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Tom Bilyeu · 2022-11-10 · 2h 56m · View on YouTube →

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so when all of this kicked off I'm a

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relatively bright guy but when all of

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this kicked off

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um I told my and this being covet I told

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my money manager I said look I want to

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be as close to my money being buried in

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the backyard as humanly possible and she

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just kept saying you don't understand

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inflation like this is going to be a

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problem like your money will go down in

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value and I was like I get it but I feel

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like it's happening slowly enough that

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I've got time to like get my head

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together like this is so disruptive and

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um you know Bill Gates predicted it so I

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won't say it was unpredictable but it

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was so surprising and unlike anything I

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had ever lived through I just didn't

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know what was going to happen and I

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didn't understand money markets well

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enough or Finance in general I'd always

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better myself as an entrepreneur so I

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understand how to build business I

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understand how to create wealth but

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maintaining it is like a whole nother

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thing that honestly I know a little bit

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about now I knew nothing about it then

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so I just kept saying look get me as

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close to buried in the backyard as I can

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then I come across you and and you talk

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about hurdle rate

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and then I was like oh my God this isn't

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something I've got 30 years to figure

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out this is something I have four years

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to figure out to get to like a halfway

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point to where I've already lost 50 of

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my wealth so I was like whoa now I have

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to take action so now I start

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researching like crazy okay is it going

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to be crypto is it going to be

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specifically Bitcoin is it going to be

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something else and this idea of creating

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basically turning sunlight into

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cryptographically protected money is a a

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very interesting idea and so I'd like to

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know now so those are all the reasons

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why like there's you can protect

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yourself from the government but you

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have a compelling argument as to why I

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should be willing to stomach sort of

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short-term volatility and why because

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that's like the argument if I'm the

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average person on the street I'm like yo

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literally last week this lost like 30 or

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40 percent of its value so that's

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terrifying so why would I be better off

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in that then you know even a bond with a

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negative yield at least like I'm

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bleeding to death more slowly than the

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35 loss or whatever that I just took

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over the last week well bitcoin's the

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best performing asset for the past

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decade and it's you know it's 100x

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better than gold and it's 10x better

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than uh Equity portfolios so the

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volatility is the price you pay for the

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performance that you get

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and uh oftentimes the best investment

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idea isn't the most comfortable

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investment idea

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um I I think um if I told you there's a

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hundred percent certainty you're going

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to lose seven percent of your money over

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the course of a year

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you might think well you know I have a

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decade before I lose half of my money I

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have time to think about it that's

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that's the status quo when monetary

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inflation seven percent

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if I told you there's a hundred percent

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probability that you're going to lose 20

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percent of your money over the next year

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and half of your money over the next

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three years

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well I mean you might think you need to

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move faster well what if I told you

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you're going to lose all your money what

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if I told you the currency is going to

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collapse to zero

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in three months

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which is kind of what it did in Zimbabwe

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and Venezuela or what have I told you

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we're going to have 95 inflation I think

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the unofficial inflation rate in

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Argentina is like 85 percent this year

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what have I told you we're going to have

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hyperinflation

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everything will be twice as expensive

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next year

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now how long would you wait before you

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took a risk

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I I can you know if I really want to you

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know get you to jump out of the pot

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right I could just make it simple next

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Tuesday I'm seizing all your money

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or you can spend it between now and next

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Tuesday right what I mean that really uh

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what is the word focus is one right

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right it strengthens one it stiffens

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one's spine and focuses one if I just

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made it very black and white I'm just

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going to take all your money next

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Tuesday or you can spend it between now

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and then so

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how do you actually

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get comfortable with the volatility well

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I think first you have to get you have

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to understand how big your problem is

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and the second thing is one of time

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Horizon and what do you what's your

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aspirational goal for example

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if you're if you don't aspire to change

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your lifestyle one iota and you know

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you're going to watch Netflix let's take

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a stream you're going to live in your

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parents basement watch Netflix order

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Domino's pizza and stream YouTube video

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for the rest of your life do you have an

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inflation problem coming

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probably not

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if you wanna if you want to buy your own

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house you have a bigger inflation

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problem because housing went up 15 if

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you want to get married buy a house have

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three kids and if you know if you want

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to take expensive vacations and have a

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have a house on the lake you have a big

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inflation problem guess what luxury

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homes on the lake went up in price a lot

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same with education if I plan to send

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those kids to school I'm really in

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trouble yeah so it really comes down to

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what is your aspiration and that that

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determines your hurdle rate I mean what

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you want determines your inflation rate

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and your inflation rate determines your

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hurdle rate and that makes a difference

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I think

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in terms of historic metaphors I mean

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there's plenty for example my family

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came to um

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to the United States in 1736 on a wooden

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okay and if you if you want to go study

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those voyages they spent eight weeks

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have you ever tried there's not a single

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person that's like probably got in a

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wooden ship with three sales for eight

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weeks to cross the North Atlantic in

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order to come to America the mortality

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rate is like

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two to five percent on that trip the

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mortality rate to go from Europe to the

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Far East is like 35 percent it's insane

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like one out of three people that

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started the journey dies on the trip

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okay so you know we talk about

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volatility is Bitcoin bumpy is crypto

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we're just talking about Bitcoin yeah

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Bitcoin is Bumpy what else is Bumpy yeah

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Wooden Ships and 15 foot Seas if you

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want the definition of a rocky ride the

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the rocky ride was was leaving Europe so

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why'd they do it so you're saying that

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the Bold are the ones rewarded if you

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choose correctly

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right I mean the ones that move too soon

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you know went to certain colonies you

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know that on the Potomac River and the

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James River and they died right so

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there's a lot of early settlers took

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arrows in their back you know in the

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1600s on the other hand uh by the mid 17

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1700s by 1736 you know people have been

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living in North America and you had

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Philadelphia and and you had

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Massachusetts successful colony and the

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like so if you choose the right decision

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or make the right decision at the right

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time you can have a better life but

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there's still risk

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right so why'd the people come from

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Europe they came for property rights and

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civil rights right they either couldn't

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exercise their religion or there was no

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hope for them all the property was owned

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by someone else

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and the you know property rights matter

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if I a lot of people don't realize this

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they think that they they think the

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property rights are nice to have

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property rights are nice to have the

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same way that that fat on your frame or

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an insulin are nice to have if I strip

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away your insulin you're a type 1

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diabetic you can't form fat

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if you can't form fat you can eat all

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day long and you're going to starve to

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death

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it's not a nice to have to store to

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store energy over time fat is an organic

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energy battery and property is a social

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energy battery so being able to store

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property means I can go three months

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without a job and not starve

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and live and live a life there is no

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hope for a Civil Life without property

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so you know people went from Europe to

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the US for property when they got to the

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east coast they went West it's in the

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American ethos was there a bumpy ride

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taking a wagon train over the Rocky

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Mountains you ever fly over the Rocky

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Mountains and look down

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before they had the railroad and before

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they had the highways and then you asked

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how did people actually cover the turf

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it's like

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yes it was a bumpy ride

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there was a volatility along the way

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you know I think the risk and the

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discomfort today of owning Bitcoin is a

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heck of a lot less and then the risk and

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the discomfort of getting in a ship or

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getting on a horse

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or you know getting on a wagon or

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walking

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right or settling

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and doing what you need to in order to

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secure your civil rights and your

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property rights and your freedom

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but um there is an analogy

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um the only way you make the volatility

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go away is you make the opportunity go

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that yeah

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the reason you went West was because

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people weren't living there and you

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wanted thousands of acres to yourself to

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live a better life right

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and when you got there you found that

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there was no one that had come before

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you to you know to clear the thing you

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know and build a house for you and give

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you running water and hand the keys to

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you and do your bidding

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because you know you're going to a new

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place that was where the opportunity was

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so I think it's very

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it's very uh quintessential to the

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American Spirit or that or the

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entrepreneurial Spirit or or just the

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human spirit

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you know what about immigrants a nation

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made of immigrants people went from a

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country where they had nothing to a

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country where they could have something

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that's the story that you see over and

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over again

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is it volatility is there a risk

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yeah always right

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um is there opportunity

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yeah when do you leave look I mean the

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rich first sons of the Nobles in Europe

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didn't come

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yeah it was the poor disenfranchised the

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the people that uh that didn't have a

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choice that came

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right that the Protestants left Catholic

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countries the Catholics left Protestant

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countries the poor left every country

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those who are you know hoping for a

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better life came

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and you know if you're if you're sitting

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wealthy with lots and lots of stuff and

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a comfortable life

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style and a comfortable portfolio you

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might not see the same impedance right

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you wouldn't have the same inspiration

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to do something it's interesting so the

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humanitarian side of this is one of the

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things that I find more fascinating

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about the Bitcoin movement there is

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something very encouraging about the

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fact that all the people in my life that

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came to me with this saying Tom you

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really have to look at this we're young

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people

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um you know the level of awareness that

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they have had that and I have a lot of

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employees that sort of straddle are they

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the low low end of

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um gen Millennials are they the upper

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end of gen Z you know I guess it depends

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on where you split it but there are sort

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of early 20s and uh you know they're

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looking at this as like hey this is this

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is the opportunity our generation has

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been looking for there's finally a

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moment where we can really capture some

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upside we're young enough that if we

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sort of invest poorly it should be fine

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that we should be able to make this

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money back up they buy into the ethos of

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only invest what you're prepared to lose

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you know these aren't guys that are

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doing things on Leverage and so that is

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is very helpful you know when you talk

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about the beginning of the pandemic was

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this well transferred to people that

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basically owned bonds and assets and now

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with you know hopefully the sort of

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prolonged and I think that's an

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important thing to note is yes there's

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volatility to Bitcoin in the short term

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I've heard you say if you're looking at

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a number and anything less than a

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four-year increment it's just noise and

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that once you extend out to four years

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and Beyond suddenly it actually becomes

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a story of you know growing I think it's

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like 200 percent year over year which is

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you know pretty thrilling

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um how far does when you think about

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this being sort of the Apex property

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how much goes into just the the fact

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that it's taking sunlight and turning it

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into something that's cryptographically

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protected and how much of that stance is

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that this evens the playing field

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you know I think a Bitcoin is like

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that shining City in cyberspace where

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billions of people will eventually want

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to live

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right instead of moving from Europe to

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America or moving from the old world to

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the new world or whatever or moving from

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the planet to cyberspace we can't move

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to outer space yet I can't get a billion

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people off the planet and settle on a

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better Earth but I can move a billion

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people to cyberspace

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Bitcoin is property and cyberspace it's

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21 million city blocks in cyber

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Manhattan

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the people that moved there first

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right get to buy the land cheapest

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and then event you know how many people

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will eventually want to live there

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well unlike Manhattan where there's a

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limit there's really no limit why

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wouldn't everybody want to live there

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right I mean

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I don't know that there won't be other

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cities in cyberspace that that might

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meet other needs I mean I suppose if the

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Chinese you know made it illegal to own

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Bitcoin but there was a Chinese Bitcoin

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there might be a Chinese version of

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Bitcoin in cyberspace kind of like

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Alibaba you know and ant and and WeChat

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kind of branched off from Facebook and

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Google and Amazon

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so there might be some other digital

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dominant monetary networks or dominant

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monitoring networks but but Bitcoin is

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the greatest

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um monetary Network that the human race

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has ever developed and it's certainly

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the dominant one right now and it looks

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like it's going to be continue to be the

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dominant one

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for as long as we live

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so um what makes it uh dominant

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well I mean clearly the architecture is

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a proof of work or in other words

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throwing up a wall of encrypted energy

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right it's all of uh the crypto hash

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power that's channeling energy through

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the hashing function which creates uh

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creates the stability and the security

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and so it's based upon the architecture

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but um but ultimately the appeal of it

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is that it's an open permissionless

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protocol that everybody on Earth can

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engage in anybody can mine it anybody

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can so anybody can contribute security

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to the network

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and anybody can run their own node and

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anybody can own it and then any company

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uh can plug into it

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and so there's nothing that open there

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is no there is no monetary protocol or

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asset or currency that is so open

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as the Bitcoin asset and so that's

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what's driving its value right now

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it's it's an opportunity for people that

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are that have little

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that have uh little to lose and much to

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gain it's an option for everybody though

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I mean the way I think of it is it's a

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moral imperative a technical imperative

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and an economic imperative

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morally it's an imperative because it's

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it's the best hope for eight billion

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people to secure their property rights

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if I give you a 50 Android phone you can

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carry around in the Android wallet your

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property and no bank or no hostile

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regime can seize it

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and we've never and that's the best

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property right you're ever going to get

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I think it's a technical imperative for

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the same reason you've got eight billion

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mobile phones that will all have

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property and so what's more important

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storing your photos and your videos on

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your mobile phone or storing all your

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money

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all your life Fork on your mobile phone

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I mean you're worried about losing the

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photos you took on your iPhone are you

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worried about losing your life savings

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clearly it's more valuable so so it's a

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it's a technology imperative for an

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apple and Amazon and Google and Facebook

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and companies like square and PayPal and

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binance and coinbase are already

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extraordinarily Successful by embracing

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that you can see that right now

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and finally it's an economic imperative

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because there's 500 trillion dollars

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worth of uh Fiat derivatives cash and

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bonds and stocks and real estate that's

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valued based upon cash flows and all of

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those things are being devalued at one

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percent a month something so we can go

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back and forth over what's the rate of

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currency expansion but

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you know it's it's not that hard to see

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that this is a 25 to 50 trillion dollar

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a year problem for anybody with assets

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on Earth it's very rare that you find it

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a technology that's the solution to

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every rich person's problem and every

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poor person's problem simultaneously

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what do you say to people that that say

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um the pushback I've seen on bitcoin is

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hey guys sorry I get why you're excited

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about it but it's the Netscape of crypto

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and uh you know just as a technological

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layer it was early cool yay thanks for

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sort of proving the model but this is

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Never Gonna Last people will build

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something way better

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yeah well Netscape didn't make it to a

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trillion dollars in market value in 10

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years

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right uh if we if we calculate the

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amount of monetary energy on the network

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Bitcoin would be more successful than

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Google Facebook Amazon apple or

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Microsoft in fact it would be more and

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it's you know

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much more successful than than Netscape

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or AOL or anything from that genre

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those things never got to 1 100th

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right I think Netscape you know at its

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peak you know

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was maybe 120th one thirtieth one

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fortieth of what we're seeing in front

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of us right now

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and uh

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the the difference really is

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there is no other uh there is no

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technology an architecture that's uh

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that's appropriate to replace it the

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solution to the issue of long duration

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asset

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or long duration Safe Haven store of

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value is is a very secure crypto asset

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Network and so Bitcoin is the single

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most secure network in the world

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it's the most secure database in the

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world it's the most secure asset in the

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world the way that you make it secure is

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through the extraordinary

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decentralization

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combined with uh the way that it uh that

0:19:24

it converts energy into very special

0:19:26

specialized Shaw 256 hash function

0:19:30

so in order to attack that Network it

0:19:32

would take extraordinary time and effort

0:19:34

and energy and resources it's it's

0:19:37

pretty much the most secure thing we've

0:19:39

got in the cyberspace and what about

0:19:41

people that look at that and go yes cool

0:19:44

you've built this amazing protective

0:19:47

layer but it comes at the cost of the

0:19:49

environment the actual cost is

0:19:52

um you know nominally 0.1 percent of the

0:19:56

energy used in the world but the

0:19:59

economic value of the energy is not even

0:20:03

10 basis points it's like three basis

0:20:05

points so you're talking about like it's

0:20:09

almost if you put it on a sheet of paper

0:20:10

it would be like a couple of dots but

0:20:12

you can't even see it

0:20:14

the uh the overall energy generated and

0:20:17

the in the economy is like a hundred and

0:20:20

sixty thousand terawatt hours and the

0:20:25

wasted energy is 50 000 terawatt hours

0:20:27

and Bitcoin is

0:20:29

120 out of 50 000 wasted energy so it

0:20:33

really is insignificant as an energy

0:20:37

load on the environment

0:20:39

but if you dig a bit deeper you'll find

0:20:41

that actually Bitcoin is much cleaner

0:20:44

energy than all the rest of the

0:20:46

applications cars Planes Trains

0:20:48

automobiles it's pretty obvious uh

0:20:52

planes use fossil fuels

0:20:54

there's no hope for them not to

0:20:57

Bitcoin doesn't Bitcoin is actually

0:20:59

something that runs on electricity it

0:21:01

doesn't run on fossil fuels you know

0:21:03

most cars still use fossil fuels and

0:21:06

even electric cars are charged at

0:21:07

charging stations that are charged with

0:21:09

fossil fuels so

0:21:11

so the environmentalists ultimately are

0:21:14

going to focus upon the energy grid and

0:21:16

if they want to shut down fossil fuels

0:21:18

or change the Energy Mix away from coal

0:21:21

or something they'll do that Bitcoin is

0:21:25

the highest value application of energy

0:21:29

on a wholesale basis that we have in the

0:21:32

world there's nothing

0:21:34

nothing more valuable there's no more

0:21:36

valuable use of energy than Bitcoin the

0:21:38

latest generation of Shaw 256 miners

0:21:41

they will generate almost 45 cents a

0:21:44

kilowatt hour in value which means you

0:21:48

can take them anywhere on Earth to the

0:21:49

North Pole you can put a nuclear reactor

0:21:51

on the North Pole and run and run

0:21:53

Bitcoin mining from it you can plug them

0:21:56

into wind generators a thousand miles

0:21:58

out into a desert you can plug them into

0:22:00

geothermal on an island like Iceland and

0:22:03

you can generate 45 cents a kilowatt

0:22:06

the typical residential electricity cost

0:22:09

is 13 cents a kilowatt hour industrial

0:22:12

usage in the first world is 11 cents a

0:22:14

kilowatt hour

0:22:15

and all that energy has to be co-located

0:22:18

with the factories and the people

0:22:21

right we don't you know we don't have an

0:22:24

application an industrial application of

0:22:26

energy like Bitcoin that you can put

0:22:28

anywhere on Earth so what's the result

0:22:30

the result is that Bitcoin is used to

0:22:32

recycle stranded energy or wasted energy

0:22:35

if you have um if you have a

0:22:38

hydroelectric Dam and you have a lot of

0:22:40

energy but you don't have people to use

0:22:42

it well the dam is generating energy

0:22:44

year round but the people don't need it

0:22:46

but maybe a few months a year or maybe

0:22:49

they don't need it in the evening they

0:22:51

just need it during the day to run their

0:22:52

air conditioners like air conditioning

0:22:54

is a great example of a cycling energy

0:22:56

use Bitcoin is perfect a perfect energy

0:22:59

uh battery because you can run it at

0:23:02

night while the people are asleep and

0:23:04

the air conditioning is off and so you

0:23:05

level out energy consumption on the grid

0:23:08

thereby driving on the cost of energy

0:23:10

for everybody on Earth

0:23:12

and for any any plant that would

0:23:15

otherwise be decommissioned you have a

0:23:17

use for it if you don't want to

0:23:18

decommission it

0:23:20

and of course as you can imagine uh the

0:23:22

sun shines in the desert where people

0:23:23

don't live and the wind blows in places

0:23:26

where people don't live and volcanoes

0:23:28

you know and geothermal energy exists

0:23:30

where people don't want to live

0:23:32

those are three sources of energy

0:23:34

they're all sustainable renewable energy

0:23:37

if you know anything about a power

0:23:39

engineering you know you can't move

0:23:41

electricity more than 500 miles on a

0:23:44

period it's a hard stop a hard limit if

0:23:47

you happen to find geothermal energy

0:23:50

more than 500 miles from Manhattan we

0:23:53

don't need it and and news flash we've

0:23:57

already got too much energy right so

0:23:59

even if you found geothermal energy in

0:24:02

the middle of Central Park we still

0:24:03

don't need it

0:24:05

and so what if I told you Tom I've

0:24:09

actually got infinite free sustainable

0:24:11

energy and it's a thousand miles away

0:24:14

from a city

0:24:16

what are you going to do with it well I

0:24:18

mean the only obvious thing to do with

0:24:20

is Bitcoin mining

0:24:21

so Bitcoin is migrating to the ends of

0:24:24

the Earth

0:24:25

to the most sustainable energy which is

0:24:28

also the cheapest energy which is also

0:24:30

the greenest energy

0:24:32

and um and it's a solution to the

0:24:35

problem of how do we catalyze

0:24:37

sustainable energy how do we get green

0:24:40

it's also a solution to every country's

0:24:42

problem you know you're in the middle of

0:24:44

Africa with a waterfall and no industry

0:24:46

what's your best how are you going to

0:24:48

lift your people out of poverty

0:24:50

you plug you know a turbine into your

0:24:53

waterfall you plug Bitcoin mining into

0:24:55

the turbine and now you have cheap uh

0:24:58

cheap energy plug that's green that's

0:25:00

plugged into a clean

0:25:02

hard currency exporter that pays taxes

0:25:06

that elevates you out of poverty that's

0:25:09

environmentally friendly

0:25:11

so I I think it's a good story here

0:25:14

people just don't they don't understand

0:25:16

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0:25:19

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today's episode yeah I would agree with

0:25:58

that like the the attacks upon it from

0:26:00

an environmental standpoint are

0:26:02

Relentless and to be honest I just sort

0:26:04

of brushed them off based on the facts

0:26:07

that you've given it seemed like wait

0:26:08

people just don't understand the

0:26:10

narrative or they don't understand the

0:26:11

facts they've fallen for a narrative and

0:26:14

until Elon Musk who's sort of the king

0:26:16

of clean energy for the love of God uh

0:26:20

came out and expressed concerns over the

0:26:22

environmental impact of Bitcoin

0:26:25

um how is it possible if everything that

0:26:27

you just said is true that somebody's so

0:26:30

into the world of clean energy could be

0:26:33

against it

0:26:35

we got a lot of Education

0:26:41

hasn't published um transparent

0:26:41

statistics about the nature of the

0:26:44

energy usage in Bitcoin mining because

0:26:45

the Bitcoin miners are very

0:26:47

decentralized

0:26:48

and so and so

0:26:51

encouraging transparency and Gathering

0:26:54

all the data and Publishing it that will

0:26:56

be helpful because

0:26:58

because there's a good story here I

0:27:00

think that uh that the the mining uh the

0:27:03

energy usage is not well understood

0:27:06

for example three years ago someone

0:27:08

thought that energy was used in

0:27:11

transactions and then they thought since

0:27:13

energy is used in transactions if we

0:27:15

scale up the number of transactions

0:27:17

eventually Bitcoin will boil the ocean

0:27:19

and uh that wasn't true either

0:27:22

because the Bitcoin Network never

0:27:24

increases the number of transactions and

0:27:26

then the energy usage is unrelated to

0:27:28

transactions and in fact the energy

0:27:31

usage is decreasing exponentially

0:27:34

as as the transactions scale and

0:27:37

efficiency exponentially but the model

0:27:39

was flawed and so people picked it up

0:27:42

and no one's published a better model so

0:27:44

so we need to and if you only spend an

0:27:48

thinking about it or spend a few hours

0:27:50

you might not understand the nuances so

0:27:52

I think that the industry needs to do a

0:27:54

better job of transparently

0:27:56

communicating the current usage of

0:27:58

energy and transparently communicating

0:28:00

how it's going to change over the next

0:28:02

20 years

0:28:04

have you read Matt Ridley's book The

0:28:06

Evolution of everything

0:28:08

no I haven't

0:28:09

it's really interesting I don't know if

0:28:10

you're familiar with him as an author

0:28:12

but he wrote a book called the rational

0:28:13

Optimist another really great book He's

0:28:16

written a few I think he also was the

0:28:18

one that wrote the Red Queen which is

0:28:19

basically evolution is about running as

0:28:21

fast as you can to effectively stay in

0:28:23

place and

0:28:25

in the book he he goes into

0:28:28

why the basically you have two ways to

0:28:32

look at the world you have a a

0:28:33

creationist

0:28:34

point of view where it's like a top-down

0:28:36

God created the or the universe you know

0:28:39

let there be light and everything went

0:28:40

into motion and so hey top down that

0:28:42

works and then you've got an

0:28:43

evolutionary lens where everything is

0:28:45

bottom up and he goes and makes a very

0:28:47

credible case why a lot of the things

0:28:50

that we think of as being

0:28:53

um top down were really bottom up and

0:28:56

I've heard you talk a lot about in

0:28:58

drawing parallels to bitcoin you've

0:29:00

talked a lot about like hey if you look

0:29:02

at any City that's you know a couple

0:29:05

hundred years old the buildings are all

0:29:06

six stories tall and they're six stories

0:29:08

tall because that's what masonry and a

0:29:10

wood frame is going to get you and

0:29:12

people without electricity are not going

0:29:13

to be able to go up more than six

0:29:15

flights of stairs and so you hypothesize

0:29:17

that hey if you went and looked at Rome

0:29:19

my guess is that in Rome they're

0:29:21

probably going to be six feet tall

0:29:22

there's just a materials problem and so

0:29:25

you end up getting skyscrapers the way

0:29:29

that we think of them now as the steel

0:29:32

comes along and now steel can build

0:29:33

bigger buildings you've got electricity

0:29:35

so you can do an elevator and so

0:29:38

steel wasn't this moment of or

0:29:41

skyscrapers not a moment of pure genius

0:29:43

by an architect it's the ground up of

0:29:46

like oh look steel becomes the thing

0:29:47

electricity becomes a thing Architects

0:29:50

are learning something and so this one

0:29:52

thing is probably more a reflection of

0:29:56

its time than it is this Staggering

0:29:59

Genius where somebody lurches us forward

0:30:01

and so he looks at all these classic

0:30:04

cases where we thought it was one person

0:30:06

that really did this thing like there's

0:30:08

something like seven people uh in

0:30:12

different countries that came up with a

0:30:13

light bulb but almost exactly the same

0:30:15

time and so in the west we of course

0:30:17

hear about Thomas Edison but in reality

0:30:19

he's saying no no this was just an idea

0:30:20

whose time had come

0:30:22

and it really gave me a very visceral

0:30:25

understanding of the difference between

0:30:28

somebody that just the subroutine

0:30:30

running in the back of their mind is

0:30:32

creationist in origin that I view

0:30:34

everything through the lens of uh a

0:30:37

particular genius Sparks and then

0:30:39

something moves forward versus all the

0:30:42

things you mistake for that including

0:30:44

the universe itself is actually a

0:30:46

bottom-up phenomenon and once you flip

0:30:49

your thinking over to everything evolves

0:30:51

everything comes from the bottom up you

0:30:53

begin to come up with

0:30:55

solutions that are more effective right

0:30:57

and so going back to the old adage I

0:31:01

forget who it was that came Yeltsin

0:31:03

maybe that came from Russia and was

0:31:05

doing a tour of a grocery store and he

0:31:07

just could not believe like the shelves

0:31:09

are all full and he's like but who

0:31:11

decides the price of bread and they're

0:31:13

like what do you mean like it's just set

0:31:15

locally at the local store

0:31:18

and that is top down thinking where it's

0:31:21

so embedded into your psyche you can't

0:31:23

even conceive of another way to do it

0:31:25

versus us where you know we wouldn't

0:31:28

think to have somebody tell us it's like

0:31:30

well you just set the price based on

0:31:32

what somebody can control there but I

0:31:34

feel as somebody who's just old enough

0:31:37

you know I was a kid when Reagan was

0:31:39

President and now I can feel everything

0:31:40

shifting in the opposite direction which

0:31:43

brings me to the question I really want

0:31:44

to ask you point blank

0:31:47

what what do you think it uh so I'll

0:31:50

I'll lead you down a Garden Path I think

0:31:52

the problem is that the reality of the

0:31:55

market is it leaves some people behind

0:31:57

some businesses collapse and that's

0:31:59

painful some people will lose their

0:32:01

Generations worth of wealth in a bad

0:32:03

decision

0:32:05

and if you're not willing to let some

0:32:07

people uh get eaten by the lion

0:32:10

you got to go top down the problem is

0:32:12

you then crush them you you cuddle them

0:32:14

to death

0:32:20

what's your thought on that

0:32:20

I I think that if you're an individual

0:32:22

looking for the rational path forward

0:32:24

what you want to do is embrace

0:32:28

Technologies or ideologies

0:32:32

that um

0:32:34

that reinforce individual sovereignty

0:32:37

and freedom

0:32:38

and uh and they're rational so so hence

0:32:42

Bitcoin right like if you're gonna if

0:32:45

you have

0:32:47

um a bunch of money and you have a

0:32:49

choice are you gonna buy a million

0:32:51

dollars of gold and put it in a bank of

0:32:53

a centralized institution that will

0:32:55

seize it are you going to buy a million

0:32:57

dollars of land in the middle of Beijing

0:32:59

where the government of China could just

0:33:01

take it from you are you going to buy a

0:33:04

million dollars worth of a stock in a

0:33:07

Chinese company how about American

0:33:09

company how about an Argentinian company

0:33:12

or are you going to buy a million

0:33:14

dollars worth of a crypto asset that's

0:33:17

in cyberspace beyond the reach

0:33:19

of a government or a corporation

0:33:22

and so clearly that the answer is if you

0:33:27

take all of your money and all of your

0:33:29

power and you put it in the middle of

0:33:31

Beijing

0:33:32

right they own you and what if you're if

0:33:37

your life is not consistent with the

0:33:38

policies of that government then you

0:33:41

lose everything when you put if you took

0:33:43

all your money and you you invested it

0:33:46

in New York City the mayor of New York

0:33:48

could just take it and if if New York if

0:33:51

you took all your money and you put it

0:33:53

in New Zealand and New Zealand locked

0:33:54

down the economy for a year

0:33:57

right then they own you

0:33:59

so so if you're looking for sovereignty

0:34:02

and freedom or a rational path forward

0:34:05

where you get a choice then you need to

0:34:09

actually put your property beyond the

0:34:12

reach of a government that might be

0:34:14

irrational

0:34:15

or uh that might be capricious and you

0:34:19

need to put it beyond the reach of a

0:34:21

corporation that might be influenced by

0:34:23

said government

0:34:25

do you think though even with Bitcoin so

0:34:26

as I as I run this experiment in my own

0:34:30

I always come down to but the government

0:34:32

could still say if you own Bitcoin

0:34:35

you're going to pay this tax and at that

0:34:38

point I just have to leave the [ __ ]

0:34:40

country I mean that seems like the only

0:34:41

solution like this ultimately does come

0:34:43

down to any government could act however

0:34:45

they want they can put whatever mandate

0:34:47

on you they want and I think part of

0:34:51

where people's the average person's

0:34:54

willingness to adopt Bitcoin comes down

0:34:56

to that thought of like Jesus man if the

0:34:59

government is coming after me and they

0:35:01

could

0:35:02

foreign

0:35:04

do I really want to flee like so I think

0:35:08

well like let's come back to that so

0:35:10

let's say that let's make this easier

0:35:12

what if you were in Zimbabwe right now

0:35:14

and you had a million dollars well it's

0:35:16

easy for me as an American to be like

0:35:18

yeah of course I'd flee Zimbabwe well

0:35:19

let me turn around why don't why don't

0:35:21

you just go it doesn't matter you're not

0:35:22

going to want to flee why don't you just

0:35:23

go ahead and invest it in the Town

0:35:25

Square in the middle of a village in

0:35:26

Zimbabwe

0:35:28

I mean the point because that definitely

0:35:30

does feel riskier I'm now I'm you know

0:35:34

gluing something down so I'll give you

0:35:36

even in my own life in fact I'll be like

0:35:38

why don't we just Why Don't We sync you

0:35:40

up to your knees in concrete in the Town

0:35:41

Square in Zimbabwe I mean while we're on

0:35:43

that suburb the point really is

0:35:48

you have a physical presence in this

0:35:51

world and so ultimately maybe they won't

0:35:54

let you out through the airport right

0:35:56

what if I just tell you I'm going to

0:35:57

murder you next Monday will you leave

0:36:00

will you stay right maybe you can't

0:36:02

leave right but the point is is

0:36:06

um there are a whole set of decisions

0:36:08

you can make in life where you don't

0:36:09

have the choice

0:36:11

if you make the decision to invest your

0:36:13

family's life savings in a building in a

0:36:16

country in Africa run by a dictator

0:36:19

you have given up the option

0:36:23

to live in Europe you've given up the

0:36:25

option to leave you've got the option to

0:36:27

do anything so the question really is

0:36:31

do you want the option or do you want to

0:36:33

give up the option because one is the

0:36:35

choice of death the other is a choice of

0:36:37

Life there is no guarantee if you leave

0:36:40

Africa and come to the US it seems like

0:36:42

it's pretty obvious to me like the truth

0:36:43

is everybody in the world would leave a

0:36:45

weak country and come to a strong

0:36:47

country everybody that's why we have a

0:36:49

border issue right everybody wants to be

0:36:51

in America so that's not a hard sell if

0:36:54

you come back to the issue of well I'm

0:36:56

an entitled American will I ever want to

0:36:58

leave America maybe you won't but the

0:37:01

point there is

0:37:02

if you had a choice between being rich

0:37:05

and living in Texas or being destitute

0:37:08

and living in California

0:37:11

would you cling to California and be

0:37:13

destitute or would you be rich and live

0:37:15

in Texas because that doesn't seem so

0:37:17

controversial either

0:37:19

it seems pretty obvious that if you can

0:37:21

go to one state where you can live

0:37:23

happily of what if I told you you're

0:37:25

going to be locked in your bedroom for

0:37:26

the next decade if you live in one state

0:37:29

and you're going to starve to death or

0:37:31

you can move to another state and you

0:37:33

can live a normal life

0:37:35

you're like well

0:37:37

isn't it obvious that you would like the

0:37:40

option to live in the place that will

0:37:43

allow you to breed the air freely and

0:37:45

conduct your business

0:37:47

right when when one place says you can't

0:37:49

sit at dinner with your family and the

0:37:52

other place says you can have dinner

0:37:53

with your family you're going to want to

0:37:55

leave from point A to point B so you

0:37:58

won't be able to do it

0:38:00

if your property is fixed

0:38:03

right I mean a lot of people a lot of

0:38:05

Jews died in Nazi Germany in the 30s

0:38:08

because their property was fixed in

0:38:10

Germany they didn't want to leave and

0:38:12

they got trapped there if their property

0:38:14

had been in a crypto asset like Bitcoin

0:38:17

and they could have left

0:38:19

they'd be alive

0:38:21

and and uh it's not that hard to make

0:38:24

that point and you can you can you can

0:38:26

illustrate that with every expatriate

0:38:28

and every immigrant uh fleeing you know

0:38:32

every war zone just go to

0:38:35

ask the Cubans right that fled Cuba and

0:38:38

came to Florida you know after Castro

0:38:41

came to power

0:38:42

about what they lost and how they feel

0:38:44

about it

0:38:46

so my point really is you can't fix the

0:38:49

political problem in a country like

0:38:51

Zimbabwe has been getting squeezed

0:38:53

progressively for the past 50 years

0:38:56

and Cuba is the same way you might not

0:38:59

be able to change an entire regime but

0:39:02

you do have a choice as to whether or

0:39:05

not you will uh you will commit yourself

0:39:09

or allow yourself to be owned by the

0:39:12

regime and when you actually choose to

0:39:15

put money like for example when you

0:39:17

choose to save your money in the peso

0:39:20

you accept the inflation of the peso

0:39:22

would you take all your money right now

0:39:24

sell the dollars and go buy Zimbabwe

0:39:27

currency would you do that

0:39:29

probably not right it'd be seemed pretty

0:39:32

foolish would you take everything you

0:39:34

own would you take your family and would

0:39:36

you ship them to a hostile Nation would

0:39:38

you move everybody to North Korea no

0:39:40

probably not

0:39:42

but I mean it's it's such a silly

0:39:44

observation it it kind of illustrates

0:39:46

the point right now you have a choice as

0:39:50

to where you put yourself physically and

0:39:53

maybe you've decided physically the

0:39:55

safest places the U.S now you've got to

0:39:57

choose the state now you've got to

0:39:58

choose the city now you've got to choose

0:40:00

the house

0:40:01

you also have a choice of as to where

0:40:04

you put yourself economically your

0:40:07

wealth your balance sheet if you choose

0:40:09

the dollar you're losing seven to twenty

0:40:11

percent a year if you lose the peso

0:40:13

you're losing 50 a year if you choose

0:40:16

the Bolivar you're losing 95 percent of

0:40:19

it a year you have that choice and third

0:40:22

you have a choice as to where you put

0:40:24

your livelihood

0:40:25

you can choose to work as a YouTube

0:40:28

streamer you know what you depend upon

0:40:31

YouTube If you say something that causes

0:40:33

YouTube to rip your channel off your

0:40:35

livelihood goes to zero so if you choose

0:40:38

to make your livelihood on YouTube you

0:40:40

should pay attention to their policies

0:40:41

and act accordingly if your livelihood

0:40:44

is a hot dog stand in Beijing

0:40:47

active if your livelihood is in Moscow

0:40:49

downtown

0:40:50

think about the Russian policy you act

0:40:53

accordingly everybody has a choice as to

0:40:56

where they will place their livelihood

0:40:58

what Corporation they'll be dependent

0:41:00

upon what regulator they will be

0:41:01

dependent upon what government they will

0:41:03

be dependent upon

0:41:05

right you have a lot of choices today

0:41:08

just be rational you I can't fix you

0:41:12

know all of these problems in the world

0:41:14

all I can do is say some places

0:41:17

are more permissive than others on the

0:41:20

margin I would guess that your odds of

0:41:22

being able to operate your business in

0:41:25

in the face of a potential pandemic or

0:41:27

higher in Texas than they are in certain

0:41:30

left-leaning States

0:41:32

on the margin Florida probably higher or

0:41:35

if the if the governor says I'm never

0:41:37

going to shut down a business you have a

0:41:39

right to work

0:41:40

probably you have a higher right there

0:41:41

so you get to choose but that changes

0:41:44

every month and every year right

0:41:46

so public policy is changing economic

0:41:49

policy is changing one thing is clear

0:41:50

though

0:41:52

if you put your money in Gold it'll

0:41:54

probably be seized by the by the

0:41:57

counterparty and if it isn't seized

0:41:59

you're going to lose half of it every 30

0:42:01

years

0:42:02

if you put your money in a currency

0:42:04

you're going to lose half of it every

0:42:05

five to ten years if you put your money

0:42:07

into a weak currency you lose half of it

0:42:09

every five to ten months

0:42:11

if you put your money into an equity

0:42:14

you're going to have to trust the

0:42:16

management team but the management team

0:42:18

is going to dilute you in their in their

0:42:20

pursuit of their plans and strategies

0:42:24

if the equity is valued on cash flows

0:42:28

what if I gave you the most profitable

0:42:29

company in Zimbabwe right now

0:42:32

like how much is the equity worth over

0:42:34

the next decade what are the cash flows

0:42:36

worth for a company that generates

0:42:39

Zimbabwe dollars for the next decade if

0:42:41

the dollar crashes in Zimbabwe so you

0:42:44

have to be aware that you are trusting

0:42:47

your balance sheet

0:42:49

to some macroeconomic Force and and

0:42:54

you're putting yourself in that frame of

0:42:55

reference

0:42:57

you're trusting your p l to a different

0:42:59

set of macronomic forces

0:43:02

right you're a Chinese company and you

0:43:04

do work in China and you sell food in

0:43:06

China but you save in the US dollar you

0:43:08

you have dollar exposure

0:43:10

and then you have Chinese Chinese

0:43:13

commercial exposure

0:43:15

when you're a Saudi Arabian oil company

0:43:18

you have you're selling uh oil and so

0:43:22

you have that business energy exposure

0:43:25

but then you're saving in dollars you

0:43:27

have that exposure and you can't easily

0:43:29

move the oil fields out of the country

0:43:31

you're in so you have that political

0:43:33

exposure

0:43:34

so ultimately I think the lesson I mean

0:43:38

the big idea of the last two years is

0:43:40

every individual needs to become macro

0:43:44

economically sophisticated and

0:43:46

politically sophisticated if you ran a

0:43:49

yoga studio in New York and you didn't

0:43:52

care about politics and you didn't care

0:43:54

about macroeconomics and you thought you

0:43:55

could ignore that and just study yoga

0:43:57

well you had a rude awakening right

0:44:00

when the mayor decides that it's illegal

0:44:03

to sell yoga Services you know in your

0:44:06

studio then uh then you realize that it

0:44:09

probably matters

0:44:10

what the politicians think

0:44:13

so I would say today everybody needs to

0:44:15

understand money

0:44:17

because they need to understand how to

0:44:18

protect their balance sheet they need to

0:44:20

understand property rights you may not

0:44:23

have property or you don't have property

0:44:25

rights in North Korea and Cuba you can't

0:44:27

own property but if you happen to own a

0:44:29

piece of pro you know do you have

0:44:31

property rights if you own a Coal Field

0:44:34

Maybe not maybe it's illegal to actually

0:44:36

uh mine for coal do you own natural gas

0:44:40

rights

0:44:41

maybe it's illegal to run a pipeline to

0:44:44

your natural gas field maybe you don't

0:44:46

maybe you do right so you need to

0:44:49

understand

0:44:50

do you have property and what is the

0:44:53

exposure of the property politically

0:44:56

to the jurisdiction where you have Nexus

0:44:59

and uh I want to start once you

0:45:02

understand that you make a rational

0:45:03

decision with your life and your

0:45:05

family's future decide where you look at

0:45:07

your family where you will locate your

0:45:09

business where you will locate your

0:45:11

balance sheet and then you probably want

0:45:13

to pick up the paper and read the news

0:45:14

because you can have regime change

0:45:17

right if the if the governor of a

0:45:19

certain state says I disagree 180

0:45:22

degrees with the former Governor and I'm

0:45:24

going to pursue the opposite strategy

0:45:27

how long is that Governor going to be in

0:45:29

power and how much power do they have

0:45:30

and at some point the federal government

0:45:32

May override the state government

0:45:35

right I mean the federal government will

0:45:37

act in certain jurisdictions it doesn't

0:45:39

matter what the governor thinks about

0:45:41

maybe drilling for for gas on on land

0:45:45

maybe it matters like the governor can't

0:45:48

mandate a nuclear power plant if the

0:45:52

federal government says you can't have

0:45:54

so you need to be aware of of how all

0:45:58

these things interact as you make a

0:46:00

decision about your life

0:46:02

all right I want to sum up uh what

0:46:04

you've been saying in slightly different

0:46:05

words and tell me if I'm understanding

0:46:07

all of this because every time I

0:46:09

research you every time I talk to you I

0:46:11

realize that I feel like I understand

0:46:13

everything you're saying and then I'll

0:46:15

spend you know eight more hours with you

0:46:17

and I learned that much and then I

0:46:19

learned this much more and it really

0:46:20

does impact how I view uh

0:46:24

Bitcoin for sure money definitely and

0:46:27

then the idea that I think you're trying

0:46:30

to get across between The Words which is

0:46:34

um sovereignty and Mobility so

0:46:38

for the first time in my life

0:46:41

I feel like we're entering a period of

0:46:45

uh political volatility that finally has

0:46:49

me going I don't like the idea of being

0:46:52

grounded in any one area by the things

0:46:55

that I own so I'm in the process now of

0:46:57

selling uh my homes and

0:47:01

I never thought that I would get there

0:47:04

but I happened to be in California where

0:47:06

they take a very aggressive posture uh

0:47:09

and so that clicked over for me now

0:47:13

hearing you talk just now the ability to

0:47:16

get my because right now uh a

0:47:19

significant portion of my net worth is

0:47:20

tied up in real estate and that was me

0:47:23

growing up that's where you wanted your

0:47:25

money so that was just like a sort of

0:47:27

default response

0:47:29

so tied up in real estate but to your

0:47:31

point I can't move those the blocks of

0:47:34

Los Angeles to somewhere with more

0:47:36

favorable

0:47:38

um let's say entrepreneurial leanings so

0:47:40

I'm I have a real grounding here

0:47:42

certainly with that money but I could

0:47:43

put that money in a form so one I want

0:47:46

to remind everybody what we said at the

0:47:47

beginning so money is you transferring

0:47:49

your your time your energy but also your

0:47:52

efficiency your intelligence into a

0:47:56

thing that thing could be money or in

0:47:57

this case I have a lot of for me a lot

0:48:00

of that tied up into physical property

0:48:02

and so okay we monetized real estate we

0:48:06

monetize real estate when we devalue the

0:48:09

currency and so your property becomes

0:48:11

your store of value money right which

0:48:14

getting everybody to understand that the

0:48:17

more knowledgeable somebody is about

0:48:18

money the more they are constantly

0:48:19

looking for where can I put this money

0:48:21

that it will stay

0:48:22

it will retain the purchasing power that

0:48:25

it has or that its purchasing power will

0:48:27

go up now I live 40 years of my life

0:48:29

without ever asking that question

0:48:31

because all I ever thought about was

0:48:33

generate money whether that was generate

0:48:36

a paycheck or whether that was build

0:48:37

equity in the company that I would

0:48:39

ultimately sell but once I sold a

0:48:41

company and all of a sudden had you know

0:48:43

a very substantial amount of money

0:48:45

all of a sudden I had to understand

0:48:46

investing it was a real shock to my

0:48:49

system so just understanding that you're

0:48:50

putting your money into something that

0:48:52

you hope will retain its value or grow

0:48:53

its value over time but there are

0:48:55

massive complexities so if you're living

0:48:57

in a house and you're thinking that it's

0:48:58

doing that you're actually paying a lot

0:49:00

more money for that privilege than you

0:49:02

think so that's certainly something to

0:49:04

contemplate but anyway by looking at

0:49:07

where else I could put it you start

0:49:09

asking a series of very interesting

0:49:11

questions now one of the more

0:49:12

interesting collisions with you that I

0:49:14

think is between you and Peter Schiff

0:49:17

but not as Peter Schiff relates to Gold

0:49:19

because as you very aptly pointed out he

0:49:22

owns like five percent of his portfolios

0:49:23

in Gold he obviously doesn't have a real

0:49:25

big belief in that and the parsity does

0:49:26

have in Gold he has in gold miners who

0:49:29

are actively shorting gold cool but what

0:49:33

I think he represents in Jesus I'm

0:49:35

speaking for somebody I've never met or

0:49:36

spoken to but what I think he represents

0:49:40

um we'll call it something more like Ray

0:49:42

dalio's idea of diversification based on

0:49:45

like what's happening and he's got the

0:49:46

idea of an all-weather portfolio so

0:49:50

it seems like the what you represent to

0:49:53

me is somebody who has tremendous

0:49:56

conviction possibly a lot of risk

0:49:58

tolerance which is something that I want

0:50:00

to better understand about you and

0:50:02

everybody else myself included is more

0:50:05

like ah I'm not sure I don't know so I

0:50:09

have what many would consider an

0:50:11

irresponsible amount of amount of my net

0:50:13

worth in Bitcoin

0:50:15

um but I put in as much as I was willing

0:50:17

to lose

0:50:18

and so but I I put in over about a year

0:50:21

a dollar cost averaged in over a year

0:50:23

and then said cool that's all that I'm

0:50:25

gonna do so even though the price has

0:50:27

gone down I'm not buying more as of

0:50:29

right now I just want to make the point

0:50:31

like I I think the real issue here is

0:50:34

do you have an engineering mentality and

0:50:38

reason from first principles

0:50:42

are you are you simply

0:50:46

um complying with the Norms of society

0:50:49

and conventional wisdom that you grew up

0:50:53

with people say things and they repeat

0:50:56

these bromides and

0:50:59

and they give you a simple rule of thumb

0:51:01

like oh the rule of thumb is 60 40 stock

0:51:05

Bond portfolio

0:51:07

or the rule of thumb is stay Diversified

0:51:10

you know or the rule of thumb is you

0:51:14

you know uh take uh buy the biggest

0:51:17

house you can and get the biggest

0:51:19

mortgage and you'll be fine

0:51:21

okay well those are all fine assuming

0:51:26

that you have equilibrium and you and

0:51:30

you don't have uh um a radical State

0:51:34

change for example that that all those

0:51:37

rules of thumb don't they don't work if

0:51:39

you're a Jew in Nazi Germany in the 30s

0:51:42

right buying a house to store about

0:51:45

doesn't work right trusting the

0:51:47

government how about trust the

0:51:49

government keep your nose clean that

0:51:50

doesn't work

0:51:51

right buying stocks stocks that's an

0:51:55

interesting thing in the U.S when the

0:51:58

money supply expands at seven percent a

0:52:00

do you think stocks work if you bought

0:52:02

stocks in Zimbabwe or stocks in Cuba or

0:52:06

stocks in North Korea or stocks in

0:52:08

Argentina

0:52:10

or stocks fill in the blank they don't

0:52:13

work what happens when the government

0:52:15

crashes you think stocks work in Sri

0:52:17

Lanka

0:52:18

right now how does stocks work in Russia

0:52:22

in the 90s well the entire currency

0:52:24

collapsed the government collapsed

0:52:26

everybody lost everything

0:52:29

so you know diversification

0:52:32

diversification doesn't work when every

0:52:36

single thing you own your portfolio is

0:52:38

correlated for example

0:52:40

you can buy any company you can buy any

0:52:43

company you want in in Germany in 1944.

0:52:47

how should diversification gonna work

0:52:50

right how about just how about buy

0:52:52

anything you want in the city I'm about

0:52:54

to drop a nuclear bomb on how's that

0:52:55

going to work right

0:52:57

so diversification is a bromide

0:53:00

stocks bonds or a bromide real estate as

0:53:04

monetizable property it's a bromide it

0:53:07

only works if you can trust what how's

0:53:10

it going to work when I actually get

0:53:12

elected mayor and I just seize your

0:53:15

entire property to make into a pet

0:53:17

hospital

0:53:18

for the good of the people

0:53:19

or how about this one

0:53:21

at what property tax rate if property

0:53:24

tax are are 20 basis points a year maybe

0:53:27

property is money what happens when

0:53:29

they're 200 basis points a year

0:53:31

property tax rate in Florida is two

0:53:34

percent a year

0:53:35

okay if if you're not a if you don't

0:53:38

have the homestead exemption and you're

0:53:39

not a citizen then that means you buy 10

0:53:42

million dollars worth of property you

0:53:43

pay 200 000 of tax then they actually

0:53:46

assess it up 15 a year so that means

0:53:49

that in 10 years the property is valued

0:53:52

at 30 million you owe 600 000 in tax in

0:53:56

the next five years you've lost all your

0:53:58

money

0:53:59

okay but I thought Florida was low tax

0:54:01

state huh I thought property was a good

0:54:04

investment well let's make it simpler

0:54:05

what if I make the tax rate five percent

0:54:07

a year

0:54:08

what if I make it 50 a year

0:54:12

what if so the point really is all of

0:54:15

these are simple rules of thumb that

0:54:17

allow people to not think for themself

0:54:20

you know you're on a ship the ship is

0:54:23

sinking there's 10 boats in front of you

0:54:25

one of the boats doesn't have a hole in

0:54:27

it the other three nine boats have holes

0:54:29

in them you're gonna put you got ten

0:54:31

members in your family are you going to

0:54:34

put one kid in each of the nine boats or

0:54:37

or the like or you're going to put

0:54:39

everybody in the boat that doesn't have

0:54:40

the hole in it okay so you come to that

0:54:43

level of conviction which is

0:54:44

intoxicating by the way it's not

0:54:46

conviction it's like it's not conviction

0:54:48

it's just rational thinking for yourself

0:54:50

are you moving your entire family to

0:54:53

Zimbabwe right now because

0:54:55

you know you have conviction

0:54:57

or let me reverse it why is it that you

0:55:00

don't move your entire family to

0:55:02

Zimbabwe sell all your stuff and buy the

0:55:04

Zimbabwe dollar why is it that you don't

0:55:07

do that

0:55:08

because because of conviction or just

0:55:10

because it seems quite obvious to you

0:55:12

that's not a good idea I won't say that

0:55:16

conviction is the when you don't do

0:55:18

something but when you go all in on

0:55:20

something I would say that does take

0:55:22

conviction now your conviction how many

0:55:24

chairs are you sitting on right now one

0:55:27

are you all in on the chair

0:55:29

yeah I'm all in on the chair

0:55:31

like like the point really is you put on

0:55:34

one pair of glasses you've got one pair

0:55:36

of of air pods right now you're looking

0:55:39

at me through one screen

0:55:41

you're using one microphone that's a one

0:55:44

microphone like you trust it

0:55:47

is that conviction seems kind of scary

0:55:49

why don't you diversify why don't you

0:55:51

use 10 microphones the point really is

0:55:53

things in your life do you drive in 10

0:55:56

cars at the same time or one car at one

0:55:58

time do you drive down one street aren't

0:56:01

you afraid that you're driving down one

0:56:03

Street

0:56:04

do you take a different way

0:56:06

you know I

0:56:08

so my point really is if you're an inch

0:56:11

you get a one airplane are you convicted

0:56:14

you put your entire family in the one

0:56:15

airplane aren't you afraid

0:56:18

ultimately

0:56:20

if you're a rational individual

0:56:22

do you use when you use knives do you

0:56:25

have copper knives wooden knives Steel

0:56:28

knives aluminum knives rubber band

0:56:31

knives Diamond knives because you're

0:56:34

afraid to commit to the right knife it's

0:56:37

a it's a tour

0:56:38

so ultimately

0:56:41

what I'm saying here is an engineer

0:56:42

would look at this and say I use glass

0:56:45

for my windows I don't use aluminum for

0:56:48

my windows because I can't see through

0:56:49

the aluminum right I use steel beams

0:56:54

people used to use wooden beams steel

0:56:56

beams work better right

0:56:59

I use copper for wires because

0:57:01

electricity goes through copper better I

0:57:03

don't use aluminum for wires

0:57:06

right am I am I a radical convicted

0:57:10

fanatic investor am I just like a

0:57:13

rational person that uses copper for

0:57:14

Waters because copper works better right

0:57:16

and my point here is

0:57:20

you live in a society and things are

0:57:23

going awry if if you did live in a

0:57:26

country and the food supply was cut off

0:57:29

the electricity got turned off the

0:57:31

currency collapsed and there are riots

0:57:33

in the streets

0:57:34

would you still just kind of hang out

0:57:37

and use the same rules of thumb you've

0:57:39

been using or or would you say I think

0:57:42

I'm going to exit via the airport where

0:57:44

there are no riots if I can get on that

0:57:47

plane and I'm gonna go somewhere else

0:57:49

because not because I'm convicted not

0:57:52

because I'm radical

0:57:54

not because I'm a risk taker

0:57:57

no I'm just going to do it because I'm

0:57:59

an intelligent human being and I noticed

0:58:01

that it's getting uncomfortable where I

0:58:04

am right now

0:58:05

and so that's the way I see this it is

0:58:08

it is utterly it's just thinking for

0:58:10

yourself

0:58:12

using reason your choices

0:58:14

you want to hold a billion dollars of

0:58:16

property in Zimbabwe or North Korea you

0:58:19

want to hold a billion dollars of

0:58:20

property in La you want to hold a

0:58:23

billion dollars of gold in a vault you

0:58:25

want to hold a billion dollars worth of

0:58:27

a stock in a Chinese company Alibaba

0:58:29

trading on the Shanghai stock exchange

0:58:33

subject to the Chinese government do you

0:58:37

bitcoin what do you want to hold right

0:58:40

why do you why do you feel that way

0:58:42

once you understand money you understand

0:58:44

Bitcoin is

0:58:47

engineered money and it's engineered

0:58:49

without defects

0:58:51

once you look at your life you realize

0:58:53

you've got a balance sheet you got to

0:58:55

actually allocate your your wealth to

0:58:58

portions of the balance sheet and

0:59:00

assumptions you used to be able to make

0:59:01

about bonds they don't work anymore

0:59:03

assumptions used to make about stocks

0:59:06

they don't work anymore assumptions are

0:59:08

made about property

0:59:09

you own a yoga studio I get elected

0:59:13

mayor and I tell you point blank I think

0:59:14

yoga is dangerous people should not be

0:59:16

able to do yoga it's abomination in the

0:59:18

eyes of God for the next decade you

0:59:20

still have the same view of your value

0:59:21

of your yoga studio

0:59:23

are you going to say maybe I can

0:59:25

repurpose it to something that's

0:59:26

politically correct

0:59:28

or you say maybe I'm just gonna like

0:59:31

sell it and go someplace where I'm less

0:59:33

likely to get canceled right as a

0:59:36

business

0:59:37

this is this is not radical conviction

0:59:40

right the people that you know we we

0:59:43

like to think the people that came to

0:59:44

the United States were crazy but but

0:59:47

they're not crazy the reason they came

0:59:50

to the U.S is because they were the

0:59:52

wrong religion or the wrong ethnic group

0:59:54

in a country that had uh an encroaching

0:59:59

authoritarian government

1:00:01

and at some point the Catholics decided

1:00:03

the Protestants aren't allowed to own

1:00:05

property or live and at some point the

1:00:07

Protestants decided Catholics they can't

1:00:10

own property and if it turns out that

1:00:13

you happen to be a Catholic you're going

1:00:14

to be drawn and quartered

1:00:16

right the skin will be flayed off your

1:00:19

you know my family came from Lucerne

1:00:21

Switzerland in 1730 and they were

1:00:23

palentines they were Swiss Protestants

1:00:25

okay why would you get on a wooden ship

1:00:28

travel for 12 weeks risk five percent

1:00:30

chance of death to get out of your

1:00:32

hometown and answer is because it was a

1:00:34

certain death a certain slow death if I

1:00:38

stuck around

1:00:39

and that is that is the story of America

1:00:42

for hundreds of years Quakers

1:00:45

Protestants Catholics you know

1:00:48

Mennonites name it every sect was

1:00:52

leaving and emigrating because the life

1:00:54

was hopeless where they stayed

1:00:57

and I don't know I call that radical

1:01:00

conviction as much as I would just say

1:01:03

at some point they realized that it was

1:01:06

riskier to stand where they are than it

1:01:08

is to move somewhere else

1:01:11

and if if I look at Bitcoin I I'm not

1:01:14

going to say

1:01:16

well let me say it this way

1:01:18

if you're in a city in the middle of

1:01:20

Africa taken over by a dictator who's

1:01:22

going to murder everybody next Tuesday

1:01:25

I would say convert all your wealth to

1:01:27

bitcoin and leave

1:01:30

if you happen to live in Florida or

1:01:33

Texas and you've got a comfortable life

1:01:35

and family and you expect to be there

1:01:37

for the next 30 Years and you want to

1:01:39

own some land a building

1:01:41

you know a restaurant and some Bitcoin I

1:01:44

say okay Diversified portfolio I guess

1:01:47

that's fine for you

1:01:48

and if you're somewhere else where you

1:01:52

know if you're sitting in a country

1:01:53

where the bank is about to freeze your

1:01:55

assets and devalue them ten to one and

1:01:57

trickle them back to you over the next

1:01:59

20 years I would say on the margin yeah

1:02:01

you probably should convert them all to

1:02:03

bitcoin and get them out of a custodian

1:02:05

because because the volatility of

1:02:09

Bitcoin and the risk of Bitcoin is a lot

1:02:11

less than the risk of trusting the bank

1:02:12

and trusting the government and trusting

1:02:14

the local currency

1:02:15

so ultimately everyone's got to decide

1:02:17

just how risky is their macroeconomic

1:02:20

situation

1:02:22

and if you happen to be wealthy living

1:02:24

in Manhattan and you're living off a

1:02:26

trust fund you might not have a problem

1:02:28

you might think it's okay

1:02:31

but you know I ask people to flood Cuba

1:02:34

or North Korea how okay it was right

1:02:38

there's everybody's got to make their

1:02:40

decision

1:02:41

the lucky thing is you have an option

1:02:44

today you have an option 30 years ago 40

1:02:47

years ago you didn't have an option to

1:02:49

move all of your wealth onto a crypto

1:02:52

asset Network

1:02:53

and what Bitcoin represents is hope it's

1:02:56

it's hope for a refugee that's going to

1:02:59

flee a hostile regime a hostile banking

1:03:03

system a hostile environment and and uh

1:03:06

if you're one of the three or four

1:03:08

billion people that has no hope

1:03:10

otherwise then for you it's really uh

1:03:13

egalitarian you know utilitarian

1:03:16

entitlement

1:03:18

for people that are rich in the western

1:03:20

world it's just an investment option for

1:03:23

them until they get sensitized to this

1:03:26

issue and the more you get sensitized

1:03:28

then you really then you start to

1:03:30

realize that it's an it's a moral

1:03:32

imperative

1:03:33

even if not for you maybe you're rich

1:03:36

and safe

1:03:38

it's a moral imperative for you to

1:03:40

support it

1:03:41

for them for the for people that are in

1:03:44

Africa or South America or or fleeing

1:03:47

from a war zone

1:03:49

or fleeing from a hostile regime that's

1:03:52

going to confiscate 20 30 40 percent of

1:03:54

their property every year forever so

1:03:57

even if you don't think you need it in

1:04:00

order to protect your family for the

1:04:02

next 30 Years

1:04:04

seems to me like you might want to

1:04:06

support it just because it's the right

1:04:08

thing for Humanity and that's where I

1:04:10

come down on this situation

1:04:12

covet hits and I'm like whoa the

1:04:15

monetary system is blowing up I'm super

1:04:18

scared for other people that the

1:04:21

basically they have no sense of how to

1:04:23

invest or if inflation is going to go

1:04:26

crazy like how to protect against that

1:04:28

and so I start bringing on financial

1:04:29

experts and none of them could talk at

1:04:32

the street level about like what does

1:04:33

the guy do that's making 52 000 a year

1:04:36

what does that guy do and none of them

1:04:38

had an answer and then I come across you

1:04:41

and you've got this idea that we're

1:04:43

having a once in a thousand year

1:04:45

opportunity with Bitcoin and I'm like

1:04:48

I've got to get people to understand how

1:04:51

you have come to that how you have come

1:04:53

to that conclusion through first

1:04:55

principles and then like we can get to

1:04:57

sort of the what they should do so walk

1:05:00

through how you go from that sort of

1:05:02

early tweet that you just sent off as a

1:05:04

whatever saying you know Bitcoin is

1:05:06

never going to be anything to like whoa

1:05:08

this is real and as a person and as the

1:05:12

CEO of a company I'm going going all in

1:05:13

how does that change happen

1:05:15

well the catalytic event is uh the

1:05:19

pandemic and the events that took place

1:05:22

in March of 2020

1:05:23

and what you saw was Main Street shut

1:05:27

it literally shut down and came to a

1:05:30

grinding Halt and Wall Street had an

1:05:33

initial panic and a rapid recovery of

1:05:35

v-shaped recovery and so we put those

1:05:37

two together you had an L shape recovery

1:05:40

Main Street just shut down

1:05:42

and then you had a v-shape recovery and

1:05:45

we call that a k but what we but if you

1:05:48

decompose it and I was very sensitive to

1:05:50

it because on one hand in my personal

1:05:53

life I'm an investor

1:05:55

and in my public life I run a a Main

1:05:59

Street company I run a software company

1:06:01

that has people that that manufactures

1:06:03

software that does things

1:06:07

um what I saw was if you had um

1:06:12

if you had a large portfolio of stocks

1:06:15

or assets and you went into this

1:06:18

pandemic uh after the FED uh ended up

1:06:21

expanding the money supply with the

1:06:23

interest rates going to zero and the

1:06:25

expansion of the M2 monetary base the

1:06:28

money base

1:06:29

you found that you were actually 25 30

1:06:31

wealthy or doing nothing

1:06:35

you could have done nothing the entire

1:06:37

year as long as the only mistake you

1:06:39

could have made is do something right if

1:06:41

you if you had a billion dollars and you

1:06:43

did nothing for the entire year you had

1:06:46

1.3 billion dollars at the end of the

1:06:49

on the other hand if you had a Main

1:06:51

Street company and you're generating

1:06:54

let's say a hundred million dollars a

1:06:57

year in cash flow and you're valued at a

1:06:59

billion

1:07:00

because of the cash flow you would have

1:07:03

to be generating a hundred and thirty

1:07:05

million

1:07:07

aft after a year to be valued the same

1:07:10

because the value uh the assets that the

1:07:14

money buy is is being devalued by 30 if

1:07:18

the currency is devalued at some rate

1:07:21

and you know the money supply expanded

1:07:23

to 24 last year so you could use that as

1:07:26

your metric or you could use the S P

1:07:28

500's return as another metric but

1:07:31

clearly the currency devalued which

1:07:35

means that if you're a Main Street

1:07:37

company you had to work 20 percent

1:07:38

harder to get nothing and if you're a

1:07:41

Wall Street company you had to work you

1:07:44

had to do nothing to get 20 percent

1:07:46

better

1:07:46

and so what I saw was a shift in balance

1:07:50

of power you know and a shift in in

1:07:52

wealth and it was pretty disturbing to

1:07:55

me too

1:07:56

you know it's like you don't want to be

1:07:59

uh the dentist working for a fixed

1:08:01

amount of money that's getting 20 less

1:08:04

valuable every year

1:08:05

so the average person I think struggles

1:08:07

with that because they're like well I'm

1:08:08

getting my stimulus check what do you

1:08:09

mean like how is this going down Casa

1:08:11

breads the cost of bread I'm all good

1:08:14

I think there are some fundamental uh

1:08:17

misnomers or or

1:08:19

or um understandings of the world that

1:08:22

people miss and what and the most

1:08:24

pernicious one is the idea that

1:08:27

inflation equals CPI which is consumer

1:08:31

price index average [ __ ] the idea there

1:08:34

is a number that for inflation inflation

1:08:36

is only two percent or inflation is one

1:08:39

percent or inflation might be three

1:08:40

percent okay that's just a mistaken idea

1:08:45

um to what is inflation inflation is the

1:08:47

rate at which the things you want to buy

1:08:49

are going up in price

1:08:51

and what are the things you want to buy

1:08:52

well you might want to buy pizza you

1:08:54

might want to buy Netflix but you might

1:08:56

want to buy a house you might want to

1:08:57

rent a house but if you want to rent a

1:08:59

house it might not go up in price as

1:09:00

much as if you want to buy a house what

1:09:02

if you want to buy a house in the middle

1:09:03

of Manhattan it might go up in price

1:09:04

differently than a house in the middle

1:09:06

of Kansas what am I want to buy food

1:09:08

what if I want to buy energy

1:09:10

what if I want to buy a Picasso what if

1:09:12

I want to buy something really scarce

1:09:14

what if I want season tickets to you

1:09:16

know the baseball game

1:09:18

what if I want health care what if I

1:09:20

want early retirement they're all things

1:09:21

you can buy you can buy assets you can

1:09:25

luxury serve you want to buy a Rolex you

1:09:27

want to buy a Maserati or a Porsche

1:09:30

luxury goods or do you want to buy

1:09:32

commodity goods and there are some

1:09:34

things you don't have to pay for right

1:09:35

they're ad Finance right streaming

1:09:37

YouTube what's that what's the inflation

1:09:40

rate on streaming YouTube ad Finance

1:09:42

right so the inflation is is the cost of

1:09:47

stuff if the money

1:09:49

um Supply is expanding that means the

1:09:52

currency is devaluing

1:09:55

um in a closed system if we want to make

1:09:58

that simple

1:09:59

I live in a town and there's a thousand

1:10:01

houses and I and I double the amount of

1:10:04

currency in the town

1:10:07

and everybody wants a house what's the

1:10:09

price of houses do right

1:10:11

if the only thing I can buy is a house

1:10:13

and if I double the amount of currency

1:10:15

then the price of the house must go up

1:10:18

probably go up by two but but maybe not

1:10:20

exactly by two but it goes up if I

1:10:22

increase the amount of money if I get if

1:10:24

I raise everybody's salary by a factor

1:10:25

of 10

1:10:27

and I keep the number of houses constant

1:10:30

one might presume that the price of

1:10:33

houses will go up how will inflation

1:10:35

actually take place well there's a

1:10:38

different coefficient for Price uh for

1:10:41

the price gradient or the change in

1:10:42

price for everything you might want to

1:10:44

buy and it's different at every point in

1:10:46

time so for example if I put you in

1:10:49

lockdown and I make it illegal to go to

1:10:51

the movies and I make it illegal to go

1:10:53

to a restaurant and the price of

1:10:55

restaurants and movie theaters aren't

1:10:56

going to go up

1:10:58

if I if I make it illegal to or

1:11:01

inappropriate to go on a cruise

1:11:04

and fly in an airplane then the price of

1:11:06

cruise tickets and movie theater tickets

1:11:09

and restaurants they just don't go up

1:11:11

because you can't buy them if you want

1:11:13

to there's no velocity on that money

1:11:15

okay what can you buy you can buy stocks

1:11:18

you can buy crypto

1:11:20

right so what you know what does go up

1:11:23

well if I give you a thousand dollars

1:11:24

and you can go and you can buy stocks

1:11:26

then the price of stocks go up

1:11:30

now what happens um what happens next

1:11:33

well so everybody gets locked into their

1:11:36

um apartment and they decide they really

1:11:38

want a house with grass

1:11:40

so what happened next well 12 weeks

1:11:43

after the lockdowns the price of like

1:11:45

Suburban housing went up and people

1:11:47

started trying to buy houses they said

1:11:49

this is unprecedented we've never had so

1:11:51

much demand for houses in the suburbs of

1:11:54

New York

1:11:55

well that's not a surprise

1:11:57

you know what if your choices if I close

1:12:00

the parks in the cities

1:12:02

and you know and and I close your office

1:12:06

then why wouldn't you move out into the

1:12:08

country and live at a house with green

1:12:10

grass right you're not the utility

1:12:12

you're not missing out on a restaurant

1:12:14

you're not missing out on a park you're

1:12:15

not missing out on your job so rational

1:12:18

human behavior causes people to take

1:12:20

their money and go buy things they want

1:12:23

and where do they buy them well um you

1:12:26

know Hampton's real estate went up in in

1:12:28

price 50 percent Palm Beach they go to

1:12:31

the places where they want to go uh did

1:12:34

the price of land in the middle of North

1:12:36

Dakota go up by 50 percent

1:12:39

not so much it's not you know it's not a

1:12:42

scarce desirable asset by people

1:12:45

stampeding

1:12:47

so um so what is inflation inflation is

1:12:51

a vector it's not a scalar a vector

1:12:53

means you can calculate for a thousand

1:12:56

different products a thousand different

1:12:57

numbers and they change every month so I

1:13:00

could give you a thousand different

1:13:02

numbers uh 12 different times a year and

1:13:06

it would be different in every city

1:13:07

everybody can figure out that in Minot

1:13:10

North Dakota it's different than

1:13:11

Manhattan and it's even different in

1:13:13

Manhattan than in Brooklyn and it's

1:13:15

different in Brooklyn than in Upstate

1:13:16

New York so inflation is varying by Time

1:13:20

by space and it's varying by every item

1:13:24

and if you want to calculate the

1:13:26

inflation index you have to construct a

1:13:29

market basket of goods and services and

1:13:32

assets that you would want to acquire

1:13:35

and then I can give you the rate at

1:13:37

which that market basket of goods and

1:13:39

services and assets is changing every

1:13:42

month or every week

1:13:45

and uh

1:13:47

of course that would be different for

1:13:49

every person

1:13:50

so what happened after the lockdowns

1:13:52

well we got hyperinflation in some

1:13:54

things bonds hyperinflated

1:13:56

cost of bonds doubled in three weeks

1:13:58

whoa that's hyperinflation equities

1:14:02

inflated you know they were up 40

1:14:04

percent you know year over year uh you

1:14:07

know cryptos inflated Bitcoin was up

1:14:10

three four hundred percent

1:14:12

so the cost of scarce art the Scott the

1:14:15

cost of luxury real estate all of that

1:14:17

stuff inflated you know or

1:14:20

hyper-inflated what didn't inflate

1:14:22

things that people can't buy

1:14:25

I know and yeah I can define a market I

1:14:28

could Define a Market Basket of things

1:14:29

that don't go up in price by definition

1:14:33

right if I Define a Market Basket of

1:14:35

Highly manufactured goods that have very

1:14:37

low variable cost

1:14:40

right like what's the price of your

1:14:42

streaming YouTube video or what's the

1:14:45

price of some manufactured box of

1:14:47

macaroni that's five percent food and 95

1:14:51

percent marketing

1:14:53

right I mean the more man if I spent two

1:14:56

billion dollars on a fat on a factory

1:14:58

to Stamp Out widgets that have a

1:15:01

variable cost of ten percent right then

1:15:03

inflate then I've already sunk the cost

1:15:05

in the factory those things don't

1:15:07

inflate at the same rate as

1:15:09

you know if there's only one Mona Lisa

1:15:12

in the world and if I increase the

1:15:14

amount of money in the world by a factor

1:15:16

of a hundred

1:15:18

don't you think that the value of the

1:15:20

Mona Lisa would go up assuming that lots

1:15:23

of wealthy people wanted it

1:15:25

and that that gets you to the right the

1:15:28

interesting theory of Economics right if

1:15:30

I want to really understand the anything

1:15:32

in the engineering world I need to use

1:15:34

vector vector calculus right or vector

1:15:37

math I would never use arithmetic you

1:15:40

cannot solve the problem of fluid

1:15:42

dynamics with the arithmetic you can't

1:15:44

design a boat

1:15:46

you can't design a plane you can't

1:15:48

design a nuclear reactor and you can't

1:15:49

design a bridge with the arithmetic well

1:15:53

a scalar like oh inflation is two

1:15:55

percent that's arithmetic

1:15:57

right you know adding it up right uh

1:16:01

Isaac Newton gave us the calculus of

1:16:03

variations you know and calculus in

1:16:06

general and pretty much every

1:16:08

sophisticated thing that flies or floats

1:16:12

you know it's all based upon calculus

1:16:15

and uh and uh you just can't solve the

1:16:18

problem without that math

1:16:22

that's the problem what is up my friend

1:16:24

Tom bilyu here and I have a big question

1:16:26

to ask you how would you rate your level

1:16:28

of personal discipline on a scale of one

1:16:30

to ten if your answer is anything less

1:16:32

than a ten I've got something cool for

1:16:34

you and let me tell you right now

1:16:35

discipline by its very nature means

1:16:37

compelling yourself to do difficult

1:16:39

things that are stressful boring which

1:16:42

is what kills most people or possibly

1:16:44

scary or even painful now here is the

1:16:46

thing achieving huge goals and

1:16:48

stretching to reach your potential

1:16:50

requires you to do those challenging

1:16:52

stressful things and to stick with them

1:16:53

even when it gets boring and it will get

1:16:56

boring building your levels of personal

1:16:58

discipline is not easy but let me tell

1:17:00

you it pays off in fact I will tell you

1:17:01

you're never going to achieve anything

1:17:03

meaningful unless you develop discipline

1:17:05

all right I've just released a class

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1:17:27

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1:17:29

okay so let's inflation is our problem

1:17:32

but we have the confounding variable of

1:17:35

the average person is being told by sort

1:17:37

of the mainstream media by the

1:17:39

government hey inflation's not a problem

1:17:40

they look at their basket of Netflix and

1:17:43

bread and whatever and it all seems fine

1:17:45

they're getting their stimulus checked

1:17:47

there's no worry but the reality of

1:17:49

inflation is completely different and

1:17:51

we're now seeing a break in the

1:17:52

narrative from the government saying

1:17:54

well actually inflation is you know

1:17:56

whatever twice what we thought it was

1:17:58

and that may be just the tip of an

1:17:59

iceberg that's coming so inflation is a

1:18:02

problem in in two ways one if you pour

1:18:04

money into the system inflation is going

1:18:06

to go up on a certain set of items and

1:18:09

then number two if you're confused about

1:18:11

what inflation is because it is not

1:18:12

simple arithmetic you're now paralyzed

1:18:14

especially when that's confounded by

1:18:16

marketing essentially

1:18:18

so cool so we've got inflation is sort

1:18:20

of problem number one you're you often

1:18:23

use the analogy of you know if you have

1:18:25

a boat that has a leak in it you've got

1:18:26

a real problem and if you know that

1:18:29

inflation at some level exists you've

1:18:31

already got a problem

1:18:32

so when did you begin to think

1:18:34

okay I've got this in fact what I'm

1:18:37

really the the part that I find so

1:18:39

intriguing about your story is when you

1:18:41

turn to Wall Street and we're like I

1:18:43

have a profitable company it is wildly

1:18:45

profitable

1:18:46

and yet Wall Street does not like it

1:18:48

dear Wall Street why do you not like my

1:18:51

company and the answer to this is so

1:18:53

revealing

1:18:54

yeah the company was valued at like one

1:18:56

times Revenue plus uh cash

1:18:59

and uh I said well I have I have 500

1:19:02

million in cash why don't we get more

1:19:05

credit and the answer is Cash is trash

1:19:08

like it's Ray dalio's quote cash is

1:19:11

trash well why is Cash trash well if the

1:19:14

money supply is expanding at seven

1:19:16

percent a year then then the risk-free

1:19:18

hurdle rate is seven percent if you

1:19:20

don't generate more than seven percent

1:19:21

yield on your cash then it's devaluing

1:19:24

so from 2010 to 2020 the money supply

1:19:29

expanded is seven percent

1:19:30

so all the cash you're holding is losing

1:19:33

seven percent of its value

1:19:36

um assume you have a zero percent

1:19:37

interest rate or zero yield on the cash

1:19:40

so you can imagine the traditional world

1:19:43

you invest your cash at three percent

1:19:45

treasury yields and you get a minus

1:19:46

seven and it's like a minus four percent

1:19:48

and divide four into seventy two and

1:19:51

you know and somewhere 15 20 years out

1:19:55

you're going to lose half of the

1:19:56

shareholder value in the treasury if you

1:19:58

do that

1:20:00

people might hold their nose but after

1:20:02

March of 2000 the money supply is

1:20:05

expanding at 24 the interest rate zero

1:20:08

so now you have to put a forecast in

1:20:11

place at what rate will the the money

1:20:13

supply expand if it expands it 20 a year

1:20:16

and you're going to generate zero in

1:20:18

treasury yield then you're looking at

1:20:22

cutting your treasury purchasing power

1:20:24

in half in three and a half years whoa

1:20:26

okay now that's not trivial so you have

1:20:31

to find a way if you're gonna if you're

1:20:33

gonna have assets to get over the hurdle

1:20:35

rate another way to say it is

1:20:37

I have to invest it in a strategy which

1:20:40

is going to appreciate faster than the

1:20:42

money uh is devalued

1:20:45

if the money is devalued it's seven

1:20:47

percent a year then the S P 500 Index

1:20:50

better yield nine or ten percent if it

1:20:52

yields 10 percent and the money devalues

1:20:54

at seven percent you're plus three you

1:20:56

can save money in an S P 500 Index Fund

1:21:00

you can't save money with bonds unless

1:21:03

unless you're buying bonds and the

1:21:05

interest rates keep getting uh reduced

1:21:08

if you if you bought a bond at four

1:21:10

percent yield and the interest rate got

1:21:11

taken down to three and a half the bond

1:21:13

uh trades up and when the interest rate

1:21:16

goes down to three it trades up again

1:21:17

and when it goes down to two and a half

1:21:18

the trades up again when the bond rates

1:21:21

get or the Libor uh you know the

1:21:23

short-term Bond uh rate an interest rate

1:21:25

goes to zero you can't take it down

1:21:27

anymore so bonds won't hold value either

1:21:31

so now you're in a conundrum I have a

1:21:33

lot of assets but I'm not beating the

1:21:35

hurdle rate and the hurdle just tripled

1:21:38

this is the problem that a company

1:21:40

that's cash rich

1:21:42

uh has and it's a problem that anybody

1:21:45

that works for a salary has

1:21:47

which is I generally to cash and the cat

1:21:51

the currency is being devalued uh every

1:21:53

year the real question is what's the

1:21:55

rate of which is devalued

1:21:57

and in that let's do the thought

1:21:59

experiment what if uh what if we didn't

1:22:01

print any more money

1:22:03

what if the inflation rate uh the

1:22:05

monetary inflation rate not the CPA eye

1:22:08

but what if the money expansion rate was

1:22:10

Zero in that case uh the currency is

1:22:14

also an asset and it's a store of value

1:22:17

and and a medium of exchange at the same

1:22:19

that's a complete uh Austrian economics

1:22:23

like deflationary uh economy where we

1:22:26

have call it hard money or sound money

1:22:28

the closest thing to that would be the

1:22:29

gold standard if the government said you

1:22:32

can exchange your money for gold at any

1:22:35

time and we'll keep gold equal to the

1:22:36

amount of money and we won't print any

1:22:38

more money

1:22:39

well that puts you on a hard money

1:22:41

standard

1:22:42

in that case you could just store your

1:22:45

money in a bank and it would be more

1:22:47

valuable in the future not less valuable

1:22:50

um when the government goes off the gold

1:22:52

standard and we went off the gold

1:22:54

standard explicitly in 1971

1:22:58

now the currency is losing some percent

1:23:01

of its purchasing power every year

1:23:03

because it's being inflated away and

1:23:05

what's the number well it was about

1:23:06

seven percent a year and now it's like

1:23:09

20 percent a year and 15 to 20 percent a

1:23:13

year you know you got to figure out is

1:23:15

it 15 20 or 25 but

1:23:17

if it's 15 to 20 the currency is

1:23:20

weakening one to two percent a month

1:23:21

when it gets to be 40 to 50 it's

1:23:24

collapsing that's Argentina

1:23:26

or worse so you've either got a country

1:23:28

where the currency is weakening or our

1:23:30

country where the the currency is

1:23:32

collapsing

1:23:33

when that happens

1:23:35

now you have a decomposition the money

1:23:39

is broken into two components you have a

1:23:41

currency component which you use as a

1:23:43

legal medium of exchange like the dollar

1:23:44

the Euro or the yen

1:23:47

or the remember

1:23:49

and then you have an asset component

1:23:52

which you use to store a value over the

1:23:54

over the long term

1:23:56

money uh or US Dollars have ceased to be

1:23:59

a store of value for at least the past

1:24:01

decade since the great financial crisis

1:24:03

so what people did was they stampeded

1:24:06

into ETFs and index funds

1:24:09

right and to a certain extent bonds

1:24:12

right how do you store your value over

1:24:14

the long term well if I if I take money

1:24:17

and I buy a mixture of stocks and bonds

1:24:20

that will store my value because if uh

1:24:23

if the economy is healthy the bonds the

1:24:25

stocks go up by 10 a year the s p does

1:24:28

and if the market uh the economy is not

1:24:31

healthy the FED will lower the interest

1:24:34

rates by 50 basis points and the bond

1:24:36

will trade up

1:24:38

and so that works for how long it works

1:24:40

and watch the interest rates for the

1:24:42

last decade it works until you crank the

1:24:44

interest rates down to zero

1:24:46

the it used to be overnight money was

1:24:48

550 basis points Tom

1:24:52

before the great financial crisis and

1:24:54

then they cranked it down from 550 to

1:24:56

500 to 450 to 400 to 350 to 300 to 250

1:25:00

to 200 to 150 to 100 to 50 to zero

1:25:05

and now we have uh you know the bankers

1:25:07

say I'm not even thinking about thinking

1:25:09

about raising interest rates so

1:25:12

that breaks bonds as a store of value

1:25:15

unless you go negative interest rates

1:25:17

and uh stocks stocks work except for the

1:25:21

fact that

1:25:22

you know

1:25:23

what stocks worked in the past decade

1:25:25

Apple Amazon Facebook Google a big tech

1:25:28

company that grows 20 a year Top Line

1:25:32

when Apple stopped growing 20 a year Top

1:25:34

Line they fixed it by taking on mass

1:25:36

amounts of debt buying their stock back

1:25:38

and leveraging up their eps

1:25:40

so so companies that grow faster than

1:25:44

the rate of monetary inflation faster

1:25:47

than the seven percent they could hold

1:25:48

value a company growing twenty percent

1:25:51

like Google Facebook or Amazon they all

1:25:53

hold value in fact they accrete value

1:25:56

why because 20 is more than seven right

1:25:59

so it's plus 13 a year right

1:26:04

um what how what happens to all those

1:26:06

all the other companies what which

1:26:08

companies in the S P 500 amounted to all

1:26:10

the indexes uh to all the gains it was

1:26:13

big Tech right Big Fang stocks were the

1:26:16

winners everybody else Treads water

1:26:18

because if you're growing at seven

1:26:20

percent and the money supply is is

1:26:22

collapsing at seven percent you're Net

1:26:26

and how else do you get around it well

1:26:28

you can go borrow a lot of money

1:26:30

leverage up buy back half your stock and

1:26:32

get your cash flow per share up

1:26:34

but what what happens when you fully

1:26:37

leverage which is like where they are

1:26:38

right now you can't do it anymore

1:26:40

so what's the problem right now the

1:26:44

problem today is

1:26:46

the currency is is being devaluated 20 a

1:26:49

year not seven percent a year right

1:26:52

that's I turned up the Heat and the

1:26:54

frying pan and the second problem is

1:26:58

some stocks could hope to grow 20

1:27:00

percent a year like the minority five

1:27:03

percent of them could grow twenty

1:27:05

percent a year for the past decade what

1:27:07

percentage of stocks can grow 30 percent

1:27:08

a year

1:27:10

because now you got to grow 30 or 35 a

1:27:12

year because the hurdle rate just jumped

1:27:14

now you're pushed out on the risk on the

1:27:17

risk uh curve here you got to take a

1:27:19

massive risk as a company to grow that

1:27:22

fast you got to do Acquisitions you

1:27:25

gotta you gotta burn the candle on both

1:27:27

ends you got to take on massive new

1:27:30

Leverage

1:27:31

this is squeezing value stocks don't

1:27:34

work right I mean it squeezes you out of

1:27:36

the value of stock trade because if the

1:27:38

company is reliable

1:27:40

and it's growing it's cash flows five

1:27:42

percent a year and the money supply is

1:27:43

expanding at twenty percent a year cash

1:27:45

is trash

1:27:47

back to my story right why is Cash trash

1:27:49

because I had a value stock with a lot

1:27:52

of cash and the money supply is

1:27:54

expanding looking from the point of an

1:27:56

investor they can invest in the S P 500

1:27:58

Index or the NASDAQ and that those were

1:28:01

all up like 40 percent year over year or

1:28:03

something

1:28:04

you know or they could hold cash and get

1:28:07

zero percent

1:28:08

nobody wants the whole cash and so they

1:28:11

might as well just take it and put it

1:28:12

into something else now long term you

1:28:16

can get a bump on equities uh when you

1:28:18

have a boost when interest rates get

1:28:20

spiked down you saw it when we flood the

1:28:22

market look with liquidity

1:28:24

initially that makes stocks go up but

1:28:27

let's take the example of Zimbabwe and

1:28:30

Argentina if I keep doing it for 10

1:28:32

years what happens to those stocks

1:28:35

they don't go up

1:28:37

right the problem over time is stocks

1:28:41

are valued based upon the discounted

1:28:43

value the cash flows or at least in part

1:28:46

and so if I give you a company

1:28:48

generating 100 million in cash every

1:28:50

year for the next decade but I tell you

1:28:51

they'll be 10 times as much money in the

1:28:53

economy in a decade that hundred million

1:28:56

dollars of cash will only be worth 10 1

1:28:58

10 as much in a decade so you the

1:29:02

discount rate is jumping which means the

1:29:05

value of the cash flows into the future

1:29:07

is collapsing

1:29:09

the road to serfdom is working

1:29:11

exponentially harder for a currency

1:29:13

growing exponentially weaker

1:29:16

and so how do you solve the problem

1:29:18

and the solution to the problem is you

1:29:21

convert your assets from a weak currency

1:29:24

that's inflating into a strong currency

1:29:27

or a strong asset if you will that is

1:29:30

deflating

1:29:32

right that the the simplest example is

1:29:36

I'm a wealthy business person in

1:29:38

Argentina and the peso is trading three

1:29:40

to the dollar three pesos to the dollar

1:29:42

and the year is 2003.

1:29:45

and now I can go forward and I tell you

1:29:47

well in the year 2020 the peso is going

1:29:50

to trade 150 to the Dollar on the on the

1:29:52

blue Market or the black market that's

1:29:54

going to be the real rate

1:29:56

so what's your best uh strategy work

1:29:59

hard invest it diversify into other

1:30:01

Argentine companies making pesos

1:30:04

no your best strategy is convert all

1:30:07

your existing Pesos into dollars and get

1:30:10

it out of the country

1:30:11

and your next best strategy is forward

1:30:13

Finance your cash flows

1:30:16

and convert those into Dollars get them

1:30:18

out of the country

1:30:19

and your next strategy is sell equity in

1:30:21

your ranch or your business in pesos in

1:30:24

2003 at three to one three pesos of the

1:30:27

dollar and then buy dollars because the

1:30:29

dollar is going to go up by a factor of

1:30:32

so what you're doing is you're financing

1:30:34

in a weak currency and then you're

1:30:36

converting into a strong currency and

1:30:39

that's pretty obvious if you lived in

1:30:41

Zimbabwe or if you lived Lebanon went

1:30:43

from 150 Lebanese uh Lira to 700 700 it

1:30:50

went from 1500 to 7500 overnight whoa so

1:30:54

it means you lost eighty percent of your

1:30:56

money if you had it in a Lebanese Bank

1:30:59

and so the answer of course is convert

1:31:02

your Lira while it's 1500 to the dollar

1:31:04

into Dollars before the devaluation

1:31:09

right now what can you do if you're a

1:31:11

modern business person right if I can't

1:31:14

convert to Dollars the next best thing

1:31:16

is buy something tangible that won't

1:31:17

lose 80 percent of its value overnight

1:31:20

buy a boat by land

1:31:24

traditionally people bought other

1:31:26

tangible assets gold right something

1:31:28

like that but if you buy an asset which

1:31:31

is valued based upon its expected future

1:31:33

cash flows that are in that collapsing

1:31:35

currency that doesn't work for you like

1:31:37

you could own every good business in in

1:31:41

Venezuela how's that going to help you

1:31:44

when the Venezuelan currency collapses

1:31:46

by a factor of a million it won't

1:31:50

okay so what's Bitcoin well Bitcoin is

1:31:53

the strongest asset the human race has

1:31:55

ever invented it's like gold with none

1:31:57

of the defects of gold so Define what

1:31:59

the defects are why why is it the

1:32:02

greatest

1:32:02

monetary invention

1:32:05

so I buy a million dollars of gold

1:32:10

um if the price goes up the gold miners

1:32:13

first of all the gold miner is going to

1:32:15

create more gold and dump it on the

1:32:16

market

1:32:17

if I could eliminate uh all gold mining

1:32:20

forever if I could wave a magic wand and

1:32:22

make it impossible to mining more gold

1:32:24

my million dollars of gold will hold

1:32:26

this value better because it'll be

1:32:28

scarce but gold miners are inflating the

1:32:31

value of the the supply of gold by at

1:32:33

least two percent a year or so and then

1:32:35

if the price doubles again investors

1:32:37

will invest in more gold miners and

1:32:40

they'll create more capacity to mine

1:32:41

coal so you'll create capacity to mine

1:32:44

gold you'll mine the Gold you'll crank

1:32:46

up the rate at which the gold mines

1:32:48

function

1:32:50

after that people with gold jewelry will

1:32:52

melt their jewelry down converted to

1:32:54

gold bullion and sell it right if the

1:32:56

price of gold went up by a factor of 20

1:32:57

you would be like converting all your

1:32:59

gold stuff into gold bullion because it

1:33:02

seems like a good idea they call it

1:33:04

scrap gold right

1:33:05

and then after that um Bankers will

1:33:08

issue gold warrants and gold and gold

1:33:10

paper and gold derivatives and they'll

1:33:13

sell them short without the gold because

1:33:15

they can speculate in it and they don't

1:33:17

have to have a one for one coverage of

1:33:20

gold to the gold derivatives and so

1:33:23

that's called hypothecation and

1:33:24

rehypothecation

1:33:26

okay if it keeps going up the

1:33:28

government's holding goal will start to

1:33:30

sell some of their goal to manipulate

1:33:31

the price down

1:33:33

right and all of these and if and

1:33:36

ultimately if it goes up enough someone

1:33:39

will Club you over the head and take

1:33:40

your gold or a hostile regime will take

1:33:42

your gold or a politician will pass a

1:33:45

law taxing your gold

1:33:47

right there's a there's a lot of ways

1:33:49

you lose gold because it's physical

1:33:52

how do you cure the problem

1:33:54

right I mean uh here's how you cure the

1:33:57

problem you make it impossible to mine

1:33:59

any more gold and then you make it

1:34:01

possible to take custody of your gold

1:34:03

personally off of the exchange or off of

1:34:05

the bank

1:34:06

so that way the bank can't hypothecate

1:34:08

it or re-hypothecate it miners can

1:34:10

inflate it investors can't create any

1:34:12

more gold miners and then you make it

1:34:14

possible to move it from here to

1:34:16

Switzerland or Singapore in an hour for

1:34:18

or for a nickel

1:34:20

and that way if you don't like your bank

1:34:22

or don't trust your bank if the state of

1:34:25

New York passes a law taxing it you move

1:34:27

it to the state of Wyoming

1:34:32

you know if the government passes the

1:34:32

law taxing you know the the ownership of

1:34:35

land in California you can't move the

1:34:38

land out of California can you

1:34:40

if you have a million dollars of gold in

1:34:42

a bank and in a vault in New York City

1:34:45

you know there's only a couple places

1:34:47

you can move it you can move it to

1:34:48

London if you have six months

1:34:51

okay so you're going to be subject to

1:34:53

the law of London or the law of of New

1:34:56

York can you actually move to your

1:34:59

favorite island or you know can you move

1:35:01

to the Cayman Islands and bury your gold

1:35:03

underneath your Hut in the Cayman

1:35:04

Islands and be safe about it not likely

1:35:08

can't even get it through the airport

1:35:10

right so so the problem with other

1:35:13

properties and gold is the simplest

1:35:16

example but the problem the the

1:35:18

challenge or the analogy holds with any

1:35:20

property

1:35:21

I give you a bunch of money and I tell

1:35:24

you you want to keep it and give it to

1:35:26

your grandchild

1:35:28

do you buy a building in Manhattan do

1:35:32

you buy a ranch in California do you buy

1:35:35

a stack of gold bars do you buy

1:35:38

shares in a company headquartered in San

1:35:41

Francisco

1:35:43

do you buy bonds issued by a government

1:35:46

or a company or do you buy Bitcoin

1:35:50

and you you can see the problem of

1:35:52

course is

1:35:54

the the debt is devaluing rapidly

1:35:58

the land in California can be taxed and

1:36:00

is not movable

1:36:01

you know uh the building in New York's

1:36:05

not going anywhere

1:36:06

it might be valuable to a rich person

1:36:08

that lives in New York what about a rich

1:36:10

person lives in Beijing do they want you

1:36:12

building in New York

1:36:14

how are you going to hide your building

1:36:16

right buildings get property taxed

1:36:19

there's a very famous story about you

1:36:22

know a bunch of luxury you know Yachts

1:36:24

sitting in Sardinian port and the locals

1:36:27

decided that that it wasn't fair that

1:36:30

all these uh people were rich people

1:36:32

were sitting on their yachts in the port

1:36:34

spending all this money but they weren't

1:36:36

paying enough taxes now they're putting

1:36:38

millions and millions of euros into the

1:36:40

economy

1:36:41

but they came up with the idea that they

1:36:44

were going to put a tax on the yacht on

1:36:46

the value of the yacht

1:36:47

and so they you know they passed a yacht

1:36:50

tax that would have cost people millions

1:36:53

or tens of millions of Euros if they

1:36:55

stayed in that port and uh everything

1:36:58

was happy and uh all the restaurateurs

1:37:01

and the hotelers and and and the

1:37:03

entertainment people and the port they

1:37:05

were all happy making tons of money off

1:37:06

the Yachts until the day

1:37:09

before the tax went into place and the

1:37:11

morning that the tax went into place the

1:37:14

port was empty and the economy died

1:37:17

every left

1:37:18

because Yachts are floating Capital it

1:37:21

just moves it's floating property right

1:37:23

so it's it's a very visible example

1:37:25

right why it's not that smart to put a

1:37:28

an unfair tax or an extreme tax on a

1:37:31

yacht if people can float the yacht to

1:37:34

the next Port you know 100 miles to the

1:37:36

left so

1:37:38

one would be discouraged from taxing

1:37:42

stuff that floats

1:37:44

on the other hand taxing a building

1:37:46

that's buried you know 100 feet down in

1:37:49

the Bedrock that's easier you can't move

1:37:51

the building so

1:37:53

Bitcoin represents the Apex property

1:37:56

rights of the human race

1:37:58

like I'm not mind you I'm not disputing

1:38:00

the ability or or the you know

1:38:02

legitimacy of a government to pass the

1:38:04

tax at the end of the day they can tax

1:38:06

your goal they can tax your stocks your

1:38:08

bonds your building yourself your income

1:38:10

whatever they want

1:38:12

but the point really is

1:38:15

you're a lot more likely to tax the

1:38:17

stuff that you walk past

1:38:19

you know every day on the way to work

1:38:22

and you're a lot and legitimately

1:38:26

you can move yourself and you can move

1:38:29

your property if it's crypto to another

1:38:32

jurisdiction but you can't legitimately

1:38:35

move a ranch in California so your

1:38:39

property rights are stronger and the

1:38:41

value of the property is higher

1:38:44

right you have a valuable thing in

1:38:46

Manhattan it's interesting to other

1:38:47

wealthy people in Manhattan but when you

1:38:49

have Bitcoin it's interesting that

1:38:50

wealthy people everywhere on Earth

1:38:53

right it's you can liquidate a billion

1:38:55

dollars of Bitcoin on the weekend in any

1:38:58

currency

1:38:59

you know any any time try liquidating a

1:39:02

billion dollar building

1:39:04

right that's three-year process right so

1:39:08

it's liquid it's fungible it's desirable

1:39:11

and so that what that's what makes the

1:39:13

asset valuable and it's very it's the

1:39:15

it's the most difficult thing to impair

1:39:19

Tom once I had a million dollars seized

1:39:21

by the Argentine government here's how

1:39:23

it happened I had a million dollars in a

1:39:25

bank in Argentina in dollars and it was

1:39:28

a U.S Bank

1:39:30

um on on one day they simply passed a

1:39:33

law converting it all to pesos and they

1:39:36

and they converted everybody's everybody

1:39:38

everybody's account to Pesos in the

1:39:39

country

1:39:40

and the next day they devalued the peso

1:39:42

ten to one

1:39:43

and 24 hours after they'd you know done

1:39:47

that I had 100 000 whereas I had a

1:39:50

million before and they did it

1:39:53

I mean they did it quickly and easily to

1:39:55

everybody in the country

1:39:57

now in theory you know that if if it had

1:40:02

been property they would have had to

1:40:03

pass a law seizing 90 percent of the

1:40:05

property of everybody in the country

1:40:08

that would not be so popular right to

1:40:11

seize the property and if they wanted to

1:40:14

seize 90 of the property of everything

1:40:16

in the country they would have had to

1:40:17

subpoena a court in New York or

1:40:20

Delaware and get my appearance right and

1:40:24

there would have been three four five

1:40:25

years of lawsuits going on and if you

1:40:28

really wanted to take something you have

1:40:29

to kidnap everybody and take them to

1:40:32

jail and swipe their private keys out of

1:40:34

them and that's not very practical right

1:40:36

so at the end of the day it's not likely

1:40:39

that uh

1:40:41

that the governments of all the world

1:40:43

will just confiscate

1:40:46

90 percent

1:40:48

of your of your crypto assets or your

1:40:51

Bitcoin

1:40:52

but in fact it's a foregone conclusion

1:40:55

that they're definitely going to

1:40:55

compensate 90 of your currency

1:40:58

right it's happening at one percent a

1:41:00

month or two percent a month right now

1:41:02

so all you got to do is wait between

1:41:05

five and ten years and you're going to

1:41:06

lose 90 percent of your purchase of your

1:41:08

money if it's in if it's in a currency

1:41:11

or a currency derivative and they don't

1:41:13

even have to pass a law

1:41:15

and I want to start us off actually with

1:41:17

something that you said which is the

1:41:19

world is going through an unprecedented

1:41:22

financial crisis the greatest of our

1:41:24

lifetime now I want to know one why do

1:41:27

you think crypto and everything else has

1:41:28

crashed and two is there an opportunity

1:41:31

in all of this disruption for somebody

1:41:32

to take advantage of or not well uh if

1:41:36

we look at the past year

1:41:37

what you've got is a drawdown of all

1:41:41

Financial assets so the NASDAQ is down

1:41:44

about 22 percent over the past year and

1:41:47

so NASDAQ represents tech companies and

1:41:49

all the risk assets but on the other

1:41:52

hand if if you were to go and look at

1:41:55

like the bond

1:41:56

uh market and the bond portfolios

1:42:00

bonds are down like a b-o-n-d index the

1:42:04

long Bond index

1:42:06

it's down six almost 17 percent

1:42:09

in the year so for 30 or 40 years you

1:42:13

had the 60 40 Bond portfolio and the

1:42:17

idea ones were considered a safe space

1:42:19

the idea was if stocks work then uh then

1:42:24

bonds will be a low return and stocks

1:42:26

would be a high return but if stocks

1:42:28

trade down people will shift their money

1:42:30

to bonds and you'll you know the

1:42:32

interest rates will go down the bond

1:42:35

prices will go up and you'll actually

1:42:37

get a yield on your bond portfolio

1:42:40

but of course that broke around uh March

1:42:44

of 2020 and the reason it broke in March

1:42:48

of 2020 is because interest rates got

1:42:50

pegged to zero so after we had lowered

1:42:53

interest rates from five percent five

1:42:55

and a half to five to four and a half to

1:42:58

four to three and a half to three to two

1:43:00

and a half to two to zero and left it at

1:43:04

zero then bought you know the debate was

1:43:06

can can they take interest rates

1:43:08

negative

1:43:09

if you can't take interest rates

1:43:11

negative then bonds don't act as a hedge

1:43:14

to stocks anymore I mean you're kind of

1:43:16

you're at the end of the road for bonds

1:43:19

and uh and what we saw with stocks is

1:43:23

the Federal Reserve printed a bunch of

1:43:26

money

1:43:27

pegged interest rates at zero and then

1:43:29

you saw all these risk assets explode

1:43:32

you know you saw the NASDAQ explode up

1:43:35

and the s p explode up you had a

1:43:36

k-shaped recovery

1:43:38

and in the k-shaped recovery it's almost

1:43:41

the entire economy was in a train wreck

1:43:44

or in a car wreck and we got taken into

1:43:47

the hospital and they pumped Us full of

1:43:49

morphine you know and if you've ever

1:43:52

been in a bad accident and then first

1:43:54

you're in pain

1:43:55

and then they pump you full of

1:43:57

painkillers and then you actually feel

1:43:58

pretty good

1:44:00

and you're sitting there and your arm is

1:44:02

broken but you're high on morphine or

1:44:04

high on something you feel pretty good

1:44:06

about it and you're thinking why don't I

1:44:07

just go break my arm and do this all the

1:44:09

time and then at some point there's part

1:44:12

of your brain that says you know I'm

1:44:13

going to come home from the hospital and

1:44:15

I'm going to get off this painkiller and

1:44:17

I'm going to be in great pain for the

1:44:19

next three months or six months or

1:44:21

whatever it is so

1:44:24

I think what happened here is the the

1:44:26

FED just pumped tons and tons of

1:44:29

liquidity and we stayed high for about a

1:44:32

year year and a half

1:44:33

and uh I remember when uh when Jerome

1:44:37

Powell said

1:44:39

I'm not even thinking about thinking

1:44:40

about raising interest rates

1:44:43

and the input and said strongly that

1:44:46

it'll be till 2024 before interest rates

1:44:49

start coming up again

1:44:51

but here we are in 2022

1:44:53

and now instead of uh raising them a

1:44:56

quarter point you know each time now

1:44:59

they're raising them 75 basis points so

1:45:02

they're taking three steps at a time

1:45:05

multiple times so we took the cost of

1:45:08

money down faster than any time in

1:45:11

history and now we're jacking up the

1:45:14

cost of money faster than any time in

1:45:17

history and the result is um

1:45:20

that all the traditional models are

1:45:23

broken

1:45:24

let me uh let me give you a uh a

1:45:27

two-year uh post-mortem

1:45:32

since we started uh dealing with this

1:45:35

issue

1:45:36

microstrategy had we had uh we had a 500

1:45:40

million dollars of cash

1:45:42

and we saw interest rates at zero

1:45:45

and we saw the stock market inflated in

1:45:48

the summer of 2020. and we said well

1:45:51

what are we going to invest in and we

1:45:53

looked around at everything should I buy

1:45:55

gold should I buy land should I buy art

1:45:57

should I buy some crypto asset and

1:46:01

what's going to happen next

1:46:03

so what we did is we decided to buy

1:46:05

Bitcoin and we bought 250 million

1:46:07

dollars of Bitcoin August 10th 2020. and

1:46:10

then uh September around September 10th

1:46:13

or so of 2020 we bought another 100 uh

1:46:18

75 million dollars of Bitcoin or

1:46:20

something like that

1:46:21

and then we started buying Bitcoin more

1:46:23

in December and we we kept buying

1:46:25

Bitcoin we ended up buying nearly four

1:46:27

billion dollars

1:46:29

3.97 billion dollars of Bitcoin over

1:46:32

that time period

1:46:33

so uh so in terms of like our strategy

1:46:38

microstrategies just bought as much

1:46:40

Bitcoin as we get our hands on since

1:46:42

August 10th of 2020. and in that time

1:46:45

period stocks gyrated North they gyrated

1:46:49

South uh you know currencies have

1:46:52

changed so let me tell you what's

1:46:54

happened

1:46:56

microstrategy stock

1:46:58

our stock is up 93 94 since that day

1:47:05

Bitcoin is Up 77 since that day

1:47:10

the s p index is up about 18 percent

1:47:14

the NASDAQ index is up seven and a half

1:47:17

percent

1:47:18

gold is down 16 percent

1:47:22

the bond market if you just bought bonds

1:47:24

they're down 18 bonds are down 80 and

1:47:28

silver if you think silver was better

1:47:30

than gold

1:47:31

it's down 32 percent

1:47:33

now if you go on and say okay well fine

1:47:36

let's just buy big Tech

1:47:38

if you had bought uh the the greatest of

1:47:41

the big tech companies is Google

1:47:43

Google is up 41 apple is up 39

1:47:46

Microsoft's up 22 you might have won

1:47:50

those were all better investments in the

1:47:53

much better than NASDAQ much better than

1:47:55

gold not as good as Bitcoin not as good

1:47:58

as microstrategy

1:48:01

if you bought Amazon you're down 18 that

1:48:03

was overvalued in the summer of 2020.

1:48:06

like you know a bunch of 20 somethings

1:48:09

we're just buying Amazon because they

1:48:11

thought well we're all ordering Amazon

1:48:12

stuff so it must be good

1:48:14

well uh when you buy something that

1:48:17

everybody else understands to be good at

1:48:19

the same time they all agree with you is

1:48:21

normally bad yeah Facebook is down 41

1:48:24

since then

1:48:26

Netflix is down 54 since then so half

1:48:30

the big Tech got shellacked the other

1:48:32

half did pretty good

1:48:35

and now last Point what if you bought

1:48:37

enterprise software we compete against

1:48:39

uh companies 100 times as big as us

1:48:41

Oracle sap

1:48:43

Microsoft

1:48:46

um if Oracle is up 39 IBM's up six

1:48:49

percent sales force is down nearly 20

1:48:52

sap is down 45 percent

1:48:56

summary for us microstrategy strategy

1:48:59

wise buy as much Bitcoin as you can and

1:49:02

buy it with equity and debt we borrowed

1:49:04

money we borrowed 2.2 billion dollars at

1:49:07

a blended interest rate of like two

1:49:10

percent or one point eight percent so we

1:49:13

borrowed cheap money while money was

1:49:14

cheap and we bought Bitcoin now people

1:49:16

are saying that's stupid because Bitcoin

1:49:18

was trading up and then it traded down

1:49:21

at the end of the day if your time

1:49:23

Horizon is a decade or longer if you can

1:49:25

borrow if you can borrow the money for

1:49:27

longer than five or six years and you

1:49:29

can hold it through the volatility

1:49:31

then uh raising cheap money

1:49:34

grabbing billions of dollars at low

1:49:36

interest and then investing in a scarce

1:49:38

desirable asset that's got sort of a

1:49:41

technology appeal and holding it for a

1:49:43

long period of time that's going to be a

1:49:45

good strategy that's why our stock is

1:49:47

outperforming Bitcoin that's why that's

1:49:50

why we're outperforming all the

1:49:51

enterprise software companies all the

1:49:52

big tech companies and the reason

1:49:54

bitcoin's outperforming all the other

1:49:56

asset classes

1:49:58

is because it's scarce it's desirable

1:50:02

it's technical

1:50:04

you know no one's going to write a piece

1:50:06

of software to make gold better you're

1:50:08

not going to put gold on a billion

1:50:10

iPhones whereas lightning is a protocol

1:50:13

that's been rolling out lately uh you

1:50:16

know square cash app or blocked cash app

1:50:18

put lightning right into Kasha

1:50:21

it means that you can send a hundred

1:50:23

dollars a Bitcoin to anybody in the

1:50:25

world on a Saturday afternoon for less

1:50:27

than a penny instantly peer-to-peer and

1:50:30

so I'll get to that though I want to I

1:50:31

want to make sure that we humanize this

1:50:33

for people that aren't as familiar with

1:50:35

a lot of this so one part of the appeal

1:50:37

of Bitcoin is also its volatility which

1:50:40

I've heard you speak about but I think

1:50:41

we have to build a few bricks before we

1:50:43

get to that

1:50:44

so I've been going on a journey myself

1:50:46

of really understanding and investing

1:50:48

and understanding what this all means

1:50:49

and so I get to play not play I really

1:50:51

am the sort of ignorant guy but smart

1:50:54

enough to figure it out that's been

1:50:55

going through this in real time with

1:50:57

people so I want to go back so the first

1:50:58

thing we do is we start lowering

1:51:00

interest rates now I want to understand

1:51:02

why they're doing that I have a thesis

1:51:04

let me know if this is actually accurate

1:51:06

the reason that they lower interest

1:51:08

rates is they're trying to Goose the

1:51:09

economy by making money cheaper so that

1:51:12

entrepreneurs and other people will go

1:51:13

and take that money or people that want

1:51:15

to build a house whatever they can get

1:51:17

cheap money they can do something that

1:51:18

creates activity in the economy so

1:51:21

whether you're buying Lumber to build a

1:51:23

house or you're you know taking on debt

1:51:25

to grow your business but you're doing

1:51:27

things is that accurate that's why

1:51:29

they're lowering the interest rate is to

1:51:31

try to get activity

1:51:34

so if you're trying to use monetary

1:51:35

policy

1:51:37

um to uh to counteract the negative

1:51:41

impact of fiscal and foreign policy and

1:51:45

domestic policy but what is the negative

1:51:48

impact is it people just pulling back

1:51:49

and not spending money it's going to be

1:51:51

important to to get where I think we

1:51:54

need to go it's going to be important to

1:51:56

understand why this stuff happens when a

1:51:59

government declares a war they basically

1:52:02

put public policy initiatives ahead of

1:52:06

the interest of the free market

1:52:09

right so if I declare a war I could just

1:52:11

draft every single every single adult in

1:52:13

the country put them in the military

1:52:15

send them off and if I lose the war

1:52:17

They're All Dead

1:52:18

right what's it do to the economy the

1:52:21

economy crashes

1:52:23

right what's it do the prices uh well

1:52:25

price of everything go up if you want to

1:52:27

create inflation you do it too a couple

1:52:29

of ways either you cut the supply

1:52:32

or you increase to cut the supply of the

1:52:35

product you want to buy or you increase

1:52:36

the supply of the money that's available

1:52:38

to buy it with

1:52:40

so if I uh if I make it illegal to

1:52:43

manufacture food

1:52:47

the price of food is going up

1:52:48

right I don't even need to print more

1:52:51

money right I can create inflation uh

1:52:53

just ever in a war like in World War II

1:52:56

we have uh we have gas rationing you

1:52:59

have you have food coupons why because

1:53:01

all the gasoline gets shipped off to

1:53:03

Europe to put in tanks or to put in

1:53:05

airplanes or put in ships so when you

1:53:08

have um when you have policies that are

1:53:11

declaring a war on something

1:53:13

you divert resources so we had a war on

1:53:17

covid

1:53:18

we have a war on carbon and energy War

1:53:20

if I decide I don't want you to burn

1:53:23

coal or oil that I drive up the price of

1:53:27

energy if I decide I don't want you to

1:53:29

show up in your office I drive up the

1:53:31

price of uh production

1:53:34

if I if I decide that um

1:53:37

you know that uh

1:53:39

I want to fight uh this covid war and

1:53:42

I'm going to

1:53:43

going to change the way the economy

1:53:46

works if then I'm going to drive up the

1:53:49

cost of everything else so we've got

1:53:51

lots and lots of wars right you've got a

1:53:54

culture War you've got a war on office

1:53:56

work you've got a war on carbon you've

1:53:59

got a war in the Ukraine the war in the

1:54:02

Ukraine

1:54:03

has escalated right it's not just a war

1:54:06

in the UK and it's really a kind of a

1:54:08

quasi-economic war on Russia so when we

1:54:11

actually imparted Russian sanctions we

1:54:13

cut the amount of uh of

1:54:16

gasoline or or the amount of fuel

1:54:19

available in energy we drive up the

1:54:21

price of energy

1:54:22

so every single time you actually put a

1:54:26

a public policy in place you create

1:54:28

inflation

1:54:30

policy is inflationary the more policy

1:54:33

you have the more inflation you have I

1:54:36

think this is going to be one of the key

1:54:38

elements that uh people need to

1:54:40

understand so centralized control I

1:54:42

think is a core part of the thesis as to

1:54:44

why things are breaking so you have

1:54:46

governments coming in top down this is

1:54:49

going to be the way that it is and I've

1:54:51

heard you say it and I would agree with

1:54:53

this very much

1:54:54

let's assume that they're coming in with

1:54:56

good intentions but despite their good

1:54:58

intentions they're creating all kinds of

1:55:00

problems there's actually a do you know

1:55:01

Thomas Seoul

1:55:03

I don't oh my God I think you would

1:55:05

really resonate with him he's an

1:55:07

economist so you might discount him a

1:55:08

little bit for that but he uh says the

1:55:11

last 30 years have been marked by

1:55:13

trading what worked with what sounds

1:55:15

and I think that we're to your point

1:55:17

about wars let's take the one on energy

1:55:19

so we've got people doing a green War

1:55:21

great intentions they really believe in

1:55:24

that they want to save the planet but it

1:55:27

in trying to help the patient they are

1:55:30

putting forward measures that do feel

1:55:32

very warlike that are closing off a lot

1:55:34

of doors that are making energy more

1:55:35

expensive that are going to

1:55:37

disproportionately impact the poor not

1:55:40

just here in the U.S but around the

1:55:42

world and so that that top-down control

1:55:45

I know better I know what to do with

1:55:47

this knob instead of letting it evolve

1:55:49

or happen in the free market we're going

1:55:52

to prescribe behavior and that now I

1:55:56

would say and I'd love to know if you

1:55:57

agree is

1:55:59

if not the biggest certainly one of the

1:56:02

biggest contributors to what's happening

1:56:04

to the economy

1:56:06

yeah good the road to hell is paved in

1:56:10

good intent right people uh people uh

1:56:15

get into positions of power

1:56:17

and they want to do good

1:56:19

and so they do good by issuing edicts

1:56:22

executive orders policies regulations

1:56:26

and they think that the regulations will

1:56:29

make things better they believe that

1:56:31

that you know if you if you enter into

1:56:33

government and politics you believe the

1:56:35

political process is a way to make the

1:56:37

world better

1:56:38

so what you have is political

1:56:41

organizations centralized organizations

1:56:43

getting progressively more powerful

1:56:46

and as they get more powerful people do

1:56:48

things

1:56:49

right and I think if you roll the clock

1:56:51

back to Ronald Reagan he would say you

1:56:53

know government's the problem

1:56:55

government's not the solution

1:56:59

let's take nuclear energy

1:57:01

right the the cleanest form of energy is

1:57:05

nuclear energy it's it's the cleanest

1:57:07

probably the safest nobody died at Three

1:57:10

Mile Island uh you know we can't we

1:57:13

can't hardly trace a death from nuclear

1:57:15

energy in the U.S and yet we haven't

1:57:17

built a nuclear power plant since the

1:57:19

creation of the nuclear Regulatory

1:57:20

Commission

1:57:21

50 years ago and in Germany they shut

1:57:24

all theirs down

1:57:26

right and in Japan human psychology a

1:57:29

play like this feels another key piece

1:57:31

to the puzzle here as we look at why the

1:57:34

collapse how this happens how we get

1:57:36

back out feels like in is humans react

1:57:40

in a very emotional way to what happens

1:57:43

so it has yeah exactly and Euphoria so

1:57:47

you get these two competing things that

1:57:49

set something up weird so this is the

1:57:51

first cycle that I've lived through

1:57:52

where I was paying attention like uh

1:57:55

somebody interested in the financial

1:57:56

World till then I was just an

1:57:57

entrepreneur and just totally focused on

1:57:59

that and so I watched the Euphoria grow

1:58:02

in crypto and it was like exciting and

1:58:07

thrilling and it was so fun but

1:58:10

there were people like I had heard you

1:58:12

say a gazillion times guys you have to

1:58:15

be thinking in at least four-year

1:58:16

increments and any thinking less than

1:58:18

that is you're you're gonna get tricked

1:58:21

by the volatility and despite the fact

1:58:24

that you and many other people were

1:58:25

saying similar things the second the

1:58:27

price starts dropping people panic the

1:58:29

price starts dropping more people get

1:58:30

liquidated because they were in way over

1:58:32

their heads and now it's the sense of

1:58:35

Despair and it's never coming back and

1:58:37

it's over forever and so there's like

1:58:39

this this schizophrenic bipolar maybe is

1:58:43

a better way to think of it attitude of

1:58:45

like we're up and we could never lose

1:58:47

and I don't need to plan for a down

1:58:48

scenario we're down it will never be up

1:58:50

again and

1:58:52

how much of that do you think

1:58:53

exacerbates the problem if you're an

1:58:56

entrepreneur or you're an investor you

1:58:58

have to have a 10-year time Horizon and

1:59:01

not nothing great is accomplished

1:59:03

without a decade if you look at

1:59:05

Microsoft

1:59:06

the companies founded in the mid 70s a

1:59:09

decade later in their mid 80s you know

1:59:11

if you're not willing to hold Microsoft

1:59:13

stock for a decade you probably didn't

1:59:14

get to the point where they came Paul

1:59:16

White so a decade's a short period of

1:59:19

time for someone who's an industrialist

1:59:21

or or an investor I mean Warren Buffett

1:59:25

still owns Coca-Cola stock and he must

1:59:27

have bought it 50 years ago right

1:59:29

so I you know I think that anybody you

1:59:32

know that's a billionaire right all all

1:59:34

of these names the Sergey brins the mark

1:59:37

zuckerbergs the Jeff Bezos the Elon

1:59:40

musks of the world they didn't get there

1:59:42

without without holding an asset that

1:59:45

had technical potential

1:59:47

for a decade or longer there's no get

1:59:50

rich quick scheme so I think that uh

1:59:53

people want uh they want a an easy route

1:59:56

uh if you're trying to if you're trying

1:59:58

to get a quick uh a quick win with no

2:00:01

volatility with no risk doesn't make

2:00:04

sense and if you're actually trying to

2:00:06

successful in a hurry with volatility

2:00:08

that probably still won't work either I

2:00:10

mean ultimately success comes from

2:00:12

taking a a decade-long view

2:00:15

right Andrew Mellon John D Rockefeller

2:00:19

Jeff Bezos right we forget like Tesla

2:00:23

was founded 20 years ago like people

2:00:25

think it's an overnight success but it's

2:00:27

not an overnight success

2:00:29

um and with regard to the um the macro

2:00:32

picture we live in an a time of

2:00:34

unprecedented public intervention in the

2:00:38

Affairs of the economy

2:00:40

right uh unprecedented we never had a

2:00:43

never in the history of the country did

2:00:46

you have a government that told you you

2:00:47

couldn't have Thanksgiving dinner with

2:00:49

your family because they didn't want

2:00:51

family members to sit too close to each

2:00:53

other

2:00:53

yeah we arrested a dude on a surfboard

2:00:57

in the middle of the Pacific Ocean for

2:00:59

for for basically paddle boarding in the

2:01:02

middle of Pacific because that was

2:01:04

deemed as unsafe right that kind of

2:01:06

stuff so we have an unprecedented amount

2:01:09

of encroachment we have we have

2:01:11

politicians overriding the free market

2:01:14

they tell you what kind of energy you

2:01:17

can use they tell you you know how how

2:01:20

you how far you have to sit from someone

2:01:22

they tell you whether it's safe to be

2:01:25

sitting in your office at a table next

2:01:27

to someone lots and lots of encroachment

2:01:30

each of these areas right war is the

2:01:34

suppression of the free market uh

2:01:37

to the uh to the benefit of the public

2:01:42

or the public organization right the

2:01:44

government is suppressing the free

2:01:45

market so if the government keeps

2:01:48

suppressing the free market everywhere

2:01:51

what you do is you [ __ ] production

2:01:54

right yeah that's why we have tariffs on

2:01:58

uh on Chinese Imports right that the

2:02:00

driver prices up or down drives them up

2:02:02

right

2:02:04

you have you have a war on uh on uh or a

2:02:08

labor War right if everybody unionizes

2:02:10

and if everybody's afraid to go to work

2:02:12

and if everybody's a if everybody thinks

2:02:15

that their life is threatened to stand

2:02:17

next to another human being right and

2:02:19

and uh if we're afraid to trade with

2:02:22

each other and if we're afraid to talk

2:02:24

with each other

2:02:25

right if you if you have Capital

2:02:27

controls wage controls price controls

2:02:30

export controls manufacturing controls

2:02:34

right as those things happen they have a

2:02:36

chilling effect on the economy so what

2:02:38

we have right now is on one hand you

2:02:40

have a supply side problem

2:02:43

right you're we're not producing as much

2:02:46

the the degree of not producing by the

2:02:48

way is misunderstood uh the currency

2:02:50

weakened by 20 in the year after covid

2:02:53

if the economy measured in nominal terms

2:02:56

is flat that meant that the overall

2:02:58

economic output decreased by 20 the

2:03:01

overall economic output decreased by 20

2:03:03

or more in the last two years people

2:03:05

wonder if we're in recession we've been

2:03:07

in recession since March of 2020 but

2:03:10

what we have is a situation where all

2:03:12

the metrics are distorted

2:03:14

right for example how many people would

2:03:16

measure the Economy based upon GDP

2:03:19

output measured in dollars most is that

2:03:23

the correct measure no

2:03:25

right because the dollar is not worth

2:03:27

what it was 24 months ago right what if

2:03:30

you look at it

2:03:31

you have to measure it in real terms or

2:03:33

measure it in the uh the actual output

2:03:35

of goods and services for example

2:03:38

how many airline miles got flown right

2:03:42

if Emirates Airlines grounded half their

2:03:45

Fleet and decommissioned it after covid

2:03:48

now they're up and running the part they

2:03:50

did in decommission how is it possible

2:03:52

that the error sector could possibly

2:03:55

recover to the point where it was in

2:03:57

January of 2020.

2:03:59

if you've actually mothballed or

2:04:01

decommissioned half the airplanes

2:04:04

right I could double the price of a

2:04:06

ticket

2:04:07

if I double the price of a ticket I can

2:04:10

tell you that the size of the airline

2:04:12

industry is the same as it was in

2:04:14

January 2020 right

2:04:16

I could occur there's no recession but

2:04:18

the fact is everything costs twice as

2:04:20

much there's half as much of it

2:04:22

right I changed the way that I measured

2:04:25

it GDP measured in nominal terms is a

2:04:28

gross Distortion and then CPI is a gross

2:04:30

Distortion if I if I have a hundred

2:04:33

things that you want and I pick 10 of

2:04:36

them and I measure the increase in the

2:04:38

price of 10 and I ignore the price and

2:04:40

the other 90 I can show you a CPI is

2:04:43

eight percent right eight point three

2:04:45

percent is the number this morning but

2:04:47

the actual inflation rate is higher but

2:04:49

it's it's inflation on something

2:04:52

like it's inflation something you want

2:04:54

but I'm not going to choose to measure

2:04:56

for example you know the 30-year bond is

2:05:00

is traded up to

2:05:02

350 basis points and it was 180. right

2:05:06

mortgages have doubled so mortgages have

2:05:09

doubled housing prices are up 35 percent

2:05:12

and that means in you know in theory the

2:05:16

cost for you to actually buy a home is

2:05:18

going to be 50 60 percent higher year

2:05:21

over year but I don't choose to measure

2:05:24

because we don't actually calculate CPI

2:05:27

that way I take a survey and I ask you

2:05:29

whether or not you think you could raise

2:05:31

your rent by something and if the owner

2:05:33

equivalent rent is up three percent and

2:05:36

I say that the inflation is three or

2:05:38

five so we have a set of metrics that

2:05:41

are that are just

2:05:43

manufactured metrics

2:05:46

and then we focus on them and then we

2:05:48

talk about them

2:05:50

But ultimately what you have is an

2:05:53

economy that's distorted there are some

2:05:55

things we produce more of

2:05:58

and there's and there are some things we

2:06:00

produce less of

2:06:02

and we have flexibility with what we

2:06:04

choose to measure

2:06:06

the uh the monetary intervention is the

2:06:09

government basically

2:06:15

if I put everybody under home arrest for

2:06:15

a year

2:06:19

it's going to be a problem for the

2:06:19

economy right I mean if I shut down they

2:06:22

did it in New Zealand they did it in

2:06:24

Australia they did it in Canada they

2:06:26

kind of did it in certain states in the

2:06:27

U.S if I do that that cripples the

2:06:30

economy so

2:06:33

while I'm doing that

2:06:36

then if I go ahead and I pump a lot of

2:06:38

money in the system

2:06:40

right then maybe I I create a wealth

2:06:43

effect and I can say well you know we're

2:06:45

recovering but ultimately

2:06:48

you never recover from the fact that

2:06:51

nobody went to school for a year and no

2:06:53

nobody you know went to work for a year

2:06:55

right you can't You've Lost That forever

2:06:58

you're just not measuring it you you can

2:07:02

you can change your metrics

2:07:05

right there's this there's a saying you

2:07:07

write the

2:07:08

the winners write the history books

2:07:11

so the Romans remember the carthaginians

2:07:14

have been as being like evil

2:07:17

right if if we win the war then we write

2:07:21

out all of the good that our adversary

2:07:24

did and we write up all the good that we

2:07:27

did and we suppress all the bad that we

2:07:29

did because we won the war we write

2:07:30

history books and

2:07:32

and so I think right now what you're

2:07:34

what you see in the economy is lots of

2:07:36

distortion of numbers loss of distortion

2:07:39

of metrics

2:07:41

right the fact that we have a debate

2:07:42

over whether we are in a recession or

2:07:44

not is is kind of laughable right

2:07:46

because we've been in a recession for 24

2:07:47

months if you were measuring the

2:07:50

production of goods and services all you

2:07:53

got to do is look at the variety of

2:07:55

things that were available to you in

2:07:57

January of 2020 versus the variety of

2:08:00

things available to you today and the

2:08:04

delays

2:08:05

if you've got one tenth the selection

2:08:07

and it takes three times as long to get

2:08:09

it and it costs 20 percent more

2:08:12

how are you not in a recession yeah this

2:08:14

is what really is

2:08:16

um I find unnerving as I go down the

2:08:20

road of trying to figure all this out

2:08:21

trying to figure out where the

2:08:22

opportunities are is I'm looking at what

2:08:24

feels like and again I want to to give

2:08:27

that it will be it's being done with

2:08:29

good intention but you have a changing

2:08:32

definition of what a recession is to

2:08:33

match a thing that seems designed very

2:08:37

explicitly to keep people calm and uh it

2:08:42

seems the same thing with the FED right

2:08:44

the reason that they said we're not even

2:08:45

thinking about thinking about taking up

2:08:47

breaks they just want to keep everybody

2:08:48

calm so we're told things not

2:08:52

necessarily because they will be the

2:08:53

most effective long term or at least

2:08:55

that the outcome is that they don't end

2:08:57

up being effective but they're looking

2:08:59

at the short-term impact of I want to

2:09:01

make sure that people stay calm and I'll

2:09:03

admit if they were like oh my God the

2:09:04

world is burning and everything is bad

2:09:05

like then people are going to act like

2:09:07

it's 10 times worse and so that's why I

2:09:10

feel like if I'm if I start putting the

2:09:11

pieces together there's really three

2:09:13

pieces that I think give us the

2:09:15

situation that we're in as you have said

2:09:18

people just don't understand money and

2:09:21

so you said half of the problems that we

2:09:22

face as a civilization have to do with

2:09:24

the fact that we do not understand money

2:09:26

that was pretty interesting and then

2:09:28

you've got this top-down control so

2:09:31

centralized decision making which is

2:09:33

destined to fail historically just

2:09:34

looking at it does not work and then the

2:09:37

third thing is human emotion and so you

2:09:40

put these things together in a cocktail

2:09:43

and you get the moment that we're living

2:09:44

through so you've got people freaking

2:09:46

out you've got other people know that

2:09:48

you're going to freak out so they're

2:09:49

trying to control everything trying to

2:09:51

say hey I can make better decisions than

2:09:52

you I'm going to tell you sort of white

2:09:54

little lies to get you where I need you

2:09:56

I mean I I think back to the mask

2:09:57

statement right in the beginning it's

2:09:59

like they don't work actually you need

2:10:01

to wear them all the time uh they didn't

2:10:03

work when they wanted to save them for

2:10:05

hospital employees and suddenly they

2:10:06

started working when there was enough

2:10:07

for all of us to wear them and so it's

2:10:09

like I get it again good intentions but

2:10:12

without sort of a pathological fear of

2:10:15

doing this top-down control

2:10:18

you get this issue and then compound the

2:10:20

fact even if people wanted to think

2:10:22

through the process for themselves they

2:10:24

don't understand it and so I feel like

2:10:27

I'm just barely beginning to understand

2:10:29

how money actually works and I think now

2:10:32

we should get into

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2:10:34

um Bitcoin as a thing that exemplifies

2:10:37

some very powerful principles that will

2:10:40

begin to help people understand so the

2:10:42

the first thing that I'm gonna say and I

2:10:46

say this knowing that you will correct

2:10:47

me if I'm incorrect but here is my

2:10:49

understanding of what makes Bitcoin so

2:10:51

interesting that money is basically your

2:10:55

financial energy put into a form that

2:10:58

can be carried across space and time

2:11:00

some forms allow you to carry across

2:11:02

space and time easily some not so much

2:11:03

but getting people just understand that

2:11:05

I go do a thing that is my physical

2:11:07

energy my physical labor my time my

2:11:10

actual like turning uh oxygen and food

2:11:14

into ATP and I'm actually able to put

2:11:17

that into a medium right it could be

2:11:19

gold it could be uh fiat currency or it

2:11:21

could be Bitcoin but just getting people

2:11:23

to understand holy [ __ ] like there's

2:11:25

actually a way for me to do a thing

2:11:28

receive a thing that allows me to carry

2:11:31

that energy across time and if if you'll

2:11:33

bear with me it's like fat so I can eat

2:11:37

a bunch of food and I can store it on my

2:11:39

body as fat but if I'm really smart I

2:11:41

will eat a bunch sort of my body's fat

2:11:43

and I will give a bunch away because I'm

2:11:45

too full I can't keep eating I will give

2:11:47

a bunch away and essentially store fat

2:11:49

on their bodies so the next time if I

2:11:52

don't get food they do get food so the

2:11:54

idea of being able to transfer useful

2:11:56

things across time and space

2:11:58

in unique ways is really important so

2:12:01

Bitcoin comes along as certainly the

2:12:04

newest entrant and maybe the best

2:12:07

entrant of things that allow you to Sock

2:12:11

away your time and energy into that and

2:12:13

carry it across time and space

2:12:16

have I understood that correctly I think

2:12:18

that's well said I mean

2:12:20

fundamentally money is an energy system

2:12:23

to transfer energy over time and space

2:12:26

right that's the right way to think of

2:12:28

it uh fat is an organic battery

2:12:31

it's it's it's your way to transfer

2:12:35

organic energy if you put 20 or 30

2:12:37

pounds of fat on your body you can live

2:12:39

for 90 days

2:12:41

right and if you don't you don't eat you

2:12:44

die so

2:12:46

fat was developed over the course of

2:12:48

millions and you know 70 million a

2:12:50

million years and it's a pretty

2:12:52

wonderful invention when you think about

2:12:54

it it's it's it's the reason that we

2:12:57

didn't go extinct or the reason you're

2:13:00

not dead

2:13:03

the the challenge with money is uh the

2:13:06

Fiat currencies that are used

2:13:08

communities money they're all broken

2:13:09

they all have a big hole in them and uh

2:13:12

and the big hole is inflation period end

2:13:14

of story or is there something else

2:13:17

the whole is we could call it inflation

2:13:19

but inflation such a Charged term

2:13:21

because most people think inflation is

2:13:23

CPI uh the defect in Fiat currencies is

2:13:27

monitoring inflation it's the expansion

2:13:29

and the money supply not just the

2:13:32

increase in consumer goods because the

2:13:34

CPI is a distorted it's a submetric

2:13:37

right if if you look at the US dollar

2:13:40

the dollar is the supply of dollars has

2:13:44

been increasing seven percent a year for

2:13:46

90 years it's been increasing 15 to 20

2:13:50

percent a year for the past two years

2:13:52

right right so the the big idea that's

2:13:55

true so it seems worth walk us through

2:13:59

where do you get that number

2:14:01

well if you go back to 1930

2:14:04

my house in Miami Beach cost a hundred

2:14:07

thousand dollars and if you roll the

2:14:09

clock forward to

2:14:12

two thousand and 2012 it cost 14 million

2:14:17

dollars and today it would cost you 40

2:14:19

million dollars so

2:14:21

so it's 400 times more expensive

2:14:25

than it was

2:14:27

you know 90 92 years ago now if you back

2:14:31

solve that you'll find that that works

2:14:33

out to about a six percent or seven

2:14:35

percent annualized inflation rate

2:14:39

right and if you go and you look at any

2:14:40

kind of scarce desirable asset something

2:14:43

that's something that is uh you can't

2:14:45

make any more of you'll find typically

2:14:47

the increase in cost about seven percent

2:14:49

a year normally you can actually see uh

2:14:53

if you look at the market basket of

2:14:54

things people like want like really good

2:14:56

health care really good education uh you

2:15:00

know a beach house in the Hamptons uh

2:15:02

artwork picassos right that kind of

2:15:06

stuff

2:15:06

that doesn't go up in price one or two

2:15:08

percent a year that goes up in price

2:15:11

normally about seven percent a year and

2:15:14

uh if you look at the at the price of a

2:15:17

a basket of stocks

2:15:19

like the s p

2:15:21

the s p has gone up about 10 percent a

2:15:23

year Well the reason it's gone up 10 a

2:15:26

year is because the money supply

2:15:27

expanded is seven percent a year and

2:15:30

then the underlying companies probably

2:15:32

grew two or three percent you know

2:15:34

effectively so

2:15:36

uh you can figure this out for yourself

2:15:39

if you just go start to go and take

2:15:41

samples of what stuff costs in 1971 what

2:15:44

it costs in 1930 what a cost in in the

2:15:47

year 1950 and what you'll see is that

2:15:50

for anything that's really desirable

2:15:53

like uh scarce energy that has energy

2:15:56

content it doesn't go up in price two

2:15:58

percent now the stuff that that uh

2:16:01

doesn't go up in price is expensive is

2:16:03

stuff that's highly manufactured with

2:16:06

low end low energy content High

2:16:08

information content so for example a

2:16:11

streaming video on YouTube

2:16:13

or something that could be Stamped Out

2:16:15

in quantity 100 million at a time

2:16:17

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2:16:19

boxed food right stop highly

2:16:21

manufactured stuff that has machines

2:16:24

generating it or even better

2:16:27

you know something that's got cheaper

2:16:29

right it cost a lot of money to listen

2:16:31

to Beethoven's Fifth Symphony if the

2:16:33

orchestra plays it in 1850

2:16:35

but it costs not that much to listen to

2:16:37

Beethoven's Fifth Symphony if you're

2:16:39

listening on your iPhone through your

2:16:40

airpods right so if I can strip the

2:16:43

material the matter and the energy out

2:16:45

of the product I can provide that to you

2:16:48

very cheaply so the information content

2:16:51

products got cheap but

2:16:54

Stakes right more expensive although

2:16:57

there's a slight benefit if you can

2:16:59

manufacture a hundred thousand cows and

2:17:02

I can use machines right then there

2:17:04

that's a deflationary thing one thing

2:17:06

you can't easily manufacture more of is

2:17:08

three acres of beachfront property in

2:17:11

the Hamptons

2:17:12

that's very difficult right and if you

2:17:14

look at the cost of a Palm Beach House

2:17:17

they're 100 million dollars right now

2:17:19

okay so 100 million dollars for a house

2:17:22

on two acres or three acres in Palm

2:17:24

Beach now ask yourself the question why

2:17:27

isn't that getting cheaper that thing's

2:17:29

going up a lot

2:17:32

the problem coming back to money is is

2:17:36

um Fiat currencies aren't anchored in

2:17:40

energy uh when we were on the gold

2:17:42

standard theoretically during the gold

2:17:45

age 1870 to 1914 if a if a dollar was

2:17:50

convertible at a 20th ounce of gold

2:17:52

right and you really pegged it hard to

2:17:56

then you're anchoring the currency

2:17:59

into a hard asset now gold isn't um

2:18:03

isn't um fixed in Supply the gold Supply

2:18:07

increases at two percent a year two to

2:18:10

three percent a year so if you're on the

2:18:12

gold standard that means that the supply

2:18:14

of money would be increasing at two

2:18:16

percent a year or an otherwise doubling

2:18:18

every 35 years

2:18:20

so so money under the gold standard

2:18:24

perfectly executed bleeds energy every

2:18:28

35 years it's got a half-life of 35

2:18:30

years but that creates stable prices Tom

2:18:34

because the economy grows at two to

2:18:37

three percent a year

2:18:38

so if the economy grows three percent a

2:18:40

year if the money loses three percent of

2:18:42

its value a year then everything kind of

2:18:45

stays stable right the demand increases

2:18:47

the supply increases right that's a good

2:18:50

situation in that case you can save your

2:18:53

money and 30 years from now your money

2:18:56

will be worth as much as it is today

2:19:01

if uh if it turns out that you're saving

2:19:04

your money and the supply of money is

2:19:05

increasing at seven percent a year then

2:19:07

the money is cut in half every 10 years

2:19:10

right and so that means in 30 years uh

2:19:13

the amount of money you have will be cut

2:19:15

in half once twice three times

2:19:18

so you would you would have uh 12 and a

2:19:22

half percent of your wealth in 30 years

2:19:24

saving money under the Fiat standard uh

2:19:27

under uh under a seven percent regime

2:19:30

now seven percent was the about the rate

2:19:33

that the U.S was inflating the dollar

2:19:35

supply but in the developing World in

2:19:38

weaker countries uh you would see them

2:19:40

inflate the the money supply about

2:19:42

double that 14 so the half-life of their

2:19:45

money is five years the half-life of the

2:19:48

dollar is ten years most people don't

2:19:50

even notice 10 years is half-life except

2:19:51

that anecdotally

2:19:53

if you asked anybody in the past 20

2:19:55

years are you going to save your life

2:19:57

savings in a checking account that earns

2:20:00

one or two percent interest in dollars

2:20:02

they would tell you no I I know

2:20:05

intuitively the cost of a college

2:20:06

education is going to go up the cost of

2:20:08

a house is going to go up I can't just

2:20:11

save in dollars that generate zero

2:20:12

percent interest

2:20:14

so the so under the Fiat standard the

2:20:17

money supply is expanding from seven to

2:20:19

fourteen percent a year depending on

2:20:20

where you are until we got to covid and

2:20:24

in covid everything doubled and so you

2:20:27

started seeing a much more rapid

2:20:28

collapse in the value of fiat currency

2:20:30

the US dollar expanded the money supply

2:20:33

uh 15 to 20 percent a year and so in the

2:20:38

U.S we expanded the money supply maybe

2:20:40

40 percent and so U.S single-family

2:20:42

homes went up in price 40 percent oh God

2:20:45

I think about the correlation the price

2:20:48

of a house is 40 higher than it was 24

2:20:50

months ago the amount of money in

2:20:53

dollars is 40 higher than 24 months ago

2:20:56

the number of houses are about the same

2:20:58

the number of people want them about the

2:21:01

makes sense

2:21:02

now if you go to other countries if you

2:21:05

look at uh currencies outside the US in

2:21:08

the past 12 months right the Chinese

2:21:10

currency is weakened seven percent

2:21:11

Australians down eight the euro is down

2:21:14

15 percent the wands down 15 the pounds

2:21:17

down 17 South African Rands down 18

2:21:20

polish a lot is down 18 and Japanese

2:21:23

Yen's down 24

2:21:25

in dollar terms what's happening

2:21:28

they're putting more money

2:21:30

right it's even a bigger issue for them

2:21:32

the Japanese

2:21:34

have pegged the 10-year interest rate at

2:21:37

25 basis points

2:21:39

and um the U.S 10-year interest rate

2:21:42

right is is uh more than 10x that

2:21:46

the Japanese Central Bank is printing

2:21:49

infinite yen in order to keep in order

2:21:51

to buy every Bond and keep the price of

2:21:54

bonds much much higher than they would

2:21:56

otherwise be so they're holding up the

2:21:58

price of bonds by pumping yen in the

2:22:02

economy and the reason as they do that

2:22:04

the Yen crashes against the dollar

2:22:07

but of course it's even crashing faster

2:22:10

against scarce desirable assets if you

2:22:13

price a barrel of oil in dollars it just

2:22:15

got 24 more expensive in Japan

2:22:19

because they want to hold up prop up

2:22:22

asset prices they want to Pro they have

2:22:25

institutions that are holding Bond

2:22:28

portfolios of Yen and the they have

2:22:31

institutions Holding stock portfolios

2:22:34

and if they stop printing in to hold up

2:22:37

the asset prices those those uh

2:22:40

portfolios of assets will crash

2:22:43

and if they crash then the inflationary

2:22:45

impact well if those portfolios of

2:22:48

assets crash then the banks or the

2:22:51

investors that hold them will be

2:22:52

technically insolvent and go bankrupt

2:22:55

if I'm a bank and I have 10 billion

2:22:57

dollars of assets and seven or eight

2:23:00

billion dollars in loans outstanding

2:23:03

then I look solvent but if those assets

2:23:05

are in sovereign debt and the sovereign

2:23:08

debt crashes by two or three billion I'm

2:23:10

technically insolvent it creates a

2:23:12

banking crisis or a financial crisis so

2:23:16

it gets worse than this right Tom that's

2:23:19

the good news those are strong countries

2:23:21

great

2:23:22

the bad news is like Sri Lanka Argentina

2:23:25

turkey now are those the same thing just

2:23:29

played out on a longer timeline

2:23:31

those are examples where the

2:23:33

government's printing even more money so

2:23:35

for example the cost and Turkish lira up

2:23:38

120 over 12 months

2:23:41

so the Turkish lira is crashing more

2:23:43

than 50 percent against the dollar the

2:23:45

Argentine peso is crashing in Sri Lanka

2:23:49

Sri Lanka crashed the entire economy and

2:23:52

the government how'd they do it well

2:23:54

first they uh they made it illegal to

2:23:57

use fertilizer to grow crops and they

2:24:00

kind of crushed the the farming business

2:24:02

then they um they printed too much money

2:24:06

under a modern monetary theory that they

2:24:09

could just print money so they crash

2:24:10

their currency then they couldn't afford

2:24:13

to buy fuel they couldn't buy energy or

2:24:16

gasoline so then they actually

2:24:19

regulated the use of gasoline by saying

2:24:22

that private citizens couldn't actually

2:24:23

buy gasoline

2:24:25

then the people rioted and they toppled

2:24:28

the government because if you're going

2:24:30

to starve me to death and freeze me to

2:24:33

death and then lock me

2:24:35

and and deprive me of my car right

2:24:40

you you pretty much like ripped me back

2:24:42

to the Stone Age right you're gonna

2:24:44

freeze to death walk everywhere and

2:24:46

there's no food to eat

2:24:48

why because it got excessive government

2:24:50

intervention right the these ESG

2:24:54

policies that are totally irrational

2:24:56

so you can have irrational policies

2:24:59

let's go let's go into ESG because this

2:25:01

is actually super controversial yeah but

2:25:04

very interesting so for somebody that

2:25:05

doesn't know what an ESG policy is what

2:25:07

is ESG

2:25:09

it's when I decide that um the say

2:25:13

nuclear power is bad but solar power is

2:25:16

good but natural gas is bad

2:25:20

but wind power is good when when you

2:25:24

start to decide and dictate how people

2:25:27

will generate energy

2:25:29

right and and or or when I decide you

2:25:33

can't use fertilizer in order to grow

2:25:35

food because also a green decision

2:25:38

yeah because fertilizers have phosphates

2:25:41

in them and they decide the phosphates

2:25:43

are bad for the water and so they didn't

2:25:46

want people to not use them

2:25:48

so as the as the government starts to

2:25:50

implement policies about how you will or

2:25:52

will not produce food how you will or

2:25:55

will not produce energy or heat

2:25:58

what happens is ultimately they drive up

2:26:00

the price of food

2:26:01

right if you don't use fertilizer then

2:26:04

your crop yields get cut in half

2:26:06

if your crop Gales get cut in half food

2:26:09

price doubles

2:26:10

if you're not allowed to use gasoline

2:26:12

and you have to use a you know electric

2:26:14

powered car

2:26:16

to cost the car doubles

2:26:19

crop prices your food price doubles

2:26:21

again now it's 4X as much

2:26:23

if I if I double the money supply by

2:26:25

printing a bunch of money to give to

2:26:27

someone to pursue some aim that I agree

2:26:32

now the price doubles again so I've

2:26:33

increased the price of everything by a

2:26:35

factor of eight how dangerous do you

2:26:37

think this moment is for the U.S

2:26:41

it's pretty dangerous

2:26:43

we're the richest company a country in

2:26:46

the world though so the US the U.S

2:26:49

um has the world's Reserve currency so

2:26:52

if you think about the way the economy

2:26:54

worked 24 months ago

2:26:58

the uh the the countries like China or

2:27:02

sorry countries like Russia and the like

2:27:05

export a trillion dollars worth of raw

2:27:08

materials like uh energy and metals and

2:27:12

the like and in countries like China

2:27:15

export a trillion dollars worth of

2:27:17

products and services

2:27:19

and we pay for them by sending back two

2:27:23

trillion dollars worth of dollars

2:27:25

so what we do is we export 2 trillion

2:27:28

worth of inflation and they export 2

2:27:30

trillion worth of products and services

2:27:33

and energy

2:27:35

because we run the banking system of the

2:27:38

world right the banking Network plus the

2:27:41

US Dollars the world Reserve currency

2:27:43

really is I need to ask because I don't

2:27:45

understand so when we send them the two

2:27:47

trillion dollars we are creating that

2:27:49

money in order to make those purchases

2:27:51

yeah so we're not just taking money that

2:27:53

we've already saved

2:27:56

let's say there's 50 trillion dollars

2:27:58

circulating around the world and we just

2:28:00

print two trillion more

2:28:02

now there's 52 trillion we've inflated

2:28:05

uh We've inflated the currency Supply by

2:28:08

four percent we've devalued everything

2:28:11

by four percent and we've traded two

2:28:14

trillion dollars worth of US dollars for

2:28:17

two trillion dollars worth of coal or

2:28:20

or products or iPhones or labor or

2:28:23

something

2:28:24

right and and that's the way it works

2:28:26

right and and the reason it works out

2:28:28

what what is the real export the US

2:28:30

provides Financial Economic Security

2:28:38

like for example if you live in Mexico

2:28:38

or you live in Argentina and you've got

2:28:40

a million dollars are you going to save

2:28:41

it in the peso you're going to save it

2:28:44

the dollar right

2:28:46

how are you going to save your money

2:28:47

if you um if you export uh a hundred

2:28:51

billion dollars of oil from the Middle

2:28:53

East and we give you back a hundred

2:28:55

billion dollars in dollars what are you

2:28:57

going to do with 100 billion dollars

2:29:00

you buy t-bills with it so you buy

2:29:02

sovereign debt

2:29:04

that yields two percent interest

2:29:06

and so now if you hold a hundred billion

2:29:09

dollars worth of sovereign debt now if I

2:29:11

double the money supply it's worth half

2:29:12

that much right so so in essence

2:29:17

if I'm increasing the the supply of

2:29:19

dollars by seven percent a year

2:29:22

and if you're holding a hundred billion

2:29:24

dollars of my debt then you're paying

2:29:27

seven billion dollars a year to hold the

2:29:30

so I'm charging you seven billion

2:29:32

dollars

2:29:33

for the privilege of giving you a bank

2:29:35

to put your 100 billion dollars in it's

2:29:38

a negative interest rate right

2:29:40

negative real yield

2:29:42

if you if you do it 10 years in a row I

2:29:44

take 70 billion dollars from you

2:29:46

whoa but the question is what else are

2:29:48

you going to do you're going to put in

2:29:53

if you have a billion dollars what are

2:29:53

you going to put it in the Russians put

2:29:56

it in Gold we just seized the gold

2:30:00

you're gonna buy yacht with it

2:30:02

well I mean we might take the yacht

2:30:04

you're gonna buy land with it

2:30:06

who's land land in another country

2:30:09

I already own all the land in my own

2:30:11

country right so

2:30:14

the U.S primary export is inflation

2:30:20

that's what we do and it's a good it's a

2:30:22

good situation right we're running the

2:30:24

banking system and we're printing more

2:30:26

money our primary export is monetary

2:30:29

call it monetary technology in the form

2:30:32

of the US dollar it's the most desired

2:30:34

instrument and what we trade for it is

2:30:37

uh is we get energy

2:30:39

or we get products or services in return

2:30:41

for exporting the doll

2:30:44

right right now we're on this cusp

2:30:46

because

2:30:51

we're exporting too many dollars

2:30:51

and uh and that causes the collapse of

2:30:55

other countries currencies and when

2:30:58

their currencies collapse their

2:31:00

governments collapse so the U.S the U.S

2:31:02

won't collapse the the first countries

2:31:05

to collapse will be

2:31:06

Zimbabwe

2:31:08

Lebanon

2:31:10

Syria right Iraq Iran right not any

2:31:16

country not Iran but but Afghanistan

2:31:21

South America all throughout

2:31:23

you know

2:31:25

they they're they're all being

2:31:26

destabilized Sri Lanka

2:31:28

so what you have is you have this

2:31:30

Rippling wave of destabilizations in the

2:31:33

developing world you have a weakening

2:31:36

in the developed world

2:31:38

as their currencies weaken they're going

2:31:41

to suffer from inflation if we have

2:31:43

inflation that's eight percent in the US

2:31:46

dollar

2:31:47

and if the Japanese

2:31:49

Yen weakens 24 against the U.S dollar in

2:31:53

one year and if the Japanese have to buy

2:31:56

oil priced in dollars what's their

2:31:58

inflation rate going to be

2:32:00

now right now

2:32:02

the government the official figures

2:32:04

they'll tell you it's low

2:32:06

but and uh you can do that as long as

2:32:09

you as long as you define the metric but

2:32:12

there's only so long you can do it at

2:32:14

the point where nobody can actually

2:32:15

afford to buy gasoline or buy energy and

2:32:19

their cars don't run

2:32:21

and they can't Heat their home

2:32:23

right then you can you can no longer uh

2:32:27

persuade the public that there is no

2:32:29

inflation problem then you have a

2:32:31

problem and now the question is how are

2:32:33

you going to deal with it

2:32:35

and of course there's how does the

2:32:37

government deal with it uh first they'll

2:32:39

persuade you that they won't count this

2:32:42

and then they won't include have you

2:32:45

ever heard the phrase a core inflation

2:32:47

doesn't include the highly volatile food

2:32:49

and energy

2:32:51

I haven't known but there's there's

2:32:53

actually an inflation measure core

2:32:55

inflation that does not include food and

2:32:58

energy so first I'll try to persuade you

2:33:01

not to actually pay attention to the

2:33:03

cost of food and energy

2:33:05

but uh at some point I'll accept it but

2:33:09

I will I will pick a different measure

2:33:11

of food and energy I'm not going to

2:33:13

measure the cost of a stake I'm going to

2:33:15

measure the cost of a soybean Burger

2:33:18

right I'm I'm going to measure the cost

2:33:20

of of manufactured you know agricultural

2:33:24

grain products that are cheaper I'm not

2:33:26

going to measure the cost of of some

2:33:29

organic vegetable that's more expensive

2:33:31

so you'll see a distortion of that and

2:33:34

then at some point

2:33:36

you see a normalization of behavior like

2:33:40

there's the old world economic Forum

2:33:42

mean you know you'll own nothing and

2:33:44

you'll be happy

2:33:45

it's like well I've decided that eating

2:33:48

meat is bad for me

2:33:49

like so first you can't afford it now

2:33:51

you now it's bad for you to eat it so

2:33:54

I'm not really upset that I can't afford

2:33:55

it because it was bad anyway or

2:33:58

um you know if you're a patriot you're

2:34:00

not going to actually cool your home

2:34:02

below 80 degrees in the summer and

2:34:04

you're not going to heat your house yeah

2:34:07

you remember during the energy crisis

2:34:08

you don't remember this in the 70s right

2:34:11

it was your patriotic duty to turn the

2:34:13

thermostat down in the winter and turn

2:34:15

the thermostat up in the summer so

2:34:19

this happens in Wars too right and a war

2:34:21

becomes your patriotic duty to do

2:34:23

without

2:34:25

there's another idea that you've

2:34:26

introduced me to around

2:34:28

um Bitcoin I will choose to interpret it

2:34:32

to carry Beyond Bitcoin though I know

2:34:34

your thoughts and feelings uh at least

2:34:36

vaguely about ethereum but uh this idea

2:34:39

of the value of an irreversible

2:34:42

transaction and what that's going to

2:34:44

mean for cyberspace

2:34:47

um I would I I if you know exactly what

2:34:50

I'm talking about we can just go right

2:34:51

into it or I can give you a paraphrase

2:34:53

of uh when I heard you discuss this

2:34:57

would that help you can go and

2:34:59

paraphrase me but I think I know what

2:35:00

you're talking about okay so yeah I

2:35:03

think this is really really interesting

2:35:05

so you said this this part is a quote uh

2:35:08

everything we've built in cyberspace

2:35:09

there's Shadows of reality as much as we

2:35:12

tell ourselves we built something

2:35:14

functional it's a gross monstrosity of

2:35:16

something functional and now this is my

2:35:19

commentary on that was on the above

2:35:21

quote he was explaining why you need

2:35:23

irreversible transactions to replicate

2:35:25

matter giving bits the same properties

2:35:28

that physical things have including

2:35:29

their adherence to the laws of physics

2:35:31

so that things inside of cyberspace

2:35:34

matter

2:35:35

and I that really blew me away because

2:35:39

it put words to an idea that I've been

2:35:42

trying to explain to people why because

2:35:44

I got into

2:35:46

um cryptocurrency not because I I didn't

2:35:49

understand money investing I wasn't even

2:35:50

thinking about that I was just thinking

2:35:53

about entertainment building an

2:35:55

entertainment company this new

2:35:56

technology that was going to let me do

2:35:57

all this cool stuff but then that leads

2:35:59

you to learning and exploring and all

2:36:02

but the thing that I kept trying to get

2:36:04

people to understand was it now it's

2:36:06

like six or seven years ago somebody

2:36:08

introduced me to nfts they weren't

2:36:10

called that back then and I was like oh

2:36:13

man like this is digital scarcity this

2:36:15

is going to change my business forever

2:36:17

and then I promptly forgot about it

2:36:19

because it wasn't ready and Flash

2:36:21

Forward to 2020 and I get reintroduced

2:36:25

to it I'm like oh this is that digital

2:36:26

scarcity thing but I've always used the

2:36:28

words digital scarcity and it never like

2:36:32

I can see in the person's eyes it

2:36:33

doesn't land the way that I want it to

2:36:35

land but when you started talking about

2:36:38

why people need irreversible

2:36:41

transactions that if you throw a rock

2:36:43

off of a bridge it is going to fall down

2:36:45

and there is no way to take that back

2:36:47

that's just what gravity does I was like

2:36:49

okay that's you know the fact that water

2:36:51

flows to gravity allows you to build

2:36:53

hydroelectric dams uh the fact that an

2:36:56

internal combustion engine works is

2:36:58

because it adheres to laws of physics

2:36:59

that are entirely predictable and so by

2:37:03

creating uh effectively entropy in the

2:37:08

system because people's pushback is why

2:37:10

would you create an irreversible

2:37:11

transaction that's just going to

2:37:12

facilitate fraud if you could undo it if

2:37:14

somebody were money laundering or

2:37:15

whatever you could undo that and you

2:37:17

said when God said let there be light he

2:37:20

introduced entropy but that

2:37:23

things adhering to entropy and the laws

2:37:25

of physics is what allows you to build

2:37:27

all these things on top of it and that

2:37:31

changed my perception of why this is

2:37:34

when I think about building cyberspace

2:37:37

for Real uh that that very thing is

2:37:40

critically important I think you've now

2:37:43

moved us into the domain of Technology

2:37:44

right when I talk about Bitcoin I say

2:37:47

it's an economic imperative because it's

2:37:50

it's perfected money it's a moral parent

2:37:53

imperative because it's the ability to

2:37:55

give property rights 8 billion people

2:37:57

but it's also a technology imperative

2:38:01

it's a technical imperative

2:38:03

because

2:38:05

it represents uh technology to introduce

2:38:08

conservation of energy into cyberspace

2:38:10

or and to create uh matter and energy

2:38:13

and cyberspace digital energy and uh

2:38:18

and uh

2:38:20

if you can actually introduce physics

2:38:24

conservation of energy thermodynamics

2:38:26

into cyberspace

2:38:29

then you can not only clean up

2:38:32

cyberspace but you can Empower uh cyber

2:38:35

actors you can Empower individuals you

2:38:37

can if you combine that with the power

2:38:40

of cryptography

2:38:42

and you know the crypto ethos you know

2:38:44

that you're referring to is is how do we

2:38:47

actually give individuals the ability to

2:38:51

own something without asking permission

2:38:55

of another organization how do you own

2:38:58

it if it's if it's an nft how do you own

2:39:01

that right and how do you you know the

2:39:04

smart contract idea is how do you have

2:39:07

the right to enter in a smart contract

2:39:09

without uh trusted intermediary right

2:39:13

without asking without asking permission

2:39:15

of or relying on a bank or or a legal

2:39:20

team or a court system to enforce your

2:39:23

right right

2:39:26

this idea of of cyber rights

2:39:31

right cyber process cyber property cyber

2:39:35

energy it's a big idea

2:39:38

and I think um

2:39:41

I think the reason I think that Bitcoin

2:39:43

is so powerful is

2:39:45

is because

2:39:52

if I can create a billion dollars of

2:39:52

energy a billion dollars of money that

2:39:55

is transferred between two actors in

2:39:57

cyberspace simply by transferring

2:39:59

private keys or through any number of

2:40:01

other processes right

2:40:04

and I can do that in a millisecond then

2:40:07

I can do that a million times a second

2:40:11

I could do it a billion times an hour I

2:40:13

could do it a billion times an hour

2:40:15

programmatically now I've created

2:40:19

um High Velocity intelligent

2:40:23

money High Velocity intelligent property

2:40:27

right and

2:40:28

the applications are you know are

2:40:31

manifold you can change the way Sales

2:40:33

Systems work you can change the way

2:40:36

marketing works you can change cyber

2:40:39

security to your point and and the real

2:40:42

world I can I can build structures in

2:40:45

the real real world I can build a wall

2:40:47

in the real world and you run into it

2:40:51

right and I don't have to sue you to

2:40:54

stop you from running through the wall

2:40:56

if I had to sue you you would go through

2:40:58

the wall murder me and my family and 18

2:41:01

years later eight years later my appeal

2:41:04

would get to the 37th circuit court and

2:41:07

they would find out that you had broken

2:41:09

the law I would be dead

2:41:11

you know all the Carnage that follows

2:41:13

for the next eight years would have

2:41:15

already taken place and I would have the

2:41:17

court system so courts don't work to

2:41:19

create physical security

2:41:21

any more than you know you can build a

2:41:23

bridge with matter and I can walk across

2:41:26

a crevasse and if I require a legal

2:41:28

Bridge I'd walk across the crevasse

2:41:30

plunge to my death in 18 months later

2:41:33

they would determine that I should be

2:41:35

able to stand but I can't

2:41:37

so you can't engineer anything in in the

2:41:40

world of it you're based on politics and

2:41:42

right now

2:41:43

right now uh this cyberspace is a

2:41:48

political construct and it is not a

2:41:50

physical construct money in cyberspace

2:41:53

is political money

2:41:55

if uh if you ask me for a hundred

2:41:58

dollars and I send it to you by a credit

2:42:00

card I can DK the deal I can go to my

2:42:03

credit card company my bank and say uh I

2:42:05

didn't really do that transaction

2:42:07

they'll reverse the transaction tomorrow

2:42:09

and you'll lose the money

2:42:12

consequences

2:42:13

well what if you ask me for a billion

2:42:16

dollars

2:42:17

and I ask you for a billion dollars of

2:42:19

stuff okay so I want you to give me 10

2:42:22

ships I'll give you a billion dollars

2:42:25

and the next day I just reverse the

2:42:26

credit card transaction and keep your

2:42:28

ships

2:42:29

this is a problem right trade breaks

2:42:32

down because there is no way to settle

2:42:35

in a in a final fashion now what if um

2:42:39

what if you wanted to come and you

2:42:43

wanted uh to interfere with a million

2:42:46

people online

2:42:48

and do ten dollars of damage to each one

2:42:51

well you're going to do a hundred

2:42:52

million dollars of damage using a bot

2:42:56

how do I charge you a hundred million

2:42:58

dollars for doing that damage if I try

2:43:00

to charge with a credit card it doesn't

2:43:02

work so you get to do a hundred million

2:43:04

dollars of damage

2:43:06

uh with uh with no risk because there is

2:43:09

no consequence

2:43:11

if we actually have uh digital money

2:43:14

true digital money which represents

2:43:17

digital energy then I can actually say

2:43:19

to you every time you uh cross this

2:43:22

threshold you have to post ten dollars

2:43:24

and if you cross the threshold with a

2:43:26

million Bots you have to post ten

2:43:28

dollars a million times you have to post

2:43:30

10 million dollars and if I say after

2:43:32

you've crossed the threshold if you then

2:43:34

attempt to murder me

2:43:35

or after you cross the threshold if you

2:43:38

slime me if you know post a phishing

2:43:40

site that's going to defraud me if you

2:43:43

do that a million times it's going to

2:43:45

cost you the forfeiture of your deposit

2:43:47

so you lose 10 million dollars

2:43:50

do it 10 million times could cost you

2:43:52

100 million dollars

2:43:53

if you want to wage in a high speed at

2:43:56

phishing attack on me you can do it

2:43:58

it'll cost you a hundred million dollars

2:44:00

that is the equivalent of driving a

2:44:03

hundred million dollar truck into a 100

2:44:05

million dollar plane into a wall right

2:44:07

something or 100 million dollar ship

2:44:09

into a wall there are real consequences

2:44:12

so when I when I say Bitcoin represents

2:44:16

digital energy

2:44:18

what I'm really saying is

2:44:20

when Satoshi invented a way to transfer

2:44:23

a million dollars of value from me to

2:44:25

you without a trusted intermediary or

2:44:27

third party

2:44:29

not only did they solve the problem of

2:44:31

how to move a million dollars of energy

2:44:33

they also solved the problem with of how

2:44:36

to manifest a million dollars of energy

2:44:39

in the digital realm if I can move it I

2:44:42

can create it and I can store it so now

2:44:45

I can hold a million dollars of energy

2:44:47

now I can hold a million dollars of

2:44:50

energy I have created I

2:44:52

God said let there be light

2:44:55

right Satoshi said

2:44:58

let there be light in essence Satoshi

2:45:00

created

2:45:02

Satoshi made it shine in cyberspace I

2:45:06

say some has created a fire in

2:45:07

cyberspace brought light light is energy

2:45:10

and ultimately energy is matter matter

2:45:13

is energy we introduced matter and

2:45:16

energy into cyberspace

2:45:19

with this idea of a decentralized

2:45:21

network

2:45:22

right uh and once we've done it

2:45:25

you know you can once you've seen it you

2:45:27

can't unsee it

2:45:29

for the most part

2:45:31

um we haven't seen the Breakthrough

2:45:33

applications in cyberspace that will use

2:45:36

it but that but the applications are

2:45:38

pretty obvious for example you know if I

2:45:41

made people post uh ten dollars worth of

2:45:44

digital money in order to uh view a

2:45:49

YouTube video

2:45:50

it would be a ten dollar deposit once in

2:45:52

your life it's no impact on any person

2:45:55

because it's a ten dollar deposit and

2:45:58

you get it back right and actually it

2:46:00

probably accrets in value but on the

2:46:02

other hand when I go on YouTube and I

2:46:04

see Michael sailored you know scam

2:46:07

videos with 20 000 fake viewers

2:46:11

you know sometimes 50 000 people spin up

2:46:14

fake YouTube videos with 50 000 fake

2:46:17

listeners if they had to post ten

2:46:20

dollars each it'd be five hundred

2:46:22

thousand dollar fake fishing attempt

2:46:25

it's not worth five hundred thousand

2:46:27

dollars and so the scammers and the

2:46:29

Fishers that they would not engage in

2:46:32

that behavior if they were penalized uh

2:46:36

via security deposits

2:46:38

so you would clean up all manner of you

2:46:41

know when I post on Twitter

2:46:43

the first 18 comments are Bots it's

2:46:47

actually a CZ bot saying why is nobody

2:46:49

talking you can actually see them

2:46:51

they're right in front of you 37

2:46:53

comments in the first second

2:46:55

the reason they do it is there is no

2:46:58

cost to maliciousness because cyberspace

2:47:01

doesn't have conservation of energy and

2:47:05

creating a world a A Beautiful World

2:47:08

Without matter and energy

2:47:11

right it's like you want to create a

2:47:14

city there's no friction and there's no

2:47:16

materials and there's no energy you

2:47:18

can't do it

2:47:20

what you're creating is this you know

2:47:23

this virtual world that's full of

2:47:25

monstrosities because one what if I

2:47:27

could just snap my fingers and create a

2:47:30

hundred billion demons

2:47:33

to invade every everybody's stream and

2:47:36

everybody's room and everybody's head

2:47:39

and just Bark At You Non-Stop and I

2:47:42

could do that for a penny

2:47:44

all it takes is one person in the human

2:47:46

race to infect everybody with demons and

2:47:49

that's happening right now

2:47:50

on Twitter it's happening inside in

2:47:53

social media you have point one percent

2:47:56

Bad actors that are responsible for

2:48:00

half a million to a million fake

2:48:01

accounts a day on Twitter whoa like you

2:48:05

can't that's 300 million fake accounts a

2:48:09

year you can't stop them because it

2:48:11

doesn't cost anything to launch them

2:48:14

and so in essence the toxicity that's

2:48:17

being pumped into the economy is Extreme

2:48:22

well there's a lot of other applications

2:48:24

of digital energy but

2:48:26

But ultimately the reason this matters

2:48:30

the velocity of money of political money

2:48:33

through cyberspace using a credit card

2:48:35

is about six per year

2:48:39

like I I can send you 500 on a credit

2:48:42

card it takes 90 days to settle

2:48:44

so I can move the money six seven eight

2:48:47

times a year

2:48:49

the velocity of digital and what's the

2:48:53

what's that

2:48:55

the kilohertz frequency of a nice song

2:48:59

yo yo yo if I sing to you think about

2:49:02

the vibration and the velocity you know

2:49:06

and the frequency of that to create

2:49:09

music what's the frequency of a laser

2:49:12

beam what's the frequency of

2:49:14

gravitational beams like if you look at

2:49:18

the way physics Works you're going to

2:49:20

have to move stuff

2:49:23

a million times a second

2:49:25

not six times a year

2:49:28

the velocity of digital energy is

2:49:30

billions and billions not six

2:49:34

might be six billion six billion times

2:49:37

as fast

2:49:39

right like that's how do tides work

2:49:42

that's the moon talking to the Earth

2:49:44

right

2:49:46

weather patterns

2:49:48

you walk across the you know the floor

2:49:51

of friction

2:49:52

heat exchange

2:49:54

vibration right all of these things

2:49:57

they're all critical to the way the

2:50:01

universe works but they're also critical

2:50:03

to the way the civilization works and

2:50:06

right now what we have is cyberspace it

2:50:10

just doesn't work works it's defective

2:50:13

and and everything in it you know that

2:50:17

could be beautiful is ugly if we want to

2:50:20

clean up cyberspace we need digital

2:50:22

energy but but

2:50:24

you know it's it's the same as you look

2:50:26

at New York and you've got skyscrapers

2:50:28

built of Steel up 100 stories

2:50:31

and if I shred it and I tell you you got

2:50:33

to rebuild it with balsa wood what do

2:50:36

you get

2:50:37

and that's that's cyberspace without

2:50:40

digital energy it's like what do you

2:50:43

you have these amorphous structures that

2:50:46

collapse under their own weight over

2:50:50

and and or inflict massive pain and

2:50:53

inefficiency in the economy so just as I

2:50:57

would say the money being defective

2:51:00

that the cost of defective money in the

2:51:02

economy is 10 20 30 trillion dollars a

2:51:05

year it's some it's some obscene amount

2:51:08

of Economic and efficiency because you

2:51:12

know like nothing works right ever all

2:51:16

of your working capital bleeds energy at

2:51:19

a ferocious rate well the cost of uh of

2:51:23

having an ineffective materials in

2:51:25

cyberspace is the same

2:51:28

right it's like you you stop using a

2:51:31

social media thing because the news feed

2:51:33

is toxic

2:51:35

because it's so unpleasant or it's uh

2:51:37

it's uh dangerous

2:51:39

right

2:51:41

so Bitcoin represents like the first and

2:51:45

the greatest instantiation of digital

2:51:47

energy

2:51:49

and uh and the obvious application is

2:51:53

just uh store of value in cyberspace and

2:51:56

that was the first application the other

2:51:59

applications are coming

2:52:01

people have yet to work them all out in

2:52:03

their head and that many of them are

2:52:05

going to be based upon proprietary

2:52:07

protocols and lightning protocols and

2:52:09

the like

2:52:11

I think of your Technologies you can't

2:52:13

ignore it

2:52:15

because if you want to build structures

2:52:18

that are functional for a billion people

2:52:21

that are stable

2:52:22

that'll last a hundred years

2:52:25

yeah you have to do with crypto steel

2:52:27

you have to do it with with the

2:52:29

equivalent of of the reared and metal

2:52:32

right of cyberspace something which is a

2:52:35

hundred X better and in fact this is

2:52:38

this is not 100x better than a credit

2:52:41

card company these credit card companies

2:52:43

move money six times a year and then

2:52:46

after the sixth time they've taken 15

2:52:48

percent of the money

2:52:50

whoa right think about two and a half

2:52:52

percent transaction fee six times

2:52:56

so you can move a billion dollar block

2:52:59

of money six times a year for a hundred

2:53:02

fifty million dollars that's what

2:53:04

happens right now and it only works for

2:53:06

a small portion of the civilization

2:53:09

what if I told you you could move money

2:53:12

six times a second or six times a

2:53:15

millisecond for nothing

2:53:18

the money not only is it bleeding 15

2:53:21

percent of its value a year uh due to

2:53:24

transaction fees is bleeding another

2:53:26

fifteen percent of its value a year due

2:53:28

to the devaluation of the base unit

2:53:31

currency so you're losing 30 percent of

2:53:34

your value of your money or your loot

2:53:36

your money is cut in half every two and

2:53:39

a half years

2:53:41

like that's

2:53:43

that's like building a ship you know

2:53:46

with balsa wood

2:53:48

en ships might last 20 30 40 years a

2:53:52

steel ship will last hundreds of years

2:53:53

if you patch it correctly

2:53:56

you know why don't you just build a ship

2:53:58

out of bubble gum you know or taco

2:54:00

shells

2:54:02

right it's like it's the materials are

2:54:04

so defective that you laugh because you

2:54:07

wouldn't even bother right I mean you

2:54:09

wouldn't even bother to try to cross the

2:54:11

Atlantic a ship full of taco shells you

2:54:14

know with cotton candy or rubber bands

2:54:16

holding it together it's just a joke

2:54:19

but that's kind of what we have in many

2:54:22

cases in the digital realm right now

2:54:26

we have imperfect materials and the and

2:54:30

the struggle

2:54:31

the real fight in the crypto world is

2:54:34

how do I Define a [ __ ] how do I how do I

2:54:37

create a crypto system that has a

2:54:40

reasonable chance of holding its

2:54:41

integrity and security a hundred years

2:54:43

from now

2:54:45

right that's why there's this obsession

2:54:47

over well you know node size I can't I

2:54:50

can't centralize the nodes I want

2:54:52

everybody to run their own node

2:54:54

I don't want nodes to run on AWS or

2:54:57

Google

2:54:58

I want everybody to run this I I want it

2:55:01

to run on Hardware you know on a

2:55:03

Raspberry Pi in my house

2:55:05

I want everything open I want anybody I

2:55:09

want it to be outside the control of a

2:55:10

company I don't want a foundation I

2:55:13

don't want a nation state I don't want

2:55:16

anybody to get too influential I don't

2:55:19

want to be organized I don't want a

2:55:20

centralized group of developers I don't

2:55:22

want developers to be able to do

2:55:24

anything to it the the doing of things

2:55:27

is what's causing all the problems in

2:55:29

the world it's it's well-meaning

2:55:31

centralized actors that want to help you

2:55:34

and they keep introducing this policy

2:55:37

that they apply to everyone that creates

2:55:40

that introduces fragility

2:55:43

ended the civilization and inadvertently

2:55:46

is crippling to all of us

2:55:49

I think that's the opportunity we have

2:55:51

if we if we properly understand this

2:55:54

technology

2:55:56

we have the opportunity to create

2:55:59

things of beauty and substance that

2:56:02

exist in the digital realm beyond the

2:56:04

reach of a political institution or a

2:56:08

commercial institution so at 1997 it was

2:56:13

growing 63 a year and it was 140 million

2:56:15

users of the internet

2:56:17

in 2021 there are 140 million crypto

2:56:21

users and it's growing at 113 a year

2:56:25

which is double the speed now this is

2:56:27

where humans struggle

2:56:28

linear numbers and exponential numbers

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