

45:46

macro or something or maybe they just

45:48

get excited about the future of digital

45:50

credit. You've got a lot of different

45:52

correlations.

45:54

Each of those attracts new pools of

45:55

equity.

45:58

That's all of those things strengthen

46:00

the brand. Everybody wants to talk about

46:02

you. The brand is who wants to talk

46:04

about you. So you're you're continually

46:06

building awareness

46:09

and that creates optionality, right? We

46:11

have the option to sell the credit, not

46:13

sell the credit, raise the dividend,

46:15

lower the dividend, right? uh more the

46:18

more optionality creates more

46:20

volatility, creates more equity premium

46:24

and that creates trading because people

46:26

disagree with you. It's like I think

46:28

it's a bad idea. I think it's a good

46:29

idea. I'm going to short it. It's too

46:31

cheap. It's too expensive. Well, I don't

46:34

mind if people if people short $50

46:37

billion of the instrument, they got to

46:38

buy $50 billion of the instrument back

46:40

at some point. That's creating the

46:43

liquidity that creates credit. In this

46:46

particular case, the credit attracts

46:48

credit. And what I mean by that is

46:50

people are more likely to offer you

46:51

loans against the stretch or against the

46:54

MSTR

46:55

because of the liquidity in the

46:57

instruments and that attracts more

46:59

capital. All of that brings arbitrageers

47:03

who think that someone mispriced

47:05

something and they want to sell that to

47:06

buy that and hold that and then get rid

47:08

of that.

47:12

every guy with a Bloomberg that thinks

47:13

he's smarter than you are,

47:16

and maybe he is and maybe he isn't, but

47:18

it doesn't matter, right? I mean,

47:20

because they're bringing capital to the

47:21

party. The entire thing is just a

47:24

massive reflexive flywheel because the

47:27

more stretch we sell, the more Bitcoin

47:29

goes up in price. The more stretch we

47:32

sell, the more MSTR capital grows. the

47:35

as capital and MSTR grows, liquidity

47:37

grows, we raise more equity capital, the

47:39

Bitcoin price goes up. So, we're driving

47:42

MSTR, driving Bitcoin, driving Stretch,

47:46

and of course, soon to be driving this

47:48

entire ecosystem of digital money and

47:50

digital yield. Everybody that's uh

47:53

upstream to us lever to Bitcoin is in

47:56

the ecosystem. Everybody downstream to

47:59

us lever to stretch is in the ecosystem.

48:03

Who are we competing with? None of those

48:05

people. We're competing with

48:07

undercolateralized junk bond issuers

48:10

that are going out of business in six

48:11

months that are offering you 5% yield

48:14

and somebody's buying that garbage,

48:17

right? And so, yeah, at some point

48:20

really distressed credit issuers or a

48:23

liquid private credit, they will find it

48:25

harder. Look now, nobody's gonna stop

48:28

buying tea bills because of this stuff.

48:29

You don't got to worry about that. We're

48:31

not competing with the US government.

48:32

We're competing with the marginal

48:34

borrowers issuing illquid, lowy

48:38

yielding, tax inefficient junk bonds,

48:41

high yield bonds, private credit, and

48:43

other types of garbagey credit

48:45

instruments. A and then the ones that

48:47

sell things over the counter that you

48:49

can't legally buy. And we're actually

48:51

making it available to you. So, who

48:54

wins? The world wins. The digital asset

48:57

economy wins. Everybody wins. And uh how

49:00

big is the market? Well, there's $300

49:02

trillion of garbagey credit right now

49:06

and it's probably going to double over

49:07

the next 10 years. So if you can get 5%

49:10

or 10% of it, there's a 5060 trillion

49:13

dollar opportunity.

49:15

What do we need? Uh we need you. We need

49:19

you to go tell tell people that this is

49:23

an opportunity for the CFO or the

49:25

treasurer. Tell them, tell you know your

49:28

retired dad that maybe this is an

49:30

opportunity to put in the retirement

49:31

account. Talk to your credit investors.

49:34

Talk to digital assets investors. If you

49:37

run a business, think about getting rich

49:39

off of this. Create, you know, get the

49:41

first license to sell digital money in

49:43

Poland or the UK or France or the UAE or

49:47

Japan or Brazil, you know, or put it on

49:50

a crypto network or put it in an ETF,

49:54

right? Uh

49:56

what is the thing that everybody in the

49:57

human race wants more of?

50:00

Money.

50:02

It's the universal utilitarian product.

50:05

Everybody wants more money. So I

50:08

admonish all of you to go out and make

50:10

some money. Either make it for yourself

50:12

or make it for your customers or make it

50:14

for your friends and family. And do it

50:17

because it's the right thing to do and

50:19

it could never be done before.

50:22

and uh 30 years from now everybody will

50:25

have been have already done it. Thank

50:28

you for your time today and for your

50:30

support.

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