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The Virtues of Strong Money | The Saylor Series | Episode 7 (WiM007)

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they're dominating because they're able

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deliver Force

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faster harder stronger smarter

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so if we ask the question what is money

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money is the highest form of energy that

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human beings can Channel

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Bitcoin is channeling human Ingenuity

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into making it better

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and and every commodity is channeling

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human energy into making it worse the

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low brow or the the

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historic colloquial term is total right

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hold on for dear life and just total or

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save whatever and the highbrow term

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would be adopt as a treasury Reserve

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essay

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hey guys so as you've learned uh by

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watching the what is money show Bitcoin

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is the single most important asset you

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can own the world today

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and so this begs the question which I'm

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often asked how does one build their

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Bitcoin position

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and the strategy really is simple I

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suggest first you decide on an initial

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portfolio percentage allocation and a

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Target portfolio percentage allocation

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go ahead and establish the initial

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position with a one-time buy and then

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start dollar cost averaging towards your

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target portfolio percentage and you can

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also complement this by buying bitcoin

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price tips to further increase that

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position and reduce your cost basis and

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finally I suggest to everyone to take

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custody of their Bitcoin to move all of

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their Bitcoin into self-sovereign

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custody because again Bitcoin left on

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Exchange is not Bitcoin it's a Bitcoin

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Freedom truth and virtue in the world

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through Bitcoin all right thanks

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all right guys we are back with sailor

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series episode seven and today we're

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going to be diving even deeper into

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Bitcoin Theory and as always if you guys

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haven't seen episodes one through six

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that led us to this point I highly

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suggest you go and check those out

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um they they build a lot of foundation

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that we draw upon continually as we

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progress further into the series

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So today we're going to discuss Bitcoin

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as a monetary missile which if you

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remember from episode one uh missiles

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were one of the the quintessential Stone

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Age Technologies so we're going to draw

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analogies to that

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we're also going to talk about Bitcoin

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as the creature that never sleeps uh

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akin to the great Kraken itself

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um and why this makes it a superior form

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of money uh we'll also look at the

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effects of humans intervening in complex

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systems and what that does

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um two complex systems and the

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consequences that it generates

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and then finally we'll look at the some

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of the reasons why Bitcoin may actually

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be the sole sound store value for the

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21st century uh we'll compare it to

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Alternatives and draw

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um reasons why it is superior across a

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number of dimensions then we're going to

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get into the the televian concept of via

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negativa and how it relates to Bitcoin

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in technology more generally finally

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we get into a really interesting aspect

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of Bitcoin

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um not often discussed and that is the

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we we look at the fanaticism of Bitcoin

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maximalists as an asset as a a value

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creator for this asset class itself

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um and that leads us naturally into the

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discussion of Bitcoin as a religion so

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I'm going to go deep again today and

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really excited for this one so let's

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Dive In Bitcoin is a monetary technology

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that we're able to deliver with much

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more Force

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force and the physics definition being

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mass times acceleration or mass also

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being equal to energy so we're able to

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channel this energy in a very targeted

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and specified format at a very high

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speed and recalibrate almost

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instantaneously to always optimize our

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yield right wasn't it doesn't it sound

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like a cruise missile yeah

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or projectile weapon

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right

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and we're back we're back to the issue

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of what happened to the guys without the

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when the guys with the gun showed up

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right into the guys without the

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airplanes when the guys with the

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airplanes showed up

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sir you're holding The High Ground the

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proverbial High Ground behind the wall

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of encrypted energy but you can also

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send these Financial or uh I guess call

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them Financial weapons in a way

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out in a very targeted fashion based on

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what the Market's signaling right what's

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the demand for for loans or what have

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yeah in theory right isn't a crypto Bank

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the smartest fastest strongest Financial

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entity in the world

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right

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right because it's going to be working

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while everybody's sleeping

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just like

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just like YouTube and Facebook and apple

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networks they're working while you're

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sleeping 24 7 365.

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and to a certain extent you see that

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metaphorically if you just look at uh

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you know a crypto exchange and you look

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at the trading of Bitcoin and it's

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working while you're sleeping if you try

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to watch it you get exhausted

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right all all traditional assets are

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constructed to trade from 9 30 in the in

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the morning till four in the evening

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because human beings needed to watch

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over them and that's about the maximum

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you know endurance of a human being and

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uh Bitcoin you know when you go when you

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go beyond that right you're going from

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like 35 hours a week

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to 168 hours a week it's five times as

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much people think oh it's a little bit

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more it's not a little bit more

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right it's it's 5x the bandwidth just

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the trading and then when you consider

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that it's trading

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it's trading every hour in every

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currency pair everywhere yeah everywhere

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on on a host of exchanges this is um

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extremely high bandwidth

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price Discovery transparency

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right the highest bandwidth price

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Discovery the highest bandwidth Market

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of any security

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of any asset ever right I mean I mean

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Bitcoin really is the perfected asset or

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at least the Apex asset in uh the

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financial jungle because it's the

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creature that never sleeps

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that's an octopus that's working

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everywhere all the time I mean that the

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you know the metaphor of Kraken it's a

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pretty good metaphor yeah really because

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it's always going and it's never

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stopping

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and remember

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back to our previous discussion I was

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saying in Jurassic Park you know and the

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guy picks a fight with the little

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dinosaur and then he realized there's a

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hundred of those little dinosaurs

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and they don't sleep

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and when you pick a fight with the Swarm

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and the Swarm doesn't sleep and you

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sleep you realize you're gonna lose

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you're you're doomed

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there's that point when you realize

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you're doomed because

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you can't keep up with a software

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creature with a million heads that is

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continuously working everywhere all the

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time and here's the thing you know the

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thing that's working that's dominating

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the market in Bitcoin all the time

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it's the strongest version of the

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creature in that domain not the weakest

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right right

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the weak parts of the herd get called

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out they're being deprived of their

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Capital they're being squeezed out you

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know and you see it with like the mount

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gox disaster you know anything that

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doesn't quite work and so this asset

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class is a living asset class and its

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strength comes from the fact that

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that uh it's being developed

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it's not um it's not constrained by uh

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the lowest common denominator it's

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strengthened by the highest common

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denominator right if there's somebody in

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the world if there's if there's an

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exchange in the world that can actually

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do this better faster stronger and it

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comes on to the Bitcoin Network

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they will set the price right right and

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even if you're just huddling if you're

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just sitting there holding an asset

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let's say I'm holding a hundred million

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dollars in Bitcoin and I'm wishing it

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would go up in value and then let's say

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there's a million gazillion laws in the

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United States that prevent people from

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Trading index Futures on bitcoin

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but somebody in Malta is able to do it

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or somebody in Singapore is able to

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launch that exchange so Singapore

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launches an exchange that matches

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billions of dollars of forward index

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buyers or option buyers to billions of

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dollars of call buyers and that attracts

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tens of billions of dollars of capital

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in the market because it solves the

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yield curve problem let's say

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hypothetically somebody on a centralized

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or decentralized exchange or lightning

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that resolves a yoker problem if I could

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give you eight percent risk free

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yield on 10-year money presumably you

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can take 100 billion dollars and you can

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take that money and you can short

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short the dollar go along the Bitcoin

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squeeze the eight percent yield on 100

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billion dollars make yourself eight

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billion dollars a year

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if you can figure out how to do that in

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Singapore

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you set up in Singapore you do it in

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Singapore what happens to the price of

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Bitcoin

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goes up

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what happened to the hodler sitting in

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Schenectady New York that never did

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anything that didn't touch it that

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doesn't know about it that doesn't

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understand it with their little one

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Bitcoin has been strengthened

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the network is getting stronger based on

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the highest common denominator anybody

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in the world that with a better idea

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that plugs in the network is lifting

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everybody

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and that's totally different

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than a conventional centralized

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traditional structure where one

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regulator might create one set of rules

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that can strain and hobble

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yeah right thank you buddy the asymmetry

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has been inverted right from the Great

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Wall of China or if there's one failure

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at any point the whole thing's

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compromised but now it's you inverted

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that asymmetry such that if there's one

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benefit it benefits everyone

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and that's what it's like when you got a

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swarm if if the herd is attacked by a

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predator and one of the creatures

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figures out how to kill the predator

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couldn't figure it out die the ones that

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do figure out live they procreate pretty

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soon they can all kill the Predator

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right they all have got immunity

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right that's herd immunity whatever that

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might be

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and um and that's the beauty of Bitcoin

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you know I I had this uh I had this

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tweet because you know I put it out

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there I said

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you know Lions get tired of

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using the antelope

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Lions complain to the ranger the ranger

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hobbles the antelope

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Lions get fat dumb and happy Antelope

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all die

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Lions all die

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range of blames on the weather

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right

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and that is a metaphor for a lot of

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stuff

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but generally it's it's a metaphor for

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how you uh how you destroy a crypto

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Network

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by trying to make transaction fees lower

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it's like someone complained about

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transaction fees so we try to change

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everything to drive the transaction fees

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down because somehow it's abomination in

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the eyes of God that people get charged

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for transactions

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the antelope ran too fast not fairs

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brought them down the transaction fees

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were too high not fair make them lower

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we'll hobble them for you okay it's also

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a metaphor for interest rates

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interest rates are too high I can't

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afford a loan make them go down

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it's also a metaphor for competition my

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competitor goes too fast they're making

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it too difficult slow them down make the

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foreigners stop that make somebody do

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something right it's it's somebody

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trying to regulate or manage something

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because they think it's a problem

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but at the end of the day

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you're messing with Mother Nature right

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you're in a war with nature it's not

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going to end well at the end of the day

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Lazy Lion should die

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and slow Antelope get eaten

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and fast strong healthy Antelope

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procreate and fast strong healthy Lions

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feed and the Lions get better and the

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antelope get better and they live in an

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ecosystem and if you remove the predator

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you know all sorts of crazy bad things

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happen you know these are off the

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balance

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this goes

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all the way back to your original point

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that there's no fair fight in the world

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right and that when human intervention

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tries to make that fight more fair

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the intervention into a complex system

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throws off all these unintended

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consequences and I think that is one of

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the things that's gotten us into the

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situation we're in today with low and

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negative interest rates right we've

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constantly trying to introduce an

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economic analgesic to paper over the

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business cycle or paper over losses

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um and we're just we've distorted the

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natural price Discovery function of the

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market and so now we're in this we're in

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these totally asinine times with uh you

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know stock market at all-time high and

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40 million people unemployed so I think

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the and this is one of taleb's main

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themes is human beings have to strive to

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not intervene with Mother Nature like if

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Mother Nature has been doing executing a

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certain strategy for a long time we have

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to assume that it's being done for a

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reason no matter what science tells us

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you know it interest rate is the time

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value of money but if but if interest

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rate is the time value of money it's the

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time value of energy

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and if it's the time value of energy

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interest rate

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is the value of time and and maybe if we

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come back to thermodynamics the rule of

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thermodynamics is time cannot go

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backwards

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entropy is it time must move forward

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try to drive interest rates to zero or

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negative is a war on time

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you're trying to make time go backwards

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you're trying to make water flow uphill

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you're trying to reverse gravity you're

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trying to reverse the laws of

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thermodynamics

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it's it's me saying to you Robert you

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know will you give me everything that

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you own

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give it to me

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you go without I'm going to keep it

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and when you die

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I'm going to give a third of it back to

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your heirs

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right and and so

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the only way you would do that is if you

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thought the future of your life had

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negative value

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right like if you knew you were going to

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be a Serial Ax Murderer killer and you

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knew it in advance and you thought you

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know I should be deprived of the future

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of my life because I'm really a

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liability to

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Humanity Maybe

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but if you actually thought that the

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future had any value

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you couldn't make that trade right no

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rational person would say I'm going to

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give you everything I have in return for

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half of it back when I'm dead right it's

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so moronic right it's just insane and so

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when I'm trying to drive the interest

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to zero or negative

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I'm actually trying to reverse time and

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make it run backwards I'm first trying

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to stop it and I'm trying to make it run

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backwards I'm trying to reverse entropy

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I'm trying to put the genie back in the

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bottle

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thermodynamics the laws of physics the

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laws of humanity they all say it can't

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be done

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right and and only something you know

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catastrophic will ensue let me ask you

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so this is interesting we have a legacy

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Financial system that's trying to grind

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against or move countervailing to the

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laws of thermodynamics or the

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thermodynamic Arrow of time and here we

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have this new system introduced in the

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form of Bitcoin that more that nearly

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perfectly mirrors the laws of

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thermodynamics it aligns itself with the

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arrow of time and the thermodynamic

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Arrow of time

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it seems almost serendipitous that

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Bitcoin is released at this time when

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the system is starting to come apart in

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this decade do you think this is almost

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like an autoimmune response by the the

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global human hive mind

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[Music]

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because

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you know look at what Satoshi put in the

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Genesis block

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right

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you know it's pretty clear

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that Satoshi was uh was troubled

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right was was inspired

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at you know antagonized irritated

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enough right to do this humans solve

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problems right and and so if I if I

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introduce a pathogen into you your body

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right your body reacts living creatures

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react to protect themselves

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so if someone is sensitive

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sensitive to a given issue and Satoshi

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was sensitive to financial integrity

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right and obviously he had some decent

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sensitivity and awareness of Austrian

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economics and and The Perils of

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inflation and and the

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um moral hazard of Bank bailout so that

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was a sensitive

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individual that tapped into a bunch of

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other sensitive nodes individuals who

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shared that

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and it's almost like uh I picked I I

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pricked you with a needle and I

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introduced this little pathogen and then

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you swallow that and there was some

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inflammation and the inflammation you

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know grew and festered and some

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antibodies built an organism built and

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the organism got bigger and it got

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bigger and it got bigger and then it got

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fed if

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if we had zero inflation of if the U.S

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dollar monetary Supply in expanded by

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zero percent for the past decade

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how much passion would there be in the

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Bitcoin Community compared to the amount

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of passion there is today

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be much less

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so so it's a we're back to this issue

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but it's a great technology

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and um

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yeah it's inevitable what you know we're

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back to this issue of of Zoom was

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inevitable

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you know uh

0:21:58

YouTube was inevitable

0:22:00

virtual uh virtual business models were

0:22:05

Bitcoin was inevitable but it sure did

0:22:09

get accelerated by certain things that

0:22:12

happened Bitcoin had 10 years of um of I

0:22:17

would say a seven percent forcing

0:22:19

function with the dollar and it got

0:22:21

Goose a bit harder in with Argentina and

0:22:25

and other developing world countries

0:22:28

you know the anxiety of Syria and the

0:22:30

anxiety of Iraq and the anxiety in

0:22:32

Africa and the anxiety in South America

0:22:34

and the like so those stressors and the

0:22:37

issues that that boosted and the

0:22:40

currency Wars pushed a bit harder

0:22:44

and then I think the pandemic crisis let

0:22:48

it on fire I could say Robert like

0:22:51

there's no way I'm talking to you if

0:22:53

there's no pandemic that's right like

0:22:55

like uh so but I I don't

0:22:59

I don't think for a second that Bitcoin

0:23:02

wouldn't be successful without me and

0:23:05

and I don't think that it's anybody

0:23:07

going to stop it but I do think there's

0:23:10

an avalanche of of uh energy

0:23:15

of individuals and corporations that got

0:23:18

inspired and and driven you know uh into

0:23:23

this ecosystem because of the pandemic

0:23:27

doctor you know again back to war wars

0:23:30

caused Paradigm shifts

0:23:32

and this year

0:23:34

there's a currency War

0:23:36

and and that's a war on money as a store

0:23:40

of value right and and that war on money

0:23:45

as a store of value creates massive

0:23:47

dislocations in the bond market and the

0:23:49

equity market and there are consequences

0:23:52

to everything

0:23:54

and uh and ultimately Bitcoin is a

0:23:58

platform

0:23:59

an anti-fragile fragile but scalable

0:24:04

serving as a store of value

0:24:06

and so the best possible circumstance

0:24:09

would be if the entire world plunged

0:24:12

into a war where a value is dissipating

0:24:16

in every currency everywhere at a rapid

0:24:19

and I think that describes what we have

0:24:22

today I think it's exactly correct and

0:24:24

it's almost as if the Mongols breached

0:24:27

the Great Wall of China right the

0:24:29

Mongols being

0:24:31

um central banks that are basically

0:24:33

robbing value from currency and it's

0:24:35

it's giving people more of an impetus to

0:24:39

evaluate Alternatives and to for those

0:24:41

that see it to retreat behind the wall

0:24:43

of encrypted energy right you have to

0:24:45

defend your life force your energy your

0:24:47

money

0:24:48

um from confiscation and the most

0:24:50

prevalent form of confiscation in the

0:24:53

world today is inflation

0:24:56

but I guess that's what makes it takes

0:24:59

us our next subject which is Bitcoin is

0:25:01

a store of value

0:25:02

right Bitcoin Bitcoin is is an

0:25:06

incredible store of value I think that's

0:25:09

it's primary use case so it's it's it's

0:25:12

it's killer killer value proposition now

0:25:16

and probably for the next decade and and

0:25:18

maybe forever but but

0:25:20

the entire world's looking for a store

0:25:23

of value right now and

0:25:26

you have to look across 250 trillion

0:25:29

dollars in assets so if if we think that

0:25:32

asset inflation is running north of 10

0:25:34

and I think it is I think it's pretty

0:25:36

pretty clear it is

0:25:42

and if you have capital

0:25:42

you have to choose between bonds you

0:25:44

know 80

0:25:45

trillion dollars in sovereign debt or

0:25:47

corporate debt or Municipal debt

0:25:50

or if or or mortgage-backed Securities

0:25:53

or you got to choose equities Tech

0:25:56

Equity conventional Equity or you got to

0:25:58

go to precious metals or you go to real

0:26:00

property real estate property and

0:26:04

when you look at all those things the

0:26:06

problem is half of all real estate is

0:26:08

impaired because of the because of the

0:26:11

political response to covid

0:26:13

uh and uh it's not likely that's going

0:26:17

to change in the next 10 years we've

0:26:20

probably got

0:26:21

10 years of of uh uncertainty about real

0:26:26

estate assets especially commercial real

0:26:28

estate assets

0:26:29

the other challenge is with real estate

0:26:32

the taxes on it it's it's liquid

0:26:35

immobile

0:26:36

and highly taxed generally real estate

0:26:39

is taxed annually

0:26:41

everywhere right it's just a question of

0:26:43

whether it's 20 basis points or 200

0:26:45

basis points right so that that makes

0:26:48

real estate a challenging store of value

0:26:49

and that takes you to bonds

0:26:52

and bonds bonds have worked as a store

0:26:54

of value when interest rates keep going

0:26:56

lower you can see that everybody's been

0:26:59

on the bond train and benefiting from it

0:27:02

they're screaming as loud as they can

0:27:05

they want negative interest rates

0:27:06

because they're like I just that the

0:27:09

secret to success is lower the interest

0:27:11

rates 50 basis points a year or 100

0:27:13

basis points a year and it's a no lose

0:27:15

proposition for them

0:27:17

but at this point it's getting kind of

0:27:19

ridiculous silly because when interest

0:27:22

rates go negative already money

0:27:23

everybody takes their money out of the

0:27:25

bank it creates Bank runs all the bank

0:27:27

systems break it's it's

0:27:30

kind of a morally bankrupt

0:27:33

I mean a lot of people

0:27:36

they don't really understand that uh

0:27:38

that they're being abused at two percent

0:27:40

instead of five percent

0:27:42

but pretty much everybody can figure out

0:27:44

that when you're being billed one

0:27:46

percent of the money you have abused

0:27:48

yeah and again if you look at money as

0:27:51

that insurance policy on uncertainty all

0:27:54

of a sudden that policy has negative

0:27:55

value like it does it's it's just

0:27:57

asinine it doesn't make any economic

0:27:59

sense

0:28:01

yeah so

0:28:02

that doesn't work and so what does that

0:28:05

take us uh it takes us to equity

0:28:08

we got an equity bubble it's a very

0:28:09

crowded trade but the real issue with

0:28:11

Equity is a store of value is that is

0:28:14

that uh the revenues get taxed the sales

0:28:16

tax the cash flows get taxed as income

0:28:20

the expenses uh the co the cost

0:28:23

structure gets taxed as employee and

0:28:25

payroll tax

0:28:27

then then the trade gets taxed as a

0:28:29

tariff

0:28:30

then you have the existential threat or

0:28:33

regulatory risk of onerous regulations

0:28:35

you pick up the paper and see maybe

0:28:38

Australia is going to build Google every

0:28:41

time they link to a newspaper article

0:28:44

or and then if Google doesn't link the

0:28:46

newspaper articles they're going to get

0:28:48

fined for not linking the newspaper

0:28:49

articles and you know you as these

0:28:52

things become more powerful they become

0:28:54

regulated utilities and and politicians

0:28:57

start to think that they can and should

0:28:59

be regulated and you know maybe with

0:29:02

good cause if if there's only one

0:29:06

provider of information anywhere in the

0:29:09

country then it definitely becomes

0:29:10

political issue so

0:29:12

that's a challenge with equities

0:29:14

eventually

0:29:15

they might work for two three four years

0:29:18

but but they're valued as a multiple

0:29:21

cash flows

0:29:22

so if all of the liquidity in the

0:29:25

civilization gets squeezed out of debt

0:29:28

right when interest gets to zero the

0:29:30

government the government and the FED

0:29:32

owns all the debt okay they bought me

0:29:35

now I got to put it in something else so

0:29:37

I jump on Equity so now equity's double

0:29:40

but now the pdes double or triple and

0:29:43

the revenue multiples triple

0:29:46

if uh what's the value of an equity the

0:29:49

value of equity should in theory be you

0:29:51

know the tangible assets on the balance

0:29:53

sheet plus the sum of the discounted

0:29:54

cash flows

0:29:56

and so you people are using equities as

0:29:59

store of value today

0:30:01

right in fact you can make the argument

0:30:03

that equities are the most popular store

0:30:05

of value for for the majority you know

0:30:07

with the Robin Hood trading they're all

0:30:09

buying Apple Amazon Facebook NASDAQ

0:30:11

spiders everybody even though

0:30:15

even though nobody thinks revenues are

0:30:18

going up this year nobody thinks

0:30:19

earnings are going up this year but

0:30:21

Equity value is a double this year right

0:30:23

yeah well that means that they're

0:30:25

getting riskier

0:30:27

so if you contrast Bitcoin to equity the

0:30:30

problem is

0:30:31

if if the price of an equity goes up by

0:30:33

a factor of 10 you've got more risk

0:30:36

because it's delaminating from its

0:30:39

underlying cash flows and its

0:30:40

fundamentals because it it is a

0:30:43

centralized regulated entity and the

0:30:46

only way that the cash flows are going

0:30:48

to grow uh into that value is they keep

0:30:53

raising the price and if they're

0:30:54

Monopoly and they raise the price The

0:30:56

Regulators will react if they don't

0:30:58

raise the price they can't grow into the

0:31:00

multiple

0:31:01

and uh and so you're kind of a chicken

0:31:03

in the egg thing right at the price and

0:31:06

if there's any competition and their

0:31:08

cash flows deteriorate eventually you're

0:31:11

trading at 200

0:31:13

to you know to one or or 200 P to E

0:31:18

H and uh and then any degree of

0:31:21

disappointment causes massive volatility

0:31:23

right

0:31:25

um they don't

0:31:26

uh how are they different than Bitcoin

0:31:28

well bitcoin's value proposition is the

0:31:32

liquidity it is the store of value that

0:31:35

is it it's if you're going to function

0:31:38

as money you want to be a single-celled

0:31:40

organism this simple like the algae of

0:31:43

the Eagles the base layer of the

0:31:45

ecosystem is plankton or or bacteria or

0:31:49

single cells you don't want to be a

0:31:52

vertebrate

0:31:53

and and these companies are vertebrates

0:31:55

where the brain and a backbone and that

0:31:58

means for example

0:32:00

WeChat or or Tick Tock it has a

0:32:03

headquarters and if it's in the wrong

0:32:04

country it gets its head chopped off

0:32:07

right you know and you know apple and

0:32:10

Facebook they're subject to a certain

0:32:11

Court a certain country's jurisdiction

0:32:13

so that means they're foreign or

0:32:15

somewhere else they're vertebrates if

0:32:18

you're a vertebrate

0:32:19

I can kill you with a needle right like

0:32:22

a human being I can figure out how to

0:32:23

kill right there's a heart I take a

0:32:25

needle I poke there you're gone and very

0:32:28

fragile hard to do that with a swarm of

0:32:31

hornets

0:32:32

hard to do that with all the plankton in

0:32:34

the ocean

0:32:35

it's very difficult to deal with it with

0:32:38

a an amorphous decentralized

0:32:40

invertebrate of some sort so if you want

0:32:44

to store a value

0:32:46

you don't want a company that's valued

0:32:48

based upon the ability to engineer hyper

0:32:51

complicated products that have to keep

0:32:53

getting upgraded you want something

0:32:56

which is simple

0:32:58

they can just keep being simple what

0:33:00

that this is again where some of the

0:33:03

crypto enthusiasts they keep wanting to

0:33:04

Tinker with a you know a better

0:33:06

blockchain a better crypto a better they

0:33:09

you know they never saw an upgrade they

0:33:10

didn't like so they just want to keep

0:33:12

revving it every year this is like it's

0:33:14

the iPhone version 37. right there's a

0:33:18

fundamental difference which is if

0:33:20

there's a bug an iPhone version 37

0:33:22

everybody in the world's heart doesn't

0:33:24

stop right I think this this analogy

0:33:27

you're using with with the Simplicity of

0:33:30

plankton

0:33:31

right being the base layer for the

0:33:33

ecosystem is apt

0:33:35

because and I

0:33:36

um I want to say Plankton makes up the

0:33:38

majority of the biomass on the planet by

0:33:41

like a pretty substantial margin because

0:33:43

it's so simple and it's so efficient at

0:33:45

converting solar energy into bio

0:33:48

biological energy right and then it feed

0:33:51

it is the base layer for this

0:33:53

multiplicity of layered ecosystem that

0:33:56

we have in the world and another thing I

0:33:58

think is interesting is you make a great

0:33:59

point that equities are becoming more

0:34:01

risky as the increase in price because

0:34:04

they're they're delaminating from their

0:34:06

valuation fundamentals as you said and

0:34:08

bitcoin's the opposite right actually

0:34:10

the more valuable Bitcoin is the more

0:34:12

secure its Network the greater the

0:34:13

liquidity

0:34:15

um the more resistant it is to attack so

0:34:18

it's it's a very interesting counter

0:34:20

trade to to equities as a store of value

0:34:23

and of course if you have an individual

0:34:25

entity with an individual headquarters

0:34:28

and a CEO as it gets bigger it becomes a

0:34:31

bigger Target mm-hmm

0:34:34

but maybe maybe everybody in your home

0:34:36

country loves you but what about

0:34:38

everybody in every other country right

0:34:42

does you know so

0:34:44

you don't want to head

0:34:46

and you don't want to be a Target

0:34:48

and you don't want to be valued based on

0:34:50

cash flows if you're going to be money

0:34:52

like what it's they're the right but

0:34:55

they're the right creature to be uh

0:34:57

building a device or maybe creating an

0:35:00

exchange or creating an application

0:35:01

because there

0:35:03

I want um I want the software to run a

0:35:06

billion times faster and so it's okay to

0:35:09

have one company write software

0:35:11

right the question is I wanted to run a

0:35:14

billion times faster but do I need it to

0:35:16

last for a thousand years

0:35:18

and the answer is I can throw my phone

0:35:21

away and Western Civilization will not

0:35:24

end if I lose my phone or if you screw

0:35:27

up my phone right it will not end if I

0:35:30

put all the energy in western

0:35:32

civilization or that's prejudicial if I

0:35:35

put all the energy into civilization

0:35:37

or of civilization into a network a

0:35:41

crypto Network

0:35:43

I can't afford for someone to like ship

0:35:46

a buggy release

0:35:47

so so and again what people forget is

0:35:53

if I put a billion dollars in the

0:35:55

Bitcoin

0:35:56

on January 1st 2021 and I don't touch it

0:36:00

for a hundred years

0:36:03

the thing is working

0:36:06

it's you know truly insanely great

0:36:09

technology

0:36:11

is um is uh

0:36:15

okay we're back to Nicholas taleb is

0:36:18

haunting our thoughts via negativa right

0:36:21

ah yes God by taking away

0:36:23

insanely great technology is when it

0:36:27

does a thing without you doing a thing

0:36:31

right but you know a junior technologist

0:36:34

they create gadgets I have um an app I

0:36:38

have a mobile application

0:36:40

it has 150 features and 150 buttons and

0:36:44

if you click and there's a billion

0:36:46

different things it can do depending

0:36:47

upon the combination of the buttons and

0:36:49

the features you click on okay that's

0:36:50

one thing how about another mobile app

0:36:53

you download the mobile app and

0:36:56

everywhere you walk on earth it kills

0:36:58

all your enemies and and gives you

0:37:00

infinite food and water and protection

0:37:02

and plays whatever music you wanted to

0:37:04

hear around you without you touching it

0:37:08

hands-free

0:37:09

right

0:37:11

you know if I walk around and someone

0:37:12

walks behind me and they do everything I

0:37:14

want you know before I ask them to do it

0:37:18

without me opening my mouth isn't that a

0:37:21

heck of a lot better

0:37:23

than a gadgety thing with features yeah

0:37:26

it's higher utility right yeah I think

0:37:29

it's saying exubery the Design's not

0:37:32

done it's not a perfect design until

0:37:33

there's nothing left to remove and so if

0:37:37

I told you

0:37:39

take all your money put into Bitcoin

0:37:47

and then you'll be rich and happy and

0:37:47

prosperous for all of eternity without

0:37:49

doing a single transaction

0:37:57

that's a lot better idea right that's a

0:37:57

great point I think you need more

0:37:59

features and more gadgety things I just

0:38:02

need it to always work right right right

0:38:07

and just one of these is vapor around me

0:38:12

you're right absolutely I just to give

0:38:15

the listeners uh a little bit of context

0:38:17

on Via negativa for those who haven't uh

0:38:20

read to lab

0:38:21

is canonical examples in his book The

0:38:24

Black Swan where you can see as many

0:38:27

white swans as you want

0:38:29

but you can never prove by virtue of

0:38:32

that evidence that all swans are white

0:38:35

but with a single sighting of a Black

0:38:37

Swan you have disproven that all swans

0:38:40

are white so the the moral of the the

0:38:42

story is that disconfirmation is more

0:38:45

rigorous than confirmation

0:38:48

right and I think that's getting to your

0:38:50

point here is that

0:38:52

[Music]

0:38:54

getting stronger by taking away right

0:38:57

your your factual base on what you're

0:39:00

building your premise and strategy in

0:39:02

the world is strengthened by by

0:39:04

disconfirmation more so than it is

0:39:06

confirmation

0:39:08

all right and I'll give you another

0:39:09

example that

0:39:10

we see all the time with Google you go

0:39:13

into Google uh you you ask the wrong

0:39:17

question

0:39:18

and misspell it and it gives you the

0:39:21

right answer

0:39:27

that's that's a truly Great Piece of

0:39:27

software you asked the wrong question

0:39:29

and it gives you the right answer

0:39:31

because it knows what question you

0:39:33

should ask it knows how you should have

0:39:35

spelled it and it said we're going to

0:39:37

answer this question for you instead

0:39:39

because the odds that you really wanted

0:39:42

to know you know uh this question

0:39:45

answered is 99 million to one the odds

0:39:49

that you really were asking a unique

0:39:51

question that seems foolish and

0:39:54

misspelling a popular name while you're

0:39:55

asking that's one in a billion so if you

0:39:59

really wanted to ask the wrong question

0:40:01

the wrong way you tried twice

0:40:04

but 99.999 of the time

0:40:08

they give you the right answer to the

0:40:10

wrong question

0:40:11

and uh and

0:40:13

they do it because they build like this

0:40:16

uh very false tolerant Common Sense

0:40:19

rational interface

0:40:21

and uh

0:40:23

so that back to the store of value right

0:40:25

Bitcoin is

0:40:27

it's an ideal store of value because

0:40:34

thank you

0:40:36

got it's got the ability to convey

0:40:39

your energy

0:40:42

not across 10 000 miles but across 10

0:40:46

000 days

0:40:48

30 years in the future

0:40:50

100 years in the future most people when

0:40:52

they're investing in assets they're

0:40:54

taking this very short-term view of like

0:40:56

the next month the next year the next

0:40:58

two years and I find that if if you're

0:41:01

looking at a three-year time frame

0:41:02

everything is very very noisy and

0:41:05

complicated and there's all these

0:41:06

debates

0:41:08

but if you were going to end the debates

0:41:10

go at 100 years

0:41:12

I just take a hundred million dollars

0:41:14

and go through the exercise of giving it

0:41:17

to someone your your heirs heirs air in

0:41:21

a hundred years

0:41:23

and then all of a sudden all of the all

0:41:25

this noise drops away can I put it in

0:41:28

real estate no it'll be taxed out of

0:41:30

existence at 100 years can I put it in

0:41:32

Gold no 98 of it'll be gone if 100 isn't

0:41:36

gone in 100 years because it'll be mine

0:41:39

today can I put it in Fiat no it's going

0:41:41

to be inflated to death can I can I

0:41:43

invest it in a company no name one

0:41:46

company that's around today that was

0:41:48

around 100 years ago that hasn't been

0:41:50

diluted recapitalized

0:41:55

can I put it in a stock index

0:41:57

well you're trusting a human being to

0:42:00

rebalance the index

0:42:02

you know over and over again what stock

0:42:04

index do you trust for the next hundred

0:42:05

years and by the way it's it's got

0:42:07

counterparty risk at the nation-state

0:42:09

level

0:42:11

Nation might not be there and uh

0:42:14

90 didn't make it so

0:42:18

what are you left with

0:42:21

and and the truth is when you when you

0:42:23

just do that thought experiment it's

0:42:25

pretty obvious

0:42:26

you put it in uh

0:42:28

you would put it in a crypto Network and

0:42:31

a decentralized proof of work network if

0:42:36

the adherence the maximalist

0:42:39

were fanatic zealots about protecting

0:42:43

the Integrity of the network against

0:42:45

meddlers who would screw it up

0:42:48

if if the network is supported by those

0:42:52

with a religious conviction to the

0:42:55

network

0:42:56

such that you could imagine a hundred

0:42:58

years from now there will still be

0:43:00

people protecting the network

0:43:02

but the phrase is keepers of the flame

0:43:06

right every great religion every great

0:43:09

institution has keepers of the flame and

0:43:12

there must be passion do you believe in

0:43:15

your religion do you do you believe

0:43:17

strong enough that you'll flee

0:43:19

persecution to to continue to practice

0:43:21

it right the United States was built on

0:43:25

the foundation the separation of of

0:43:27

church and state and it's a it's a

0:43:30

pretty important and interesting

0:43:31

metaphor people came here because they

0:43:34

could practice their religion

0:43:37

that's why they came here and they came

0:43:39

here because their religion was uh above

0:43:42

their government

0:43:44

they were not they would not sacrifice

0:43:46

whatever it is they believed in

0:43:48

if you look at every institution that

0:43:50

lasts more than 100 years name them

0:43:52

Harvard University Cambridge Oxford

0:43:56

the Catholic Church

0:43:58

Islamic sex certain the Jewish faith

0:44:02

but there's not that many it's like

0:44:04

there's churches or religious sects and

0:44:08

then there's some educational

0:44:09

institutions and I and I see the

0:44:12

educational institutions being shaken at

0:44:13

their core this year right I mean

0:44:16

literally you could have said for 500

0:44:18

years you know

0:44:20

Ivy Leagues Elite universities there are

0:44:24

stalwart institutions

0:44:30

they have lost a huge amount of

0:44:30

credibility this year when you send all

0:44:32

your all of your students home and you

0:44:35

close the campus and people are studying

0:44:37

virtually people's affiliation to the to

0:44:40

the bricks and mortar of the institution

0:44:43

has been dramatically weakened and

0:44:45

unless they morph into a virtual

0:44:48

Institution

0:44:50

the virtual institutions by the way have

0:44:52

dramatically strengthened right like

0:44:54

your affiliation with YouTube

0:44:56

and Facebook and Apple TV

0:45:01

and Bitcoin

0:45:02

has dramatically strengthened and square

0:45:05

cash if it's virtual and your

0:45:07

affiliation with the bricks and mortar

0:45:09

physical uh institution that has been

0:45:11

weakened and those that will survive

0:45:14

have dematerialized and virtualized

0:45:17

right and they and they they've learned

0:45:20

uh they've learned how to project their

0:45:22

ethos

0:45:23

in cyberspace

0:45:25

so yeah back to store value

0:45:28

you need people

0:45:31

human beings Flesh and Blood people that

0:45:34

are going to uh that are going to keep

0:45:36

the flame and the flame a Bitcoin is the

0:45:41

node and the mining rig

0:45:44

it's like imagine we're getting into

0:45:46

Bitcoin as religion or as Faith now but

0:45:50

imagine uh

0:45:53

a thousand years ago I want to keep a

0:45:55

religion alive I have an altar in my

0:45:57

home I have a check every wealthy person

0:45:59

had a chapel in their home

0:46:01

and if you look at religions right you

0:46:03

go to the Far East uh there are altars

0:46:06

and Buddhist Shinto other Fates

0:46:10

so the idea of an altar or a shrine

0:46:16

um a cathedral or a church these are

0:46:18

structures where people go to worship

0:46:20

and the worshiping is the feeding of the

0:46:23

flame and oftentimes during the

0:46:25

worshiping they're tithing and they're

0:46:28

channeling 10 percent of their money

0:46:30

as energy

0:46:32

into these religions in order to keep

0:46:35

them relevant

0:46:36

if you look at science if you look at

0:46:39

fantasy fiction

0:46:41

and fantasy where they have gods

0:46:43

the the strength of the God is a

0:46:46

function of the devoutness of the

0:46:49

worshipers of the followers

0:46:52

such and such was worshiped as the god

0:46:54

of the god of the forest and they are

0:46:58

worshiped as the god of the forest and

0:46:59

all of their adherents all their

0:47:01

acolytes are feeding energy to the god

0:47:04

of the force and when they're no longer

0:47:06

worshiped

0:47:07

their energy goes away

0:47:10

right

0:47:12

if you uh if you lose your faithful if

0:47:16

they won't feed you

0:47:18

with the fire of Truth with the energy

0:47:21

that you need the your efficacy Falls

0:47:23

and you die and so how do you feed a

0:47:28

fire right if it's a physical fire you

0:47:30

have to throw wood on the fire how do

0:47:33

you feed a religion you have to tithe

0:47:34

you have to you know the Catholic Church

0:47:36

any church you have to give it money and

0:47:39

maybe you have to give it your life

0:47:40

service

0:47:41

Onward Christian Soldiers I will fight

0:47:44

for the cause I will donate to the cause

0:47:46

that's how you feed

0:47:47

a religious Institution

0:47:50

how do you feed a crypto Network

0:47:53

you got to spin up

0:47:55

facilities of encrypted energy

0:47:59

that adhere to the protocol

0:48:01

every time a minor comes on board it's

0:48:03

feeding the fire every time a node comes

0:48:06

on board that's going to it's going to

0:48:08

certify and validate it's it's uh

0:48:11

protecting right it's creating one more

0:48:13

chain in the in the fall tolerance

0:48:16

structure

0:48:17

and um

0:48:28

that's why a smaller crypto a a crypto

0:48:28

that's a technical experiment

0:48:30

it's an application

0:48:32

isn't the good store of value because if

0:48:35

the people are willing to a fork it if

0:48:38

they want to Fork it and abandon it in

0:48:41

order to in order to implement a new

0:48:43

technology then

0:48:46

then the flame dies

0:48:49

and and so

0:48:52

it's pretty clear that uh that Bitcoin

0:48:55

maximalist they have a lot of the faith

0:48:58

and the conviction of True Believers and

0:49:02

any religious faith for the past 2000

0:49:04

years

0:49:05

and why wouldn't they

0:49:07

because um

0:49:09

they share the same values

0:49:12

their values are truth

0:49:14

nature natural laws laws of physics laws

0:49:17

of thermodynamics math Austrian

0:49:20

economics no such thing as a free launch

0:49:24

self-reliance

0:49:26

you know honesty fairness and technology

0:49:29

in advance they share those values

0:49:33

they um

0:49:35

they're taking their monetary energy and

0:49:38

tokenizing it on on a Bitcoin network

0:49:40

with Bitcoin Bitcoin is that single

0:49:44

shared store of value

0:49:48

if money

0:49:50

is energy

0:49:52

and energy

0:49:53

begets life

0:49:56

and and a crypto decentralized Network

0:50:00

gives you sovereignty

0:50:02

that's a path to immortality and that

0:50:06

means that everybody in the uh in the

0:50:10

Bitcoin community that believes in this

0:50:12

for the long term is engaged in the

0:50:14

pursuit of Immortal Life

0:50:17

and pursuit of Immortal Life

0:50:20

sounds like a religious Mantra I think

0:50:23

and absolutely and I grew up in the

0:50:27

southern baptist Faith so I'm I'm very

0:50:29

familiar with uh with the ideology of

0:50:32

Christianity and pursuit of immortal

0:50:34

life is pretty Paramount there I did as

0:50:37

well that's interesting

0:50:40

and and

0:50:43

if if Bitcoin is a store of value for a

0:50:46

hundred years then it is a it is a um a

0:50:50

technique or it is a

0:50:53

you know it is a technique through which

0:50:56

you can uh project the values through

0:51:00

time so if you're not if you're not

0:51:03

actually providing for a better life for

0:51:05

yourself you're providing for a better

0:51:07

life for your family or you're providing

0:51:10

uh for a better life for your loved ones

0:51:12

or friends or perhaps your values are

0:51:15

you want to support a dog park and you

0:51:17

want to endow the dog part for a hundred

0:51:19

years

0:51:19

or what if you want to endow a you know

0:51:22

environmental cost or save the seals or

0:51:24

save the whales or or it doesn't really

0:51:26

matter what the cause is

0:51:29

cure cancer

0:51:31

do this go to the Stars when I die I

0:51:34

want all of my wealth to be used to make

0:51:37

education free for everyone forever

0:51:40

that actually is one of my values and I

0:51:42

have a foundation the Sailor a

0:51:43

foundation which which gives away free

0:51:45

education to hundreds of thousands of

0:51:47

people

0:51:48

that's a value other people want to go

0:51:50

to outer space

0:51:51

if I can Channel my energy and put it

0:51:54

into a a network

0:51:56

and that Network can be used to fund and

0:51:59

power and endowment that will do that

0:52:02

thing

0:52:03

then um

0:52:05

that that Bitcoin Network or that crypto

0:52:08

network is going to be my mechanism for

0:52:12

achieving

0:52:13

all of my hopes and aspirations from now

0:52:15

to Eternity

0:52:18

that's an amazing point and I would even

0:52:22

conceive of that as a mechanism almost

0:52:26

of the afterlife right it's a way to

0:52:29

carry your will beyond your own life

0:52:32

and the other

0:52:34

the American mythologist Joseph Campbell

0:52:36

he described religion

0:52:40

um as a story that points toward the

0:52:45

transcendental mystery that we all

0:52:46

experience but cannot articulate

0:52:50

and it's it's so all religious

0:52:52

Traditions mythological Traditions are

0:52:56

stories pointing toward a higher truth

0:52:58

and I find it interesting that Bitcoin

0:53:01

has higher Truth uh embedded in code

0:53:05

right there's 21 million number is quite

0:53:09

literally transcendental we can't touch

0:53:11

it we can't change it we can't do

0:53:12

anything about it it's every 10 minutes

0:53:15

it's promulgating the most indisputable

0:53:18

truth that we've ever had right it's

0:53:20

called true Global consensus so it's

0:53:22

it's it's not just a metaphor I think to

0:53:26

call Bitcoin religious it quite actually

0:53:28

is religious

0:53:31

if you

0:53:32

if you worship science if you worship

0:53:35

the laws of physics and the laws of

0:53:37

thermodynamics and and and

0:53:40

mathematical clarity

0:53:48

then Bitcoins you're religious right

0:53:48

right

0:53:51

that that's what takes us out of the

0:53:53

range of

0:53:54

of simple asset debates if your time

0:53:57

Horizon is 10 years we can debate

0:53:59

Bitcoin this versus Apple stock that

0:54:02

versus Amazon versus bonds versus

0:54:04

whatever and when you when your time

0:54:07

Horizon is three years by the way it all

0:54:09

is just in the domain of of macro

0:54:12

Traders and and cute arbitragers and

0:54:16

everybody wants to tell you about the

0:54:17

Fibonacci this triangle thing and and

0:54:21

that's overbought and this is oversold

0:54:24

you know my head kind of explodes trying

0:54:26

to figure that out but the truth I just

0:54:28

don't care it doesn't you know being

0:54:31

right in the next two years strikes me

0:54:33

as being a bad idea because in order to

0:54:36

be right as a Trader in the near term I

0:54:38

have to turn off the part of my brain

0:54:40

that thinks about what's true and honest

0:54:43

and morally hazard

0:54:45

you know or Russia but you literally

0:54:48

have to be like I know it's stupid to go

0:54:50

this way but since everybody else is

0:54:51

going to go this way I'm going to do

0:54:53

something stupid now because I think I'm

0:54:55

less stupid but more more stupid stupid

0:54:58

than they are stupid it's just it's not

0:55:01

a way to live the market can stay

0:55:03

irrational longer than you can stay

0:55:05

solvent right

0:55:06

yeah and and the problem is like if I

0:55:09

lose by trying to act stupid then I

0:55:12

really was stupid and if I win acting

0:55:15

kind of irrational crazy then I don't

0:55:17

respect myself and meanwhile

0:55:20

you know a much simpler idea is just

0:55:24

figure out what's going to go up by a

0:55:27

factor of a hundred or a thousand and

0:55:29

just go stand there and wait for

0:55:31

entropy to take its course and wait for

0:55:35

Gravity to take its its effect

0:55:38

right and let the water flow downhill

0:55:40

and Let the Fire Burn

0:55:42

right and don't Dash around while the

0:55:44

fire is burning everything stand up and

0:55:47

watch it so

0:55:49

so the solution there is you move from

0:55:53

three years to ten years and then you

0:55:55

move from 10 years to 100 years and at

0:55:57

the Hundred Year time frame it's pretty

0:55:59

clear what's an asset and what's the

0:56:01

store of value and that's where it's

0:56:02

just it's just very obvious eh

0:56:07

Bitcoin is a store of value if

0:56:10

its Believers have religious conviction

0:56:12

in it right

0:56:14

it becomes very simple now

0:56:17

if you if you step out to a thousand

0:56:19

year time frame

0:56:21

and you say what's this thing got to be

0:56:23

in order to last a thousand years

0:56:27

it better be the worship of math and the

0:56:29

laws of thermodynamics and the laws of

0:56:31

physics and and Einstein and Newton

0:56:35

that might make it

0:56:38

and and if if we just focus upon that

0:56:40

and don't and don't let all this other

0:56:43

stuff get mired

0:56:45

I mean that's reasonable I mean people

0:56:48

people have been studying and honoring

0:56:51

math and algebra for 2000 years they've

0:56:53

been honoring calculus for 400 years

0:56:57

right you could say this is truly

0:57:00

the um

0:57:02

the adoption of

0:57:04

economics is a science right maybe it

0:57:07

said it's that uh critical

0:57:10

inflection point where economics went

0:57:13

from being

0:57:14

a political preference

0:57:17

to being a science and if you adopt it

0:57:20

as a science

0:57:22

then you get that then you actually get

0:57:25

massive advantages technically and if

0:57:27

you rejected

0:57:29

I know it's I guess it's kind of like

0:57:31

the guys in the Dark Ages and they could

0:57:33

accept calculus

0:57:35

or they could reject calculus right

0:57:39

no Bridges

0:57:40

yeah if you reject calculus make a

0:57:44

bridge see what happens how about it

0:57:46

there's a lot of stuff in life if if you

0:57:49

look back at the guy that did more than

0:57:50

anything probably Isaac Newton is

0:57:52

responsible for 90 percent of just about

0:57:54

everything we have around us and if you

0:57:57

rejected principia Mathematica because

0:57:59

you just thought it was inconvenient you

0:58:02

probably rejected 90 of everything that

0:58:05

we have today that we hold near and dear

0:58:08

and natural selection takes care of the

0:58:10

rest right if you reject these truths

0:58:12

that are uncovered you're it's the end

0:58:15

of your legacy in the long run

0:58:18

[Music]

0:58:25

seven with Michael Saylor here in the

0:58:27

Sailor series

0:58:29

and wow what an episode

0:58:31

um we have gone really deep into the

0:58:35

topic of Bitcoin uh and I think we we

0:58:37

had a really strong finish today so

0:58:40

it's going to run through a few of the

0:58:41

things we talked about you know we

0:58:43

started out with this concept of

0:58:46

Bitcoin as a monetary missile and this

0:58:50

took me back to episode one where we're

0:58:52

talking about fire missiles and

0:58:55

hydraulics being these these primary

0:58:58

Stone Age technologies that allowed

0:59:00

mankind to come into dominance in the

0:59:02

world

0:59:03

and I thought the analogy is very

0:59:06

interesting that you know using Bitcoin

0:59:08

we have this sort of ultimate High

0:59:10

Ground behind a wall of encrypted energy

0:59:12

but we can also accelerate our monetary

0:59:15

energy and deploy it

0:59:17

anywhere in the world you know across

0:59:19

any domain

0:59:21

um near nearly instantly

0:59:24

uh with virtual window frictions at all

0:59:26

and so not only does it give us this

0:59:28

advantage of asymmetric terrain but we

0:59:31

also get maximal force with how we

0:59:34

deploy that monetary energy in the the

0:59:37

generation of capital

0:59:40

um so I thought that was that was super

0:59:42

Ophthalmology and then we talked about

0:59:44

how that effectively makes Bitcoin the

0:59:47

highest

0:59:48

bandwidth

0:59:50

price Discovery transparency and

0:59:52

security asset in the world right so we

0:59:54

have this pure money that propagates

0:59:57

pure price signals so would allow for

0:59:59

Pure price Discovery all of that is

1:00:01

premised on its open source ethos which

1:00:04

is essentially absolute transparency and

1:00:08

that gives it the ultimate security so

1:00:11

there's a bit of a paradox there it's

1:00:13

like by being totally open to inspection

1:00:16

Bitcoin actually resists uh you know

1:00:19

manipulation or emulation even and that

1:00:23

um everything about it is out in the

1:00:25

open so it's it's more a quality of its

1:00:29

Network effects its liquidity its first

1:00:32

mover Advantage all of these things even

1:00:36

actually The Disappearance of Satoshi

1:00:37

which we'll get into a bit later all of

1:00:39

these things sort of wrap this open

1:00:41

technology in a you know apparently

1:00:44

disruption proof casing

1:00:46

um so I thought that was a really really

1:00:48

powerful discussion points

1:00:50

and as Taylor calls Bitcoin

1:00:53

the creature that never sleeps right we

1:00:56

have this

1:00:57

swarm intelligence if you will that

1:01:00

never stops growing changing adapting

1:01:04

um trading you know it just it is

1:01:07

a fully autonomous

1:01:10

uh and Perpetual monetary Network

1:01:13

competing against these other monetary

1:01:15

networks that are rigidly controlled in

1:01:18

certain time Windows

1:01:20

um and you know to this point it's like

1:01:23

an individual organism has to sleep

1:01:27

but a swarm creature does not so the

1:01:30

Swarm creature necessarily out competes

1:01:32

the individual organism because it

1:01:34

doesn't need to sleep right it just

1:01:36

keeps adapting and growing uh becoming

1:01:38

more fit and you know as we know from

1:01:41

Darwin it's the most fit competitor uh

1:01:44

that wins out in an ecosystem

1:01:47

and I thought this was a great Point too

1:01:49

I never thought of it this way that

1:01:52

in a swarm

1:01:53

the weakest elements are actually weeded

1:01:56

out right they so it's constantly

1:01:58

sacrificing its weaker elements to

1:02:00

Natural Selection and thereby

1:02:03

strengthening The Ensemble whereas the

1:02:07

individual organism is subject to any

1:02:09

singular attack Vector if it's defense

1:02:11

is penetrated it the whole entity or

1:02:14

organism essentially is lost so in that

1:02:17

way centralized entities are only as

1:02:20

strong as their weakest link or sailor

1:02:22

says are constrained by their lowest

1:02:24

common denominator

1:02:25

whereas a decentralized entity like the

1:02:28

Swarm is going to be strengthened by its

1:02:31

highest common denominator right

1:02:33

um so and we can think about this it's

1:02:36

kind of like something that learns at

1:02:37

the edges so if one member of the Swarm

1:02:41

figures out how to effectively deal with

1:02:43

a predator or threat then it will tend

1:02:47

um reproduce

1:02:48

and its genes will be replicated into

1:02:50

the rest of the Swarm so the the entire

1:02:53

decentralized entity or organism is

1:02:55

actually learning at the edges and

1:02:57

incorporating those lessons into its its

1:02:59

whole body whereas the centralized

1:03:01

entity if it encounters a predator that

1:03:03

it doesn't know how to deal with or even

1:03:06

figures out how to defeat it doesn't it

1:03:08

doesn't spread that uh adaptivity to the

1:03:11

rest of its body essentially it's just

1:03:14

it's a one-to-one relationship versus

1:03:16

this one to many

1:03:18

um so the one to many gives it just much

1:03:19

more intelligence and adaptivity in the

1:03:22

long run

1:03:23

and the time respect to bitcoin it's as

1:03:27

similar's point if any Market

1:03:29

participant in the Bitcoin Network

1:03:32

figures out a way to deliver a solution

1:03:34

you know smarter faster stronger better

1:03:39

um that that will essentially that's

1:03:41

where the capital will flow again

1:03:42

because the capital is unrestricted

1:03:44

right it's it's not

1:03:47

it is not

1:03:54

siled to any particular

1:03:54

jurisdiction or institution individuals

1:03:57

have maximal sovereignty over their

1:03:59

Bitcoin Capital so they can move it

1:04:00

anywhere in the world so

1:04:02

in his example of say someone's setting

1:04:06

a decentralized or centralized

1:04:08

institution in Singapore for instance

1:04:10

that solved the yield curve problem so

1:04:13

matching lenders and borrowers of

1:04:15

Bitcoin in a way that establishes a

1:04:18

long-term yield curve for Bitcoin that

1:04:20

this would

1:04:22

you know that would create all of a

1:04:24

sudden this risk-free rate on bitcoin

1:04:25

which is the one thing that it lacks as

1:04:27

we've discussed in earlier episodes to

1:04:29

make it a truly pristine collateral that

1:04:32

would be competitive to say U.S

1:04:34

treasuries is that Bitcoin doesn't

1:04:35

currently have a yield

1:04:37

um but if you could match borrowers and

1:04:39

lenders you could actually create that

1:04:41

curve

1:04:42

so the point was

1:04:44

say this uh we create this eight percent

1:04:47

risk-free rate on bitcoin until your

1:04:50

money then all of a sudden not only have

1:04:52

you strengthened the

1:04:55

um which could be used by the way this

1:04:57

if you had this risk for rate on bitcoin

1:04:59

and you have Fiat deprecating it say two

1:05:01

percent a year best case then this opens

1:05:04

up an attack Vector on Fiat or you could

1:05:06

actually

1:05:07

um go long Bitcoin short the dollar and

1:05:10

squeeze uh the difference in yield this

1:05:12

is called speculative attack

1:05:14

and this hat would have the effect of

1:05:18

strengthening the speculative attacker

1:05:20

himself but it would also strengthen the

1:05:23

holder in uh you know Schenectady or

1:05:26

whatever town that doesn't know anything

1:05:28

about this just by virtue of uh more

1:05:31

price appreciation pressure being

1:05:34

applied to bitcoin so more energy being

1:05:36

drawn into the network actually benefits

1:05:37

all Network participants

1:05:39

and this is contrary to a centralized uh

1:05:43

entity

1:05:44

and if you if you flip this back to the

1:05:48

Great Wall of China example it's like

1:05:50

you've inverted that security model so

1:05:53

it was a Great Wall of China is just a

1:05:55

perimeter of Defense it doesn't adapt if

1:05:57

you can penetrate any point of it the

1:05:59

whole uh defensible area is lost right

1:06:02

that's actually what happened on the

1:06:03

Mongols penetrated the gate

1:06:05

uh whereas

1:06:07

Bitcoin is effectively this swarm

1:06:10

intelligence right so it's it's

1:06:12

any network participant that can figure

1:06:16

something out is benefiting the entire

1:06:18

network and then you've also further

1:06:21

capitalized or further energized those

1:06:23

Network participants to go out and solve

1:06:25

other problems on behalf of other

1:06:26

network participants so there's this

1:06:27

virtuous cycle built right into it

1:06:29

that's just not does not exist with any

1:06:31

other form of money

1:06:35

then we take a bit of a pivot and we got

1:06:38

how human intervention negatively and

1:06:41

adversely impacts complex systems and

1:06:44

say look at the example of you know the

1:06:46

Lions complaining that the antelope are

1:06:48

too fast so the hunter hobbles the

1:06:50

antelope

1:06:51

the Lions you know kill all the antelope

1:06:54

get lazy because they're not being close

1:06:55

to their limits so then after all the

1:06:58

end hope are eliminated the Lions starve

1:07:00

to death and then the hunter blames it

1:07:02

on the weather right uh this is a core

1:07:06

Concept in television and telev's books

1:07:08

where he says that human intervention

1:07:11

moves us from what he calls mediocrustan

1:07:14

to extremistam

1:07:16

um meaning essentially that the uh

1:07:20

non-linearity of effects goes through

1:07:22

the roof once we try to intervene in

1:07:24

natural systems because there's there

1:07:25

are all these Dynamic equilibria that

1:07:27

we're unaware of and when we offset uh

1:07:30

you know we try to press one lever to

1:07:33

cause one result there's a Cascade of

1:07:35

unintended consequences surrounding that

1:07:38

um one common example here is called the

1:07:41

Cobra problem Cobra problem and you can

1:07:44

look this up on say Wikipedia But the

1:07:47

gist of it is that uh I forget what

1:07:49

country but they they had a problem with

1:07:51

overpopulation of cobras so they passed

1:07:53

the law that said uh it offered a ransom

1:07:56

for every dead Cobra brought to the

1:07:57

government you know they give you ten

1:07:59

dollars or whatever it was

1:08:00

and this had the unintended consequence

1:08:03

of incentivizing people to actually

1:08:05

start breeding cobras and killing them

1:08:09

uh and then to take them into the

1:08:10

government and get this reward so it

1:08:13

actually further exacerbated the over

1:08:15

population problem and uh financially

1:08:19

compromised the local government so

1:08:20

that's just one example where

1:08:23

you know good intentions go awry and

1:08:25

history is just full of these

1:08:28

and to tie that back into money you know

1:08:32

that's what I guess you could say

1:08:34

the central bank or interest rate

1:08:36

manipulation

1:08:38

you know intentionality aside we could

1:08:40

possibly argue that it was done uh and

1:08:44

and with the attempt to make things

1:08:47

better right

1:08:49

um You can you can argue both sides that

1:08:51

let's just say for instance that

1:08:53

um it was done with good and wholesome

1:08:54

intentions to benefit the economy or

1:08:56

stimulate demand you know or uh keep

1:08:59

prices stable on employment low and

1:09:01

predictable and all these things uh that

1:09:05

still when you're talking about

1:09:07

suppressing interest rates to induce

1:09:09

money creation and borrowing

1:09:12

you're going to war

1:09:15

with the temporal and energetic

1:09:17

principles of thermodynamics because

1:09:19

again

1:09:21

money is like the price of money the

1:09:24

interest rate is the price of time right

1:09:26

I'm going to give you money now that

1:09:28

you're going to give me back later

1:09:29

there's a price associated with attitude

1:09:31

of payment it's called the interest rate

1:09:32

if a centralized body is artificially

1:09:35

suppressing that you're actually trying

1:09:38

to you know in Sailors always is to

1:09:40

reverse the flow of time you're

1:09:42

discounting the price of time and this

1:09:44

has just so many disastrous unintended

1:09:47

consequences around it

1:09:50

um which we went into you know but

1:09:52

you're you're pushing back against

1:09:53

thermodynamics which are which is the

1:09:56

invaluable rule set of the universe

1:09:58

and I would argue that actually

1:10:02

trying to suppress the price of time

1:10:05

causes us to Discount uh the value of

1:10:08

our own time in the time of others

1:10:10

actually and you can say timer energy

1:10:12

again

1:10:14

and it I think that is kind of the

1:10:18

culprit at the heart of this moral

1:10:20

hazard related to fiat currency is that

1:10:22

we're discounting time and energy which

1:10:25

is the intrinsic value of human beings

1:10:28

effectively and that's the one case by

1:10:30

the way where I use the term intrinsic

1:10:32

value because I do think humans are the

1:10:34

only intrinsically value you can maybe

1:10:37

expand that to life more generally but

1:10:41

there's no objects that have intrinsic

1:10:43

value value is subjective but life

1:10:45

itself has living beings that seems to

1:10:48

be kind of an absolute as that we should

1:10:49

we should have uh value for life

1:10:54

um anyways bit of a philosophical side

1:11:03

in that way we if we're looking at this

1:11:03

organism aspect

1:11:10

uh you know actually discounting the

1:11:10

price of life

1:11:12

um and we see all the moral hazard that

1:11:15

Central Banking has created and all the

1:11:16

Warfare It's funded it's as if Bitcoin

1:11:19

is an autoimmune response somehow from

1:11:22

society uh to social banking right and

1:11:25

you know as the other side clearly

1:11:29

the message in the Genesis block

1:11:31

solidifies that

1:11:33

um and he goes a little bit deeper

1:11:35

actually to say that Satoshi was clearly

1:11:37

an individual sensitive to these

1:11:40

um negatives socioeconomic consequences

1:11:42

of Central Banking

1:11:44

and his own sensitivity was a response

1:11:47

to the sensitivity of others right

1:11:49

people that had been marginalized or

1:11:50

victimized by the system throughout the

1:11:52

ages and

1:11:55

it's ad that you could call that like an

1:11:58

in form of inflammation basically the

1:11:59

socioeconomic superorganism and then

1:12:02

Satoshi was uh just the you know the

1:12:05

cell of the organism that figured it out

1:12:07

right he figured out the correct

1:12:08

response launched it into the world in

1:12:10

the right way at the right time

1:12:13

um so I thought that was just really

1:12:14

interesting that you know

1:12:16

there's and and we're going to quote on

1:12:19

them uh I talked to him about the fourth

1:12:20

turning he made the point I actually

1:12:22

read this book yet we made the point

1:12:24

that in these uh long quite these long

1:12:27

Cycles there's you know first second

1:12:29

third fourth turning there tends to come

1:12:32

a kind of pivotal

1:12:34

moments or innovation or something that

1:12:36

comes just at the right time to sort of

1:12:38

reverse course uh and it feels and seems

1:12:42

like Bitcoin is definitely becoming that

1:12:45

of the Modern Age

1:12:47

um the world is just going One Direction

1:12:49

on Central Banking and we needed uh some

1:12:52

autoimmune response that appears Bitcoin

1:12:55

is that so I thought that was really

1:12:56

fascinating

1:12:58

and then we we got into Bitcoin as a

1:13:01

store of value

1:13:02

and I I think made very strong arguments

1:13:06

um again especially when you zoom out to

1:13:08

kind of 100 year plus time frame that

1:13:10

Bitcoin is basically this sole

1:13:13

21st century store value right it just

1:13:16

is incomparable to anything else

1:13:19

um and this you know 2020 war on

1:13:22

currency and uh escalating government

1:13:25

overreach this is just pushed an

1:13:27

awareness of Bitcoin on people

1:13:30

um and sort of accelerated that

1:13:31

autoimmune response in a way and to just

1:13:34

kind of like compare it you know real

1:13:36

quick as we went through alternative

1:13:38

stores of value you have bonds but

1:13:40

they're now bumping up against the zero

1:13:42

bound uh and you know to say this point

1:13:45

like it's harder to discern you're being

1:13:47

taken advantage of when the natural

1:13:48

interest rate is two percent you're

1:13:49

getting or five percent you're getting

1:13:51

two percent but it's much easier for

1:13:53

Market participants to understand

1:13:54

they're getting screwed when they're uh

1:13:57

there's a negative yield right it just

1:13:58

it's there's there's something very

1:14:00

special about Crossing that zero barrier

1:14:03

and that's where bonds are at today so

1:14:04

that they're getting uh quickly

1:14:08

decimated as a viable store value

1:14:11

because there's no yield

1:14:13

equities they're way overvalued right

1:14:16

across all fundamentals and valuation

1:14:19

metrics where you know historic all-time

1:14:22

highs PE ratios and

1:14:25

eva.enterize Enterprise Value or sorry

1:14:28

multiples on ebay.org Enterprise Value

1:14:30

et cetera et cetera

1:14:32

um and that is

1:14:33

you know what what I would argue is

1:14:35

Bitcoin is a function of we've

1:14:37

compromised the store value function of

1:14:40

fiat currency so that function is now

1:14:42

the Market's figuring out it needs to

1:14:44

put assign that function to any other

1:14:47

asset right and equities are somewhat

1:14:50

reliably scarce at least

1:14:52

but this has a perverse effect in that

1:14:55

since

1:14:57

as sailor says the price of equities are

1:15:00

delaminating from their fundamentals

1:15:02

right so they're over valued uh in the

1:15:04

marketplace that they're actually

1:15:06

becoming more and more risky right so

1:15:08

there's this perverse effect of

1:15:11

the more we use in equity as a store of

1:15:13

value the more the less effective it is

1:15:17

as a store of value in the long run

1:15:19

which is which is really strange and

1:15:22

Bitcoin is the opposite of that right

1:15:24

Bitcoin is actually becoming more secure

1:15:27

as a store value as its price increases

1:15:30

and therefore more attractive

1:15:32

um and this is an economic concept

1:15:33

called the veblin good which we could

1:15:36

look up but basically there are certain

1:15:37

assets that actually become

1:15:40

uh the demand tends to increase as the

1:15:42

price increases which is contrary to

1:15:44

most other assets but I think Bitcoin

1:15:45

fits that category uh Commodities are

1:15:48

another alternative you know we

1:15:49

destroyed those in earlier episodes I'd

1:15:51

say go check that out um check those out

1:15:53

and then finally real estate which has

1:15:55

been a really popular one for the past

1:15:57

50 years especially in the US but

1:15:59

you know real estate cannot be hidden

1:16:02

and it's taxed every year is the easiest

1:16:04

thing in the world to tax because you

1:16:06

can't hide it and you know that is the

1:16:08

Dominion on which governments project

1:16:10

their power

1:16:12

um so I think that there's really high

1:16:14

valuations there plus uh there's no

1:16:17

concealability concealability so that

1:16:20

that um sort of compromises real estate

1:16:22

as a good store value

1:16:26

you know he makes the point that

1:16:30

to be a good store of value you really

1:16:32

want to have a technology that's focused

1:16:35

on that function right equities are you

1:16:37

know you're creating all kinds of other

1:16:40

value in the economy granted I'll be at

1:16:42

riskally right you have to they're

1:16:44

taking on risks and trying new Ventures

1:16:46

and figuring things out innovating

1:16:48

you know property would be a little more

1:16:51

stable but it still has other uses right

1:16:53

there's actually utility use there so

1:16:55

the point being you want a pure store

1:16:57

value right that's what gold effectively

1:17:00

was was the purest store value we had

1:17:02

historically and now that's what Bitcoin

1:17:04

is today and we could say it's it's kind

1:17:07

of like being a single-celled organism

1:17:09

right a sailor said you don't want to be

1:17:10

a vertebrate with all these complex

1:17:12

features because the additional features

1:17:15

open you up to more risk in the tax

1:17:17

surface what you want is something uh

1:17:21

very uni-dimensional single cell just

1:17:25

holds value and a trust minimized

1:17:28

weighing across time and space and

1:17:31

that's what Bitcoin is right that is the

1:17:33

big breakthrough

1:17:35

so and that led us into

1:17:38

via negativa which is another television

1:17:40

concept that I really like

1:17:44

in a way you know this is ties back to a

1:17:48

quote uh actually I heard let's say

1:17:51

they're tweeted once said quote a

1:17:53

designer knows he has achieved

1:17:55

perfection

1:17:56

and there's nothing left to take away

1:17:58

unquote

1:17:59

and as we discussed previously

1:18:01

money has five properties right

1:18:03

divisibility durability recognizability

1:18:05

portability scarcity so what did Satoshi

1:18:08

the creation of Bitcoin

1:18:10

the reason it's so genius and the reason

1:18:12

Satoshi is an artist and the reason

1:18:14

Bitcoin is effectively a perfected money

1:18:16

is because Satoshi took away all of the

1:18:18

indivisibility

1:18:19

all of the decomposability all of the

1:18:22

unrecognizability all of the

1:18:24

immovability and all of the

1:18:26

unpredictability from money right he

1:18:29

maximally removed all of these negative

1:18:31

aspects of money

1:18:32

to deliver us the you know quasi

1:18:35

Perfection that is Bitcoin

1:18:38

um and that speaks again to this

1:18:43

minimization of attack surface right

1:18:45

you've reduced all of the kind of the

1:18:48

features of money to stripped it down to

1:18:50

its Bare Bones just its bare monetary

1:18:52

properties and you've taken away all the

1:18:55

the negative aspects from those

1:18:57

properties so you effectively perfected

1:18:59

those properties

1:19:01

um and this speaks again to bitcoin's

1:19:04

resistance to disruption right so we've

1:19:06

we've achieved

1:19:08

attack surface minimization via monetary

1:19:12

property optimization so this is

1:19:15

this is via negativa right you're the

1:19:17

more you take away the more what what

1:19:20

you have left it becomes more valuable

1:19:22

essentially

1:19:24

um so I thought that was just a really

1:19:25

interesting way to look at it

1:19:27

and another way to say that is you know

1:19:30

we commonly hear that oh this new crypto

1:19:33

asset can do this or that the Bitcoin

1:19:35

can't do but

1:19:36

the the Lesser feature set of Bitcoin

1:19:40

is a feature itself not a bug right

1:19:44

because it's it's whole value prop is

1:19:46

survivability right it cannot be stopped

1:19:49

it is just perfected store value that

1:19:53

adheres to 21 million and no one can

1:19:56

shut down the network right no political

1:19:58

or military action can shut down the

1:20:00

network that is the core value prop of

1:20:03

Bitcoin that is what it optimizes for

1:20:07

um and a singer puts this again in one

1:20:09

of his tweets he says Bitcoin has no

1:20:11

country has no company and has no

1:20:13

competitor right so that's what makes it

1:20:16

so special is that it's something

1:20:18

it actually exists Beyond us and which

1:20:21

turns out to be really important

1:20:24

um and I would add to that too that

1:20:26

Bitcoin also doesn't have an oh we'll

1:20:30

say this Bitcoin has no identified

1:20:32

Creator right we know it's Satoshi but

1:20:35

no one knows who Satoshi is it's we

1:20:37

don't have this person to point toward

1:20:40

and the absence

1:20:42

of that personality the Creator actually

1:20:45

I would say gives Bitcoin mythological

1:20:48

Bedrock right which really underpins its

1:20:50

decentralization if we knew Satoshi and

1:20:53

he was in the news every day and he was

1:20:55

out getting drunk at the bar or

1:20:56

something you know and everyone knew he

1:20:58

had a million coins it would just opened

1:21:01

him up to a lot of attacks would call a

1:21:02

lot of things into question

1:21:05

um that his disappearance basically

1:21:06

nullified so the you know this godhead

1:21:11

of Bitcoin would call Satoshi I think

1:21:13

really

1:21:15

reinforces the the value proposition of

1:21:17

survivability and decentralization

1:21:20

and that gets us into what I thought was

1:21:23

the most interesting part of the

1:21:24

discussion today

1:21:26

and that was when sailor pointed to the

1:21:30

fanaticism

1:21:32

of Bitcoin maximalist has an asset right

1:21:35

as it is he uh contributing factor to

1:21:39

the value of the Bitcoin Network

1:21:41

and you know I love this the the analogy

1:21:45

where the Defenders of 21 million

1:21:47

effectively

1:21:49

the network participants themselves we

1:21:52

are the keepers of the flame right we

1:21:53

are the mythological keepers of the

1:21:55

flame

1:21:57

the point being there

1:22:00

to preserve an institution adequately

1:22:02

over time you need

1:22:06

uh adherence or Fanatics if you will

1:22:09

that are so convicted in their belief

1:22:11

that they're willing to flee persecution

1:22:14

to preserve the institution right and he

1:22:17

drew the analogy to people coming to the

1:22:18

U.S people came to the U.S largely to

1:22:22

practice religious freedom right people

1:22:23

wanted a refuge

1:22:26

that they could freely

1:22:28

um put their their spiritual preferences

1:22:30

above their their political above

1:22:32

politics effectively

1:22:34

um and the U.S provided that so

1:22:37

I thought that was super interesting

1:22:40

um and then to bring It Forward a bit

1:22:43

it's we're seeing the faith

1:22:47

shaken in existing institutions

1:22:50

worldwide right whether it's your

1:22:51

government Bank all these Legacy

1:22:54

institutions uh faith has been severely

1:22:56

shaken especially in the wake of covid

1:22:59

um which Salem made a great point it's

1:23:02

even like at the universities where no

1:23:05

one's going to campus anymore and

1:23:06

they're taking courses online you're

1:23:09

reducing

1:23:10

the affiliation with the brick and

1:23:12

mortar University and you're

1:23:14

strengthening the affiliation with the

1:23:16

digital University right so that the

1:23:18

institutions and companies and brands

1:23:20

that adapt to the digital age more

1:23:23

quickly will actually benefit more at

1:23:26

the expense of Legacy institutions

1:23:28

and um so that's a mega political Trend

1:23:33

excuse me it's underway

1:23:36

excuse me

1:23:41

the flame for Bitcoin if you will

1:23:45

is kept between the nodes the miners and

1:23:48

the holders

1:23:50

and I love this you know which are

1:23:52

basically preserving this dynamic

1:23:54

equilibrium centered on 21 million and I

1:23:57

love this the analogy of worshiping at

1:23:59

the altar where

1:24:01

people in the past all worshiped at the

1:24:04

altar

1:24:05

um they would actually feed the flame

1:24:06

even by by tithing say 10 of their their

1:24:09

income

1:24:10

um so they're funding

1:24:12

this religious Institution

1:24:14

and they're also uh preaching these

1:24:16

values to their contemporaries or their

1:24:19

kids so they're passing these values

1:24:21

forward in time using both money and

1:24:23

language which I thought was was very

1:24:25

interesting in ritual I would add to

1:24:29

um and so in Bitcoin World we've got

1:24:31

miners

1:24:32

energizing the fire right they're uh

1:24:36

adding additional energy to the network

1:24:38

that that is its security budget

1:24:41

effectively you have nodes protecting

1:24:44

the fire which are basically selecting

1:24:47

the rule set that the miners are

1:24:48

enforcing and then we have the holders

1:24:51

themselves

1:24:52

which are the fire the the the the

1:24:54

living flame

1:24:57

um that's centered around 21 million so

1:24:59

it's like this group of people uh this

1:25:02

social layer that's all oriented to

1:25:05

preserving 21 million which benefits

1:25:07

everyone and intertwines everyone's fate

1:25:11

and each one of those is just another

1:25:13

element in this you know this composite

1:25:15

fault tolerance structure that we call

1:25:17

Bitcoin so it's just radically new way

1:25:19

to think about it as more of a in

1:25:21

religious-like institution and maybe you

1:25:24

could even say that

1:25:26

phenot nodes Miners and holders are kind

1:25:29

of like the Holy Trinity

1:25:30

of Bitcoin right maybe maybe 21 million

1:25:33

is is the the god or something that

1:25:36

they're oriented around might be a

1:25:38

stretch but I thought

1:25:39

um I thought I'd mention it nonetheless

1:25:43

Bitcoin as a religion question comes

1:25:46

naturally

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what are its values right and a sailor

1:25:50

sailor declares truth natural law

1:25:53

thermodynamics self-reliance honesty

1:25:56

fairness technology self sovereignty all

1:25:59

of these things

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are embedded in the value systems of

1:26:05

true bitcoiners

1:26:07

um and they carry that into the world I

1:26:09

think in in their in their word and

1:26:11

their deed in their Investments

1:26:14

um and it you know I just can't think of

1:26:17

a more

1:26:18

robust

1:26:20

powerful effective well-organized group

1:26:23

of people in the world than than the

1:26:25

bitcoiners are interacted with you know

1:26:27

I've said it before there's nothing in

1:26:28

the world that makes me more bullish

1:26:29

from Bitcoin than Bitcoin is

1:26:33

and you know again if we if we go back

1:26:35

to the purpose of man or at least what

1:26:38

distinguishes him and makes him uh

1:26:40

Superior to their animals it's our

1:26:41

ability to channel Energy across space

1:26:44

and time

1:26:46

and I love this point so energy right

1:26:50

begets life

1:26:53

so Bitcoin as being this this tool

1:26:58

for immortalizing the channeling of

1:27:01

energy right we can Channel it across

1:27:02

space and time any direction we want

1:27:04

with essentially no loss

1:27:06

that 21 million or Bitcoin itself it's

1:27:09

actually in a way kind of the pursuit of

1:27:11

immortal life right we're pursuing uh a

1:27:14

medium that maximally preserves Energy

1:27:16

across space and time so it's like well

1:27:19

of course it's a religious institution

1:27:21

we're pursuing a moral life uh not the

1:27:23

moral life in the sense like you live

1:27:25

forever but

1:27:27

um a network or institution that lives

1:27:30

forever for the betterment of all and

1:27:32

one in which you can project your own

1:27:34

wills and values beyond your own life

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and you know the example there was

1:27:41

like the Sailor Foundation which is

1:27:45

his value

1:27:47

and say his own personal value system is

1:27:49

free education for all right he thinks

1:27:51

that is something that's really

1:27:52

important for the human race and now

1:27:55

with Bitcoin he has a way to

1:27:58

finance and project those values Beyond

1:28:00

his own life right he

1:28:03

can now do something

1:28:05

uh to

1:28:13

to fund and strengthen this institution

1:28:13

Beyond his own life in a way that was

1:28:16

not possible before Bitcoin and you

1:28:19

could kind of say that this is a way of

1:28:20

him uh you know projecting values and

1:28:23

willpower and intentions and preferences

1:28:26

into his own afterlife if you will

1:28:27

doesn't mean up into heaven but just

1:28:29

beyond his own life so I thought that

1:28:31

was really interesting

1:28:32

and then we touched on

1:28:34

you know again another way another

1:28:37

religious aspect aspect of this is that

1:28:39

21 million is truly Transcendent right

1:28:41

it is something no one can do anything

1:28:43

about

1:28:45

um and I think that speaks to its its

1:28:49

religious qualities in a way as well

1:28:52

and you know it had this great quote

1:28:55

said if you worship science the laws of

1:28:57

physics thermodynamics and mathematical

1:28:59

Clarity then Bitcoin is your religion I

1:29:02

thought that was beautifully said

1:29:04

um and

1:29:06

it's it points back to us again right

1:29:09

it's like the the strength of Bitcoin

1:29:12

as a store of value as money is rooted

1:29:15

in the faithfulness of its adherence

1:29:18

right of its Believers if you will so

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it is up to all of us to preserve the

1:29:26

principles embodied in those fields of

1:29:28

study

1:29:30

um and that's what Bitcoin is so

1:29:32

and then you know we concluded with

1:29:38

uh which I thought that was a great

1:29:38

point is perhaps economics through all

1:29:40

of history

1:29:44

just more of a political preference or a

1:29:48

very uh much more just a social science

1:29:50

right even in Austrian economics

1:29:53

there's very little use of objective

1:29:55

measurements because there are no

1:29:57

constants in Human Action effectively

1:30:00

but it seems like with Bitcoin we do

1:30:03

have this Collision we have this

1:30:04

Collision of

1:30:06

you know collect computer science and

1:30:08

everything underpinning that with uh the

1:30:11

softer social science of Economics so

1:30:13

maybe this is the emergence of something

1:30:15

really different and unique right like a

1:30:17

true or not a more objective economic

1:30:20

science you know we're still

1:30:23

these things like value uh supply and

1:30:26

demand you know supplies the objective

1:30:28

side demand is the subjective side these

1:30:30

things are still going to be they're so

1:30:32

still going to hold the same qualities

1:30:34

but the introduction of absolute

1:30:37

scarcity

1:30:39

um and a money that cannot be

1:30:40

monopolized and is this corruption

1:30:41

certainly changes the game right uh I

1:30:44

don't know that it will cause us to

1:30:45

rewrite the history books per se but we

1:30:48

will move more towards this engineering

1:30:50

like mindset I think in the in the field

1:30:53

of Economics so I thought that was

1:30:54

really really put it excuse me

1:30:58

uh so yeah that was it man it was

1:31:01

Monster episode I hope you guys enjoyed

1:31:04

that uh I you know

1:31:07

one two and three built a lot of

1:31:08

foundation I think four five and six

1:31:10

really started to to build some

1:31:12

Crescendo here and seven was a big peak

1:31:15

for me personally especially the latest

1:31:17

stages of this discussion uh I

1:31:20

definitely think we're rooting around

1:31:20

the bottom of the Bitcoin Rabbit Hole uh

1:31:23

hope you guys enjoyed this uh and I'll

1:31:26

see you back here soon for the next one

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foreign

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