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Strategy's Stretch STRC Perpetual Preferred Stock IPO Backed by Bitcoin | Michael Saylor & Phong Le

Strategy · 2025-07-21 · 28m · View on YouTube →

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Hello. Thank you all for joining us

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today. I'm here with our founder and

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executive chairman, Michael Sailor. I'm

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Fong Lee, president and CEO of Strategy.

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And I'm excited to share with you our

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latest perpetual preferred offering,

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STRC, also referred to as stretch. I

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like to start with our disclaimer, and I

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suggest you all read this uh in detail

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at your leisure. And let me go through

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the term sheet at a high level. Uh

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Michael will go through a lot of these

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terms and the strategy of stretch in

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more detail later. Uh I'll start with

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it. This is our fourth and latest uh

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security that is perpetual and preferred

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in nature. Uh and in terms of seniority,

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uh stretch is senior to stride and

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strike and MSTR common stock and it will

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be junior to our other debt including

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our convertible notes and also junior to

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strife. The stated amount of stretch is

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$100 per share. And what's unique about

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stretch is our intention is to maintain

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a trading level for stretch that's near

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a stated amount. We have a few

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mechanisms to try to uh create this

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outcome. First of all is a variable

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dividend rate which is unique and

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different than the dividend rate which

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has been fixed on our other perpetual

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preferred securities. The second is an

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ATM which we uh intend to issue uh in

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short order and we'll use that ATM also

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uh to uh help us maintain uh the price

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at the stated amount. And the third is a

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a unique call option uh that we also

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will describe later and Mike will go

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through.

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So let me go through a performance

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review of strategy uh and a company uh

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to date and I'll start with uh a chart

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that some of you have seen many times

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and one that we're quite proud of which

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is the annualized asset performance of

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strategy since the Bitcoin standard era

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which started on August 10th of 2020. On

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an annualized basis, you've seen our

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return is here is about 104%

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uh which is nearly twice that of Bitcoin

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at 59% and nearly four times that of the

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MAG 7 at 27%. Uh and if you look at the

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total returns during that same period of

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time, we are uh have returned 3,324%

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in nearly a 5-year period.

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If you look at the last 12 months,

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you'll see similarly remarkable returns.

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72% for OSTR compared to 85% for

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Bitcoin, 36% for gold, and 23% for the

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MAG7.

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In the second quarter of uh 2025,

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we saw an addition of $21 billion

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digital asset value. About 14 billion of

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dollars of that is uh via an unrealized

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fair market gain uh on our existing

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Bitcoin. and additionally in Bitcoin

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that we acquired during the second

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quarter and $6.8 billion of Bitcoin that

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was acquired during the second quarter.

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Uh so we've really uh added tremendous

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value to our balance sheet uh during

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this period of time in the second

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quarter uh increasing it uh by nearly

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50%.

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If you look at the performance of

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Bitcoin and as a result MSTR's balance

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sheet uh and digital asset value since

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the second quarter in a very short

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period of time uh really just about 20

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days or so you'll see that we have added

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an additional $7 billion additional

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asset value $5.7 billion or so because

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of the appreciation in Bitcoin price uh

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going to all-time highs uh that we've

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seen and $1.2 2 billion of additional

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Bitcoin that's been purchased today.

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And the result of this is a balance

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sheet that is now in the top 10 uh in

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the US companies uh excluding financial

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services companies. Uh we well exceeded

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the balance sheet of of tremendous

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companies like Nvidia and we're honing

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in on some of the mag seven companies

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like Meta, Apple, Microsoft, Google and

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Amazon. Uh so we've really created

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tremendous value in the second quarter

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and really in the last five years

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through our Bitcoin acquisition

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strategy.

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Our two primary KPIs that we measure

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ourselves against are BTC yield where we

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have an annualized annual target of 25%.

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And you'll see here year to date we're

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at 20.8% so nearly 80% of the way

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through uh achieving that BTC yield

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target. And the BTC dollar gain target

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that we've set is $15 billion. And

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you'll see we're at nearly 11 billion.

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So 2/3 more than 2/3 of the way through

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uh achieving our BTC gain target.

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The performance of our perpetual prefers

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that we've issued year to date, Strike,

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Strife, and Stride have been uh

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tremendous uh year to date. And it's a

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great backdrop for us to be introducing

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uh Stretch. I'll point out here that

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Stripe was launched uh in January this

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year at an $80 price and it has

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increased 48% since then to 118.2

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billion $118

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and we've added $549 million of strike

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through ATM sales. On Strife we launched

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in $85 and seems sim similarly strong

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performance 40% increase and $219

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million of ATM issuances. And our most

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recent uh IPO was Stride, which was

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launched at $85 and seen uh a 10% gain

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during that period of time and $18

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million in ATM sales. And so compared to

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the preferred universe and the preferred

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index PFF, the performance has been uh

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uh significantly better, right? Strike

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here with an ARR of 104% 48% performance

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compared to -2 for the PFF index. Strike

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has an ARR of 123% 40% increase compared

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to 0% for the PFF index. And in a short

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period of time, Stride has shown 87% ARR

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10% performance versus a 3% for the PFF

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index. And so those have all performed

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very well. And what has occurred is

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because of the increased performance or

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the high performance of these

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instruments and the increased price the

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yields have started to go down. And with

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the lower effective yields when we issue

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uh when we issue the instruments via an

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ATM uh it actually increases the bitcoin

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torque and it increases uh uh the

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accretion to to shareholder value with a

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lower effective yields and increase in

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bitcoin torque. So we've seen very

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strong performance and we've been proud

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of that and again think this is a great

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time to be launching stretch. The final

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piece that I'll walk through here is uh

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the amount of equity we have been able

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to raise uh through these instruments

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and how it has started to increase

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significantly over time. You'll see here

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we had a record week two weeks ago of

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$141 million of ATM issuances through

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our three instruments. And this is going

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to be our primary way uh over time to

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lever up the balance sheet to add uh

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performance to add BTC yield to add BTC

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dollar gain and BTC torque to our

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business. So with that, I'll hand this

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over to Michael Sailor.

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>> Thank you, Fong. I'm just really excited

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about Stretch. Um, Stretch is uh is the

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newest member of our preferred stock

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family. It's senior. It's perpetual

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preferred. Um, it's a variable monthly

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dividend and we've designed it to

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maintain a stable price.

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You know, the par value is 100. Uh, the

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dividend at par is 9% uh coming out of

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the gate initially. Uh, initially it's

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about a BTC rating of seven.

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and uh we pay it monthly and then uh the

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the dividend may adjust monthly.

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Um we're building out the yield curve

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with stretch. So, we've got a

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convertible preferred,

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we've got a long duration senior fixed

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preferred, we've got uh long duration uh

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junior preferred in the form of stride.

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And uh stretch is is filling a different

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part of of the credit market. We want it

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to be short duration. Um not, you know,

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it's not a 20 year or 30-year, you know,

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Bitcoin bond. It's meant to be a one-mon

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Bitcoin instrument.

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And so if you think about the way you'd

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price that,

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you know, uh we've got about a 340 basis

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point credit spread above the 20year

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Treasury bond for Strife. And so the

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effective yield of Strife is 840 basis

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points. You can see the spread there. If

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you were to take that same spread and

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apply it to stretch and and you were to

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benchmark that against the one month uh

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treasury then that suggests the

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equivalent stretch yield will be about

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7.7%.

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Now we're offering 9%

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uh out of the gate um initially. We're

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pretty excited about the instrument. Um

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if we price stretch uh the IPO at 95

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it'll be 9.5%.

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If we uh price the IPO at 90, it could

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be up to 10%.

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STRC is designed so that we can mitigate

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volatility. We want it to be the least

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volatile shortest duration instrument.

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We're targeting price stability. Um so

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if you look at uh sulfur uh if sulfur

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were to decrease then a uh a a preferred

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like strife that has a fixed dividend

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will tend to increase in price and when

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sulfur increases um a fixed dividend

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instrument will tend to decrease in

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price and so that's an example where you

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hold the dividend constant and the price

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fluctuates

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um you're getting price you're getting

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volatility. You know, the the

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instrument's actually engineered. It's

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designed so that that happens and it's

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for a certain type of investor that

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wants that uh type of sensitivity. Now,

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stretch is meant to be different. It's

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if you want the price to be less

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volatile, if you want to target a

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certain type of stable price, then you

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have to move something else. So the

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dividend changes and you can see here

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that by adjusting the dividend monthly

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and reacting as appropriate to sulfur

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then we have a mechanism right uh that

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we can use in order to in order to

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decrease the volatility of STRC and

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change the characteristics of it in the

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aftermarket.

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Um, the other thing that's different

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about Stretch is it's not a quarterly

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dividend, it's a monthly dividend. And

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we've heard from a lot of people that

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that that investors value monthly cash

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payments or monthly cash dividends. So

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the 15th day of the month will be the

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record date and then on the last day of

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the month, uh, we'll pay the dividends

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in cash and then we'll set the next

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month's stretch rate. And then we'll

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just do that with a simple monthly

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cadence.

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Now we have a number of mechanisms to to

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execute the stretch credit strategy.

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You know how do how do we make this

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instrument a success? Um well um within

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the target range we have uh we have uh

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the mechanism we can adjust the STRC

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dividend rate and the STRC issuance via

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the ATM.

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When the price falls below our target

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range then we would cease

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selling any STRC per the ATM.

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um and we have the option to increase

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the STRC dividend rate. Now what happens

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when the uh when STRC trades above our

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target range? Well, we have a mechanism.

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We could decrease the stretch dividend

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rate. We could issue stretch via a

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secondary offering at or below 101 or we

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can call stretch using the call option

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embedded in the instrument.

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So you can see it's a variety of

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mechanisms. They're novel. Uh most of

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these mechanisms I don't think you saw

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them in strike or strife or stride

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because those are different instruments

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for a different type of credit investor,

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right? Uh stretch has got a very

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particular goal that we're pursuing.

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And um you know what kind of investor

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would we'd like to find? What who are we

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targeting? Well, we're we're targeting

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short duration, lower volatility

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investors in credit that are looking

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for, you know, a yield. So, if you're

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buying a money market, you might be

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getting a 4.2% yield or $7 trillion in

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money markets. You know, maybe you're

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buying short-term tea bills. Maybe,

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yeah, you don't want interest rate

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duration risk. you don't want to worry

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about about uh the kind of movement in

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the principle that takes place in a 20

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or 30year swap. Um there's US dollar

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denominated bank accounts, a lot of

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them. Uh there's corporate commercial

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paper, right? Uh and so these are big

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markets. Our offering is $500 million.

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It's not so big. And you can see we're

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looking for those kind of those kind of

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credit investors. and we're offering 9.5

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to 10% effective yield for people or for

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investors that are comfortable with um

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uh a BTC

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backed credit instrument.

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Um this slide shows a different view of

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that universe and you can see there's

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they're just very large markets. we're

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gonna enter the market and um and of

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course our differentiation is a Bitcoin

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backed instrument with a much higher

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yield and of course you know this slide

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just shows how big this entire credit

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market is and how how small our entry

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is. Ultimately, our focus on Stretch is

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we want it to be a very unique type of

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credit, a very strong form of credit for

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those that believe in in Bitcoin and are

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enthusiastic about the crypto economy.

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Now, a lot of people will want to

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compare it to Strife. Um, you know,

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they're both senior perpetual

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instruments, but Stripe's quarterly,

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stretches monthly. They're both

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cumulative.

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And um you know strife because it's got

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a long duration, it's going to actually

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be more volatile to interest rate

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fluctuations

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and stretch because it's a much shorter

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duration should have a a different

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volatility profile

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and we've got that charted here uh on

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this slide as well. You can see on one

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hand uh we've engineered stretch to be

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our least volatile instrument and on the

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other hand we've engineered MSTR equity

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to be our most volatile instrument and

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then we offer you know various flavors

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in between for various types of

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investors.

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Uh now Stretch's credit is backed by our

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capital structure. And so we've got a

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$71 billion Bitcoin stack and this $132

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billion equity stack.

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So we have a we have a $59 billion

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Bitcoin surplus and uh and we have about

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$120 billion equity surplus.

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If you if you think about the capital

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structure uh in that configuration, you

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can see the the debt is fairly well

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collateralized.

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You can see the preferred instruments,

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you know, have BTC ratings between 5.8

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and 7.7. If you're a skeptic about

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Bitcoin, then you can see there is some

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risk here. and we've calculated the

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statistical risk and calculated the the

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BTC credit spread that you need to

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offset that risk. Um, but you can see

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even after that credit spread, you can

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see there's still a spread premium here.

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Um, if you're a Bitcoin maximalist and

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you think Bitcoin's appreciating 30% a

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year, then you can see that risk, you

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know, almost goes away. a it falls down

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to single digit basis points and the and

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the BTC credit goes to spread goes to

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zero or one and so so if you're a

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Bitcoin maximalist and and you believe

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in Bitcoin and you're looking for credit

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instruments you would be very

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enthusiastic about the credit that we're

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creating.

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Now, we also, you know, scenario out and

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consider what happens if we actually

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equitize our convertible bonds. And you

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can see here, um, if we were to equitize

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them at the earliest allowable call

17:37

date, they'll all go away by 2029. And,

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um, that's something that that everyone

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should be thinking about. We think about

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it. Now, we've done a pro-forma uh,

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capital structure. And the proform says,

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well, what happens if we equitize uh all

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the convertible notes that are currently

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in the money? Uh so not the entire

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stack, but the ones that are in the

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money. And you can see that uh it cuts

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our debt uh down to $5 billion and it

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increases the Bitcoin surplus. It

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increases the equity surplus. When you

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start to plug in that new capital

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structure, uh the BTC ratings of all the

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instruments move up. strife and stretch

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move beyond beyond a BTC rating of 10.

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You can see the remaining debt would

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have BTC ratings of 14 to 35.

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Now you can look at uh the various BTC

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credit um that pops out and you see the

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spread premiums but you know you start

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to see a very different capital or

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credit structure and of course if you're

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a Bitcoin maximalist you can see the

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risk you know collapses to just a few

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basis points and in fact the BTC credit

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spread uh falls to zero basis points for

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all six of these instruments if we were

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to do that for Bitcoin maximum

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Um, for anybody interested in this, you

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can go to our website strategy.com

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and you can plug in the Bitcoin price

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you want. You can plug in your forecast

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for volatility. You can plug in your

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forecast for BTC ARR. It'll it'll give

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you the BTC ratings, the BTC risk, the

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BTC credit. It's very interesting and

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and we're happy to share that model.

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Now looking longterm, you know, and and

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long term for us is, you know, three

19:27

years out, we're really thinking about a

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capital structure where Strife would be

19:33

at the top and we would be targeting a

19:36

BTC rating of 10 or more and stretch

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would be second, but we're also

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targeting 10 or more. We want these to

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be our highest rating uh our highest

19:48

rated uh most secure most over

19:51

collateralized BTC credit instruments.

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Um the mezzanine instrument would be

19:58

strike with a BTC rating of six or more.

20:01

The high yield instrument will be stride

20:03

with a BTC rating of three or more. Um,

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all of those credit instruments will be

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supported by Bitcoin, our Bitcoin stack,

20:12

which is the hard asset, which is

20:14

liquid, and they'll be also supported by

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our equity in the equity capital

20:20

markets. And so, you can you can see

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that's our long-term BTC capital

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structure. And when you start to crank

20:29

that in and you think about what's the

20:31

plan, you can you can see that our

20:33

ability to issue credit, it'll be a

20:35

function of uh the appreciation of

20:37

Bitcoin. It'll be a function of the

20:40

increase in our equity capital base. You

20:43

know, it'll be a function of of um you

20:47

know, the issuance of the junior

20:49

instruments. As we as we issue more

20:51

stride, that will actually make strikes

20:53

stretch and strife more creditworthy. So

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there's a a lot of opportunity here and

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all of these instruments are very

21:01

reflexive to each other. The issuance of

21:04

one generally uh results in an

21:07

improvement uh in the prospects of the

21:10

others.

21:12

So I've laid out our capital plan and

21:15

our credit strategy. Here you can see

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our long-term targets for the four

21:20

instruments in the c and the credit

21:22

structure.

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You know, our plan is that uh we'd like

21:26

to reduce our overall senior convertible

21:28

debt outstanding over time and we'll

21:32

seek to equitize that um as as the

21:36

options arrive and as as available and

21:39

we'll simplify our capital structure in

21:42

order to elevate the BTC ratings of the

21:45

remaining credit instruments.

21:47

um as we move forward, you know,

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preferred are our preferred credit

21:52

instrument and they'll remain perpetual.

21:55

We think that keeps our flexibility,

21:58

maintains flexibility, but also

21:59

minimizes default risk. It's just best

22:02

for our credit strategy. And then we're

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going to time our future offerings and

22:07

we'll size them to maintain our target

22:09

BTC ratings and to preserve our tiered

22:12

risk and yield integrity across the the

22:15

the stack.

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And our our business strategy is we want

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to be the leading issuer of BTC backed

22:22

credit instruments in the world. We are

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now we don't see any reason why we

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shouldn't uh grow that business and

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continue to be the leader in that

22:30

market. Uh we'll do it with very clear

22:33

credit standards, a disciplined approach

22:35

to leverage and uh very transparent

22:38

capital allocation.

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goal for stretch is we're targeting low

22:47

volatility, short duration,

22:50

high yield credit, right? Stretch is

22:55

meant to be strong credit. It's for

22:58

credit investors. They don't want long

23:01

duration. They don't want volatility. Um

23:03

they want the highest yield they can

23:05

get. I if you can I if you can uh

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diminish the volatility and shrink the

23:13

duration.

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How are we going to do that? Um well,

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we're leaning on four pillars. MSTR, the

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issuer, has a 35-year track record.

23:22

We're a well-known seasoned issuer. We

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have a hundred billion plus equity

23:27

market cap, hundred billion plus options

23:30

open interest. We have nearly five five

23:33

billion dollars a day of equity

23:35

liquidity. So a very a very well-

23:39

capitalized

23:41

seasoned issuer.

23:44

We're also focused upon our digital

23:47

capital strategy. So digital performance

23:50

is really important. That's how we're

23:52

going to generate the yield on these

23:54

instruments, right? And the performance

23:56

comes from Bitcoin which has been

23:58

appreciating 59% a year for nearly 5

24:01

years now. Uh MSTR is appreciating 104%

24:05

a year. So, we are the bridge to the

24:08

crypto economy and as the crypto economy

24:10

grows and the digital economy grows, we

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expect uh Bitcoin performance to

24:15

continue and we expect that will drive

24:16

MSTR performance and we expect that that

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will that will be how we will um fund

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and back these credit instruments.

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You know, we're we're executing a

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treasury operation. That's the third

24:31

prong of our stretch uh support, right?

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We've got four ATMs right now. We're

24:38

going to add a fifth ATM um as soon as

24:41

practicable with Stretch. We've issued

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$35 billion of securities over the past

24:47

year. Uh and we've got a 5-year track

24:49

record issuing uh these securities into

24:52

the marketplace. And so our Treasury

24:55

team will support stretch and and we

24:58

expect that's one of the elements

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that'll that will make this strong

25:03

credit. And then finally um the credit

25:06

of of stretch itself is backed by

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607,770

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bitcoin right the largest corporate

25:15

bitcoin stack unencumbered bitcoin that

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we can use as hard collateral

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that gives stretch rating of seven you

25:25

know on the IPO and uh that means seven

25:28

times over collateralized.

25:30

So when you think of stretch str

25:35

means strong and C means credit right

25:38

stretch is strong credit targeted to the

25:42

credit markets to a very particular type

25:44

of credit investor and um it's it's

25:48

unique in our credit stack. It's not

25:50

like stride. It's not like strife. It's

25:52

not like strike. It's not like the

25:53

equity. Um, we think uh that that we're

25:57

bringing a very elegant and exciting

26:00

product to the market. We hope that

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you'll agree with us. Um, in our

26:05

appendix, we've offered uh a review of

26:08

our debt coverage and as you can see,

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we've got a substantial stack of hard

26:14

assets that covers our existing debt

26:16

obligations. It's 14 times debt coverage

26:19

right now. Uh, we've got a review of our

26:22

dividend coverage. We've got 180 years

26:25

worth of preferred dividends covered

26:27

with hard assets. Even if we had a 75%

26:31

decline in BTC, we still have 26 years

26:34

of dividend coverage.

26:37

Uh we've got a review of our dividend

26:40

obligations and how are we going to pay

26:42

these cash dividends with our our ATM.

26:45

And you can see um you can see we've got

26:49

substantial liquidity in our equity and

26:52

and uh we feel confident that our ATM uh

26:57

will be more than supportive for all of

26:59

these dividend obligations.

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Um we've also uh got some detail on our

27:05

KPIs we use. So if if you're wondering

27:08

about how we define BTC gain or BTC

27:12

yield,

27:13

you know, and and uh these various other

27:16

BTC instruments, you can uh feel free to

27:19

check out the footnotes. Um we've got uh

27:23

a discussion of BTC rating here and BTC

27:26

risk and BTC credit. Um, we've been

27:30

we've been leaders in offering a Bitcoin

27:33

equity model and we're also offering our

27:37

Bitcoin credit market. Uh, sorry, our

27:39

Bitcoin credit model. Uh, and so please

27:42

feel free to look at these. We think uh

27:44

we think these provide a a strong

27:47

statistical and mathematical

27:49

underpinning for what we're doing and

27:51

they would be interesting to any Bitcoin

27:54

uh treasury company or or BTC equity

27:57

investor or BTC credit investor. So with

28:01

that, it stretches are, you know, it's

28:03

it's it's our latest offering. We're

28:05

very excited about it. It's unique. Uh

28:08

we think it's very special. We hope

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you'll agree with us. And I want to

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thank you for your time and your

28:12

attention today.

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