Bitcoin’s Seven Layers of Security #2 | The Saylor Series | Episode 15 (WiM059)
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so we're talking about the seven layers
of security and the proof-of-work
network
and the first layer is energy and the
second layer is technology and the third
layer is political
and um in all these cases bitcoin is
becoming more secure more long-lived
because it's co-opting
uh important actors in each of these
three areas
we need a network of politicians
to defend the network
you need a network of technology
providers and semiconductor providers in
order to secure it
we need a network of energy providers to
secure it the fourth area that's
fascinating to me is
the financial
dimension of security of bitcoin
because miners are capital intensive
you need capital
uh to build the mining facilities and to
acquire the rigs and to do the
engineering
so that capital comes from outside the
bitcoin system so it's u.s dollar
capital for the most part
or it's currency equivalence
bitcoin miners therefore are recruiting
a network
of
fiat investors
there's a whole set of conventional
investors
they can't buy bitcoin
or they wouldn't buy bitcoin but they
would buy an operating company
that mines bitcoin
kind of like people that don't want to
own gold but they want to own gold
mining companies
so this is incredibly stabilizing for
the network because
for example
today the news was fidelity had bought
seven percent of marathon
so a big
credible um
traditional investor
i think fidelity has like two trillion
dollars trillions of dollars of capital
and 20 million
customers
and they've been around forever
right that company is now invested in
a bitcoin miner
how does bitcoin benefit well
now you've got hundreds of millions of
dollars to lose if the bitcoin miner
fails and so the investor
has a vested interest in protecting
their interest
and so bitcoin recruits
uh
a whole network of legal
marketing
and political lobbying capability
as it recruits investors
there are trillions and trillions of
dollars
in the conventional economy
that for legal reasons or political
reasons or business reasons or tax
reasons
uh
or practical reasons and technical
they can't buy bitcoin
but they can
buy a security based on bitcoin
so in fact from their point of view
they would prefer to buy the publicly
traded company or
if you're a public company investor
you would prefer to buy a publicly
traded company and if you're a private
investor you prefer to buy the stock of
a privately traded company
and that's just what their pool of
capital does
so
you
if you want to co-opt that financial
network of investors you need a capital
intensive use of proceeds
so bitcoin mining is capital intensive
and proof of work is capital intensive
if i snap my fingers
and i go say the proof of stake and you
don't actually need to buy equipment
and you don't need to engineer the
facility
and you don't need to buy the energy
then you don't need the capital
well then you don't need the investor
then you don't need the investment
banker
then you don't need the market they
trade in
i guess then you don't need the support
of the congressmen the senators and the
regulators they know
and you probably don't need the media
journalists that they talk to
you're losing all of that
right and you're also starting to look
like
you've created your own
different system
okay you created a virtual world
where
the politicians and the media and the
capital and the bankers in the other
world are irrelevant
you created your imaginary world right
and bitcoin
bitcoin mining bridges
the bitcoin universe the you know the
crypto asset of bitcoin with the
physical
and the political universe
and if if money
money is uh
it's socio-economic
energy
well there's two elements that the
energy part says that it needs to be
thermodynamically sound and conservative
and correct
but the social economic part says
you need the politicians
and you need the media and you need the
influencers right
so
the the process by which i construct
bitcoin mining companies is a process of
recruiting the support
of bankers
investors politicians and influencers
as well as technologists
and energy producers
and
that is a virtuous process
that that is actually the hard work you
could think of it is
as when you're building a bitcoin mine
that's the cash and or that's the
foundation upon which you're building
the bridge you know if you ever look at
these bridges that cross the chesapeake
bay they have to dig down and they have
to put in place massive pilings in order
to uh to build
the bridge on top of it so if if the
substructure and the foundation
is weak
then the bridge itself is prone to
collapse right
the bitcoin miners themselves
they do all four of these things and
then and then the fifth thing the fifth
layer of security is the network
itself and
by the network
i'm really referring to the bitcoin
mining centers
every place every place the bitcoin
miners set up their own mining center
they're they're plugging into the energy
grid they're pl they're bringing in the
mining rigs they're engineering them and
suiting them they're getting the
political support
they're raising money
and now the miners themselves have their
own companies
and there's a lot of public companies
and a lot of private companies we'll
have flank a dozen publicly traded
bitcoin miners by the end of the year
but let's say there's hundreds of
private companies
all of these companies are part of the
network of security for bitcoin they all
have skin in the game
they all have invested human capital
financial capital technical capital
energy capital
time
as you can imagine they don't want to
lose that
right they feel pain
and so because they feel pain they don't
want to lose that they invest to protect
that and so how do you invest to protect
a hundred million dollars invested in
bitcoin mining
you're going to contribute to political
campaigns
you're going to hire lawyers you know
there are experts in texas energy law
you're going to hire lobbyists you're
going to hire uh marketing people that
are going to explain why bitcoin is good
for the world not bad for the world
you're going to you're going to hire hr
people to manage all your hr issues
you're going to hire financiers to
report this to the investors
you're going to spend a lot of time
talking to all these constituencies to
make the investors happy
keep the politicians happy
you're going to be an early warning
system uh against mishap like if if
there's
if there's a bug in the software bitcoin
or if there's a bug in the hardware of
bitcoin if you don't trust the mining
rig manufacturer you're gonna push back
if if you think that the software is not
being upgraded fast enough or the the
hardware is not being upgraded fast
enough
to keep the network secure and to
protect your investment you're going to
lobby and agitate
and uh you're going to do that in a
context where
where there's a balance of power between
you
and the node operators the validators
who's a lot right there's a lot of them
and then there's also a balance of power
with bitcoin investors
right if you try to change the number of
bitcoin or you try to change the hash or
try to change the block size you'll
probably have a lot of bitcoin holders
that'll push back on you
um
and then you're going to do it in
balance with your
fiat investors
the people that hold your securities or
the derivatives
and you're going to be
managing the business to try to stay in
alignment with regulations in 100
different jurisdictions
and you're going to be communicating all
the time so
the bitcoin mining network is the fifth
layer of security approved work
and ultimately when you get to a point
where you have 50 well-capitalized
bitcoin miners
and they've got billions of dollars each
at stake
and they're spread across all the
countries in the world
then
they are in essence the first line of
defense for bitcoin
right you can call them different things
you can think of them as i refer them as
a motor of sovereignty
they're running the motor that keeps the
sovereign network fresh and they're
providing the transactions and the
security
but you can also look at them as the uh
at the round houses on the wall right
there
they are the first thing you're going to
attack
right when you decide you want to attack
bitcoin you're going to attack a bitcoin
miner they're the first thing to get
attacked
since they have the most at risk
if you're a bitcoin miner in china right
what have you suffered
you know that
a lot
they have the most to lose
and so the bitcoin miner in switzerland
is going to be spending a lot of time
you know thinking about whether there's
a political attack coming from
switzerland on bitcoin right
they will be the early warning system
the canaries in the coal mine if you
will
and so those those five layers
those are they're implied by the
proof-of-work algorithm
and we get energy technology politics we
get finance and we get
network
support and they're all sources of
inertia and anti-fragility
and they they all draw forms of capital
that are not bitcoin bitcoin is capital
but
dollar capital tech semiconductor
capital you know
political capital energy capital right
human capital
all of these forms of capital
are creating a genetic diversity
and a darwinian vitality
for the network
if i get rid of all that capital
if i just said well uh bitcoin's gonna
become a proof of stake network and
we're just gonna stake bitcoin to run
bitcoin
right you see what you've done is
created again a hermetically sealed
closed system
but that becomes an inbred system
and that means the biggest bitcoin
holder when they go insane
right the heart the security is not
going to get upgraded
right
we're not going to look for we're not
going to continue to distribute the
network we're not going to upgrade the
technology anymore
we're not going to spend much time
complying with
the local political rules
you know when howard hughes was the
richest man in the world he ended up
retiring to the top floor of his hotel
and didn't come out of his room for
seven years
he went bat crazy
you know you can do that when you're the
richest man in the world when you don't
need anybody else yeah
you know but but you can't do that
you know when you have responsibilities
you have to get up every day and you
have to go and put on a suit or a tire
or at least conform with the local
morays right
and that keeps you from going off the
deep end or off the abyss so this this
this vortex
you're describing of you know energy
technology politics surrounding bitcoin
that it's kind of assembling for itself
it's centered on
the expenditure of energy that's what
makes it real that's what gives all
these actors skin in the game
and the proof of stake model would be
something that severs that bridge you
know we have this digital reality and
physical reality that's anchored by
energy expenditure but if you move the
proof of stake you've now you've severed
that bridge
and yeah
the uh it's creating i mean on the
network mining specifically there's kind
of this dynamic equilibrium right
between of the governance between miners
nodes and all these various stakeholders
and i guess the last point that i think
is really important when we saw
exhibited
uh in this the chinese mining exodus was
the network's very amorphous you know
like you try one jurisdiction tries to
stamp it down
and what happens a lot of these miners
get boxed up shipped elsewhere plugged
back in it's a swarm creature yes
it's a swarm creature yeah
and it's a swat but it's a swarm
creature that lives
in the physical world and in the
political world it is not a is not a
creature in in cyberspace or it's not a
disembodied astral projection
i mean
if you cut the cord if you don't need
energy you don't need the semiconductors
if you don't need political support if
you don't need external capital and if
you don't need to engineer a facility
you don't need a corporate structure
then uh you've created a virtual world
like second life right and now
right if i create a virtual world
and i design in a virtual money or
virtual token
and then i stake that virtual token to
secure a virtual network
so that people can trade you know
virtual goods and virtual things
you know i can create virtual security
but it's virtually certain
right that someone's going to create
another virtual world
right right
yeah
you know
and so you're creating the problem is
yeah you outsmarted yourself you created
something which was free and easy
which means that you know
the guy that uh the guy that copied
whatever to create aetherium well then
the guy copies ethereum to create
cardano and then someone copies corodano
to create the
unis
they make sushi swap and then they make
the next thing
because you can do it fast and easy
what you've done is you've created a
virtual casino or a virtual world and
virtual money
and
it's not that you can't create a
business around it like second life is a
business
right uh fortnite is a business right
you know online gambling is a business
you can create a virtual casino or a
virtual game or a virtual world
dungeons and dragons and you can live in
it you can buy your virtual vorpal blade
and you can use it to kill the virtual
dragon
but the problem is
you don't have a bridge
to the thermodynamic real world
right nor do you have a a political
bridge to the political world
and
and you have um
you have lost
the space space-time constants
that uh that give the property integrity
and durability
and that's probably it's a good segue
for me to go to layers six and seven
the sixth layer is the spatial layer and
the seventh layer is the temporal layer
so by spatial layer i mean
the proof of work bitcoin mining network
um
forces you to spread out throughout the
world because you're not going to find
120
terawatt hours of energy
in one building
and even if you did in one building
the heat engineering is such that you
can't stack the bitcoin miners up over
each other like that
so you have to spread out and the
natural competition means that well we
find a volcano here and a nuclear
reactor there and we find some stranded
gas here
it's an open system and it's it's
naturally diffusing and decentralizing
and um
and that's important if
if you have a proof proof-of-stake
network and i have 50
or 20 percent of all the money
right then i can just stake the entire
network in monaco
right
right there's what why would why would
you need to spread it to the four
corners of the earth
well the problem with staking the
network in monaco right is that maybe
monaco as a as a political attack or
maybe the building gets wiped out
you know what if i stake the entire
network on like 16 computers in the same
place right centralization
yeah you're centralizing it and
you're putting it
there there is no thermodynamic
incentive to decentralize it and there
is no requirement
but in in fact
with proof of work and and the
requirement of energy
it naturally is going to create an
incentive for someone to put this on a
waterfall in the middle of africa
and
that that distributes the security load
you don't want all the security to come
from manhattan
right
right if all the security comes to
manhattan that's proof of stake that's
centralized pretty soon you've got
central bank
you know pretty soon you know like three
people get together and decide your
destiny
everything just centralizes you really
want to have the security come from a
country that you can't get to because if
you can't get to it
your enemy can't get to it
and ideally it decentralizes so it's
even hard to just to distinguish where
it's coming from
so that that spatial um that spatial
layer
is forcibly decentralizing it and it's
not it's not just decentralizing it
geographically it's also decentralizing
it politically right
and and
that causes it to decentralize across
lots of institutions
lots of political jurisdictions
and lots of geographic places
and if you want to attack it there is no
one central place to attack right you
can't find the vector yeah right there's
no logical nexus and there's no physical
nexus right how do i find the top you
know 51 of the hash rates in 198
facilities around the world how do i
take control of all 50 you know all 198
of them overnight without it to be
noticing because that's crossing 100
borders yeah yeah it's neutralizing all
these central attack vectors
so that it's
i guess it's by virtue of its own
proliferation it's becoming more immune
to attack
from anyone
it becomes immune to a cyber attack it
becomes
immune to a physical attack and it
becomes immune to a political attack
yeah
and it even becomes somewhat immune to
um to a protocol attack where someone
tries to get people to change the
protocol right it's just much harder to
attack the durability the integrity of
the network because
it becomes so spatially
distributed yeah the proof of stake 10
people might actually stake 51 so now i
can actually identify the 10 people now
i know who to attack right
psychologically
physically
whatever yeah
i don't even know where to start with
something which is
spatially distributed
so the the seventh layer is temporal
distribution
and by that it just means that
the attack has to come over time
because it takes 12 to 24 months to
create a world-class
bitcoin mining center
it takes another 12 months maybe to
order all the equipment
so
how do i go about ordering seventh
generation equipment
secretly
or with malicious intent
and then i have to convince someone to
front me the money right so i have to
hood wink a billion billions of dollars
of investors then i have to buy billions
of dollars of equipment
then i have to wait 12 months
then i have to
get someone to engineer the center and i
have to get them to agree to do it
because they trust me they're not going
to do it if they think i'm going to
attack the network
then i have to get the politicians to
let me build it
could take three five years
then i have to get all the engineers
then i have to build it i have to bring
it online so that i can attack the
network
and i got to do all that
without a single person guessing that
i'm trying to do it if one person thinks
that i might have malicious intent they
leaked that on twitter and two million
people would know it in seven minutes
yeah
so
so that
that's incredible the space-time
uh functioning of bitcoin is important
you don't want it to move fast this is
why you know
if you if you read the block size wars a
lot of maneuvering back and forth but at
the end of the day
the immediate a priori observation is
they shouldn't have tried to change
anything it was a mistake to try to
change the block size it's a mistake to
change the frequency
why
because
when you create a crypto universe or a
crypto creature
the block size and the frequency of the
network are akin to the space-time
constants of the universe it's like
trying to change the gravitational
constant and the speed of light
is like you don't get to play god
except once
you can play god once
if satoshi had designed the network with
you know
1.2 megabyte blocks and eight minute
frequency it might have worked
and there are some parameters that
wouldn't have worked but once he started
it
and it started to spin then you don't
change it
because
because the um
the size of the the block size
is kind of like the packing density of
carbon atoms you know or carbon
molecules you know all right it's like
you don't
if you if you were to change the speed
of light or the gravitational constant
let's say you change gravity on the on
the surface of the earth
let's say i made it 3x
what it is right now
what happens to every creature
every bridge every building
every plant
every factory
what happens when i crank up the
gravitational constant by a factor of
three
they are failing strategies all of a
sudden
if you change gravity
heck crank it up by a factor of ten
what happens
every building
and everything built up till now
collapses
i.e all work
is negated not just work by mankind work
by animals
work by mother nature yes rivers
mountains collapse
you know bridges collapse companies
collapse
countries collapse
so you would negate all past work
you would uh
you would imperil or or um
or uh impair all structures
you would imp you would impair or or
destroy all machinery constructed any
machine that works would stop working
and you would throw the future to chaos
and it's pretty obvious you're playing
god right change the speed of light same
thing's going to happen right the
reynolds number determines the hull
speed of a ship
change the reynolds number change the
way that molecules move around you know
a hydro
you know foil
yeah nothing works
something sync
at best everything just gets destroyed
you know commerce collapses
so when you think about it like that you
come back to the crypto universe you
said okay you created a crypto
you set your space time parameters
now the future of mining is based on
that block size and that frequency
change the block size change the
forecast of the mining revenue change
the change the expectations of every
investor
change every business decision
invalidate all business decisions yeah
at some point right if you keep
the the foolishness of like doubling the
block size which is what the big
blockers wanted to do is if they had
doubled the block size over and over
again they would have driven transaction
fees to zero
when transactions fees go to zero the
revenue of the bitcoin mining business
is
dramatically changed now there's no
future revenue model now you have miners
lobbying to change the block rewards you
would basically
bankrupt the mining business screw it
all up and then you would have you know
you've got no security network because i
can't afford to actually secure the
network so
so what they were imagining a world
where everything had to be on the base
layer and they're monkeying with the
base layer and instead what they should
have seen is that the world is in layers
the the key is
the base layer of bitcoin is like the
granite
underlying manhattan
you never needed it to be lighter if
somebody said i have an idea let's turn
the granite in manhattan into cotton
candy it'll taste better
it's like are you an idiot
if you turn all of manhattan into cotton
candy all the buildings are going to
sink we're all going to die
in a cotton candy swamp
it's like you know it's so silly like
we're laughing
but the point is but the granite's heavy
and it's hard for me to move and it's
slow and the transaction fees on moving
granite around are high
yes
exactly you're not supposed to move the
granite yeah you're supposed to build on
top of the granite
and the same is true with the base layer
you're not supposed to move the base
layer the point of the base layer is to
be here a thousand years from now right
right yeah you can wave your arm and
convert the granite into sand or into
you know into mud
and you can move it
you know you can shovel it out of the
way with your little toy shovel from the
seashore when you were a kid
right but but the point is you can't
build a city that's going to last a
thousand years on mud and on sand
and if you had if you have a
understanding of the universe
the universe is layers and layers
and the consequences of the speed of
sound
is everything that flies through the air
and the consequence of the speed of
light
is everything in the universe and the
consequence of the gravitational
constant is how the water flows and how
the mountains move
and once you understand those things you
can build everything everything that
humanity's done in the history of the
human race is predicated upon those
space-time constants being what they
were and when you decide to routinely
change them you're playing god
and when you play god
right you you pretty much destroy
everything that came before and throw
into chaos everything that comes
afterwards
you know after leveling every building
and wrecking leaving a trail of wreckage
you know in
in the present day
yeah like an earthquake except it's
it's worse than an earthquake
it's like a continual rolling
you know randomized series of different
earthquakes every second
yeah and that's why you don't want to
screw with that
right yeah for
the way i'm looking at this is if we go
back to that
you know life and bitcoin being the
survival strategy propagating forward
those strategies
optimize
for the environmental invariance
so you know life is optimizing kind of
to overcome gravity in a way and if you
change one of these invariants all of a
sudden you invalidate all the survival
strategies like everything that's all
the adaptation
all the fitness modification that's ever
been done it's just worthless all of a
sudden double gravity kill all the birds
yeah like that yeah kill all the birds
right like
it's like it's a very why would just
double the block size or cut it in half
yeah because like everything will die
why don't we cut the oxygen you know the
oxygen content in half yes happens and
then that very
precedent
destroys bitcoin right has there been a
successful change and i've heard it put
this way is that
you know bitcoin cannot be reproduced
because ear reproducibility was the
invention it's like to create something
that no one can change
so if you somehow
yeah if you somehow change it then all
of a sudden
you've destroyed that you know
invariants that it was offering
um
and this is incredible i've never
thought about how these layers actually
preserve it in such a way and the
temporal layer is interesting too
because it's
if you try to attack it it's like
there's no way to do it without alerting
network participants so there's just
this it's kind of like a lag or a buffer
and a complex system that stabilizes it
like you try to create a change
people adapt
that's the sound
that's the speed of sound
like for example you're like wouldn't it
be great if sound move faster or slower
well
a shock wave is when you attack the air
faster than it moves out of the way
right so well do we need a speed of
sound
yeah you need a speed of sound what if
we made the speed of sound equal to
speed of light
not a good idea
you know like
not a good idea if you want the universe
to work
what if we got rid of friction
like transaction fees are too high let's
take them to zero well that's the same
as saying let's just get rid of friction
and let's get rid of gravity well
getting rid of gravity and getting rid
of friction is a problem because like
pretty much every everything we created
like works with it
right like try how about your tires
without friction
like how well is your car going to drive
uh
you know so like they're not bad things
the thing that was you know in the
defense of the big blockers the
lightning network was not as manifestly
clear today but if all you have to do is
look at a lightning wallet a lightning
transaction
and look at um a layer two and a layer
three transaction look at how square
cache app works
look at how moon works
i can send a thousand sats in a split
second for one sat
once you see that you realize layer two
platforms layer three applications are
gonna move bitcoin at the speed of light
in an almost friction free way
and what did you really want from
bitcoin you wanted it to not break
yeah
right you never it was foolish to it's
foolish to risk
the immortality
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of bitcoin in order to go from one
megabyte to two megabyte blocks right
it's foolish how about
you could have had something that would
be immortal and you could build a
civilization that would last for 10 000
years and you could just do it using
layer two and layer three apps
but instead we're risking putting out
the fire of civilization to try to
change the space-time coefficients of of
the one crypto network
which successfully took root and
decentralized right yeah and that
emulates nature properly to your point
where nature evolves in layers so we
need an unshakable foundation to support
higher layers
so let's talk a little bit about
proof-of-stake and the like because
that's the elephant in the room here
look proof of work is an open
competitive
natural system
it emulates darwinian competition
and it's open
proof of stake is a closed controlled
system
and so the problem with a closed control
is it's not darwinian
and uh and there's no genetic diversity
it becomes inbred
so if you look at let's take a shoreline
a living shoreline if you're trying to
actually uh maintain such a thing the
way they engineer it is
you would create 200 foot long uh
revitments and then you would put a
break in it for the sea water to come in
and then you create another revit meant
to to protect the shore from the surf
but you always have to have a break for
sea water to come in
if you don't leave that channel for sea
water to come in then the water behind
the revetment becomes putrid
right
it's pretty you know you don't want you
know you ever seen a putrid standing
body of water without any circulation
you know it breeds bacteria it becomes
infested it becomes dangerous it's not
healthy
right um
and why it's closed
you know it's closed system
all you know all cities all
civilizations why do you build a city on
a river because you need something to
carry the waste away
right what happens if you recirculate
your waste in your own
how long can you you know recirculate
the waste in your spacesuit
how long can you recirculate the water
in the waste in your apartment you know
well
proof of stake is recirculating itself
and and the problem there is unless you
have perfect components and you never
and you have
you know perfect conditions
at some point either
the toxicity of the closed environment
destroys the ecosystem
or it becomes so fragile
because of the lack of darwinian
competition and a lack of ecological
genetic diversity that um
eventually it dies
it's like
you know it's like a
it's like a creature endlessly cloning
itself right
after you endlessly clone yourself
you're subject to genetic mutations and
defects you you know that's why you know
every organic creature has sex right you
you actually want to keep mixing the dna
right in order to avoid the
mutated defects
right and you can't cleanse yourself you
can't fix
the species this is like a closed system
like a photocopy of a photocopy of a
photocopy eventually it gets very
blurry right
yeah
and and i guess coming back to the other
elephant in the room here
bitcoin is a successful proof-of-work
network that has created our first
digital money
our first digital property
bitcoin has done that we can see that
there are no successful examples
of a proof-of-stake
network succeeding as digital property
that's the elephant in the room
there are no successful proof-of-stake
networks
right we've never gotten
what would be required to be successful
well here's a simple one
uh
if the united states government
designated a proof-of-stake
network
as property
and not a security
it's never happened
in fact you know the head of the sec
just went on television and said if
there's an ico and there's a
shared enterprise with intent to profit
then it's a security yeah
so as far as i can see every
proof-of-stake network that's been
launched
looks to be by legal definition of
security not property
and even ethereum
isn't a proof-of-stake network so
there's a debate about about whether it
is property or not and that'll
eventually be resolved
right but
but um
there's absolutely no question that
at this point the only successful
digital property that's ever been
created in the history of the world
was created on a proof-of-work network
right
there's nothing else everything else is
just like a garage science experiment
right a venture a venture experiment and
on the surface
they all appear to be securities
right i mean not none of them have
successfully decentralized or been
embraced
as property
and it's not clear whether they can
successfully decentralize
i mean theoretically
theoretically new things are possible
but practically speaking
we have one example
of crypto property or crypto money
that is bitcoin and everything else is
is a speculation let me ask you the
could we say
it seems to me like central banks in a
way
are kind of a proof-of-stake network
where essentially the more
gold they have or reserves they're
staking
the more interest and inflation revenue
they can generate effectively so
could we say that then a proof of stake
network
could only really exist with because
again there's gold underlying that a
proof of work underlying central banks
um
no uh
countries are you know currencies are
proof of stake
if you own a country
like if you own a country you can
designate
your currency
or your token to be a currency
because you make the law
right
right so i mean that's the case right i
mean venezuela can designate their
currency and the us can designate its
currency
so you have you have examples of those
systems they're they're not crypto proof
of stake systems they're right right or
fiat but they are inherently
centralizing which i don't see why a
crypto system and they are centralized
yeah and they all centralize yeah
and and uh you know it seems logical
that uh that other stake systems will
centralize yeah
and and by the way
centralization is not
inherently a vice as long as it's this
as long as it's treated as a security
for example
you know
a publicly traded company that has a
stock
has a centralized token that is the
but they are they have obligations to
disclose the number of those such tokens
to their shareholders and it's illegal
uh for them to act in a duplicitous
unethical fashion
and it's also
it's also illegal for a politician to
promote
that security because that gives it
unfair advantage to uh
to one company over another right
so if you treat it as a security
then a staked token
you know is
is uh ethical and legal yeah it could
just never work for money
yeah it's just not it's not ethical to
create
private money as a security token and
represent that it's property
right that that's where you're you're
crossing the moral hazard boundary
and so i
i think the summary here is
bitcoin has created digital money
digital property
if you will either um on top of a
decentralized proof-of-work network
there are there are other proof-of-work
networks that are much smaller and less
successful
that are less decentralized
that are struggling to a degree
not winning against bitcoin
and there are other theoretical
approaches to creating a decentralized
network none of them have succeeded to
date
if the definition of success is
is to be deemed morally and legally as
property
by a legitimate government
all right everybody that was episode 15
of the sailor series uh and this episode
got into
the second half of sailor's framework
which he calls the seven layers of
security
uh so we went through layers four
through seven in this episode
we started with
the fourth layer which is the financial
layer
um this one's somewhat
intuitive but there is an element to it
that that may be uh is less intuitive
this essentially means bitcoin's
recruiting capital right but
specifically
large long-lived pools of capital
and it's
doing this in a way that is actually
creating incentives for those that can't
purchase bitcoin directly to adopt it uh
even indirectly so
sailor gave the example of you know
funds
entities convertible debt offerings all
of these being mechanisms
for you know large capital pools like
uh
institutions endowments things like this
to gain
uh financial access to bitcoin
indirectly
being that a lot of these investment
charters are restricted from owning
crypto assets or um or are required to
own a certain mix of say equities or
bonds uh of a certain credit rating et
cetera et cetera
so
this um
this
financial lair
is interesting because it's
basically causing
all of the money in the world which is
we've touched on a lot
bitcoin is really just out competing all
other forms of money so all other
capital pools which are expressly
organized to optimize the returns of
their shareholders or their stakeholders
it uh bitcoin kind of enmeshes itself
into these
these alternative capital networks
and this just becomes a virtuous cycle
right
this again the key to understanding
bitcoin is that
no one has figured out how you break
this virtuous cycle of its monetization
process
so we have this
virtual cycle of rational actors
basically
coming into bitcoin or gaining exposure
to it either directly or indirectly um
to optimize their own benefits so
it's it's not even a matter of like have
you studied bitcoin or are you ignoring
bitcoin it's uh i think sailor said way
earlier in this series
quoting someone who said war you may not
be interested in war but war is
interested in you
this vortex of incentives that bitcoin
represents is just
no one's figured out how to stop it and
if you are
to any extent a rational economic actor
that seeks to preserve wealth over time
then you're basically being forced um
to look into bitcoin to learn about
bitcoin ultimately to buy bitcoin so
i think if
the difficulty in understanding bitcoin
is
significant you have to understand a lot
of different a lot of different things
about different fields
but i think the
awareness of its
real impact on the world is right here
right in this virtuous in the heart of
this virtuous cycle
that you know sailor has properly
identified but no one has figured out
how you can stop
um
so that's that's the fourth layer and
then we got into the fifth layer which
is the mining network itself
and
you know the point here is that bitcoin
miners
again if bitcoin is a microcosm of
capitalism bitcoin miners have skin in
the game and this is the key key point
that they are incentivized to protect
these large capital investments they've
created in the form of the mining
network
um and this is you know again the
centerpiece to drawing all the
politicians the lawyers the marketing
the educators etc etc is that um miners
will invest in these people to protect
their capital investment in the mining
network
and so
you know being that they have skin in
the game
it's when any time bitcoin is under
duress in any form you know a political
physical attack whatever maybe a
technical attack
miners feel the pain right they
experience this directly
as an impact to their capital investment
and then they are the defense
they're the first responders right or
the
uh drivers of the adaptivity and the
network if you will um and maybe it's
useful here to to just define skin in
the game
it's a term thrown around a lot
uh you know you're probably you probably
have an intuitive sense of what it means
but specifically it is a balance
of incentives and disincentives
so for instance we often think that
a an executive in a corporation may be
aligned his incentives may be aligned
with a corporation because he has a
stock options plan or equity or
something like that and that's true in a
sense and that he's positively aligned
but
if the stock price suffers
they're not
there's no clawback on their stock
options for instance or
or claw back on past salary or anything
like that so
corporate executives are often
positively aligned with the interest of
the corporation but they don't have this
disincentive uh component to skin in the
game
and this the distance of portion is
really important right this is what
makes nature work
if you
cause someone pain or an animal pain
that is the strongest signal
imaginable to cause them to want to
adapt and change whatever they're doing
to avoid the pain
um so
it says carrots plus sticks right it's
not skin in the game it's not just the
carrots you also have the sticks as well
and this inspires responsibility frankly
and you see this
in capitalism this this
idea of skin in the game is enshrined in
capitalism and that if you have property
rights in something
the rights are
the access you have to the benefits the
asset can create right but you also have
responsibilities right you are
responsible to care for that asset to
secure that asset to custody it
to cultivate it in a way that creates
maximal value for you
um
so we also see so skin in the game
there's there's incentives and
disincentives to property right you're
incentivized to optimize your property
and you're
you have a responsibility to take care
of the property which is a disincentive
uh not to be negligent essentially
and then we also have like profits and
losses right this is the the price
signal that's guiding entrepreneurial
action and the allocation of capital
clearly it's a risk and reward right the
the
carrot are the profits if something's
profitable that means you're satisfying
a want in an economic way that's
something entrepreneurs pursue and they
try to avoid losses
which would be the allocation of capital
in an uneconomic way
so this like
what's so key to this is that pain
is information
um you know you're getting signals about
what's going right but it's really
the things that really sharpen you tend
to be the pain frankly and you may have
you may know this from your own life
where
there's this
old joke about the uh some related joke
just the curse of the entrepreneur so if
you've executed one strategy or recipe
or business model successfully in the
world
your tendency is to want to repeat that
exact model even though it may not be
successful in all circumstances
so there's good guidance you get from
success and profit but you really learn
through pain
and i think this is a just a really
important point that the all the market
actors in bitcoin
have the highest possible skin in the
game right we talk about bitcoin
inspiring this hyper responsibility if
you will even if you're just a holder
right the fact that you can hold
your private keys as a bare asset
that's a lot of power but that comes
with a great deal of responsibility as
well so there's this
this balance of incentives and
disincentives as every aspect of the
bitcoin network that really makes it
shine
and this
so we could say skin in the game
actually drives
the
rapidness and the effectiveness of
adaptation itself
and so the network actors or networks
that
respond more quickly to pain right to
say their actors have more skin in the
game they are going to out compete all
those that do not
by definition right this is just
darwinian
so when you look at uh
say these zombie companies that are
living off of qe infinity right they're
just generating perpetual losses but
thanks to government subsidies they
continue to survive
those businesses will be out competed by
more capitalistic businesses um and then
the money itself right
fiat currency
it's not something that feels pain it
does the actors in the central bank feel
no pain whatsoever about their decision
making
they're compensated the same right they
don't share in the downside risk
of fiat currency production so
you're just talking about this
perfectly incentivized network
of actors competing with another net
network of actors that are basically
anesthetized to all pain so which one do
you think is going to adapt out compete
and perform better i mean the answer
becomes quite intuitive
um and so for that reason you know
sailor described bitcoin mining network
as kind of like an early warning system
you know if there are protocol issues if
there's supply chain disruptions for the
the semiconductors themselves
uh miners are going to be the first to
respond because again their capital is
at stake right their investment their
reputation etc etc
and so
sailor described bitcoin mining
as a motor of sovereignty
which i thought was really interesting
that
you kind of maximize the sovereignty of
these individual actors
and
in doing so you've given them an
incentive and disincentive schema
to
basically optimize for bitcoin success
and network growth
which is itself empowering the
sovereignty of individual holders so
there's this virtuous feedback loop
uh between the motors of sovereignty is
the the miners and then uh
self-sovereign holders themselves
and
i heard it you know someone said this
recently too that
bitcoin makes sovereignty scalable right
for the first time in history
serving the ultimate minority
right the individual the ultimate
minority in the world
the interests of that minority are
protected and and
provided for by bitcoin so bitcoin is
a motor of sovereignty that's optimizing
the sovereignty of individuals and
that's what causes it to out-compete and
it causes it to out-can be these other
you know quote-unquote sovereign systems
that have established our sovereignty
through force
so we're talking about you know the
power of choice versus the power of
force
and i think that
it's just more energetically efficient
to have a
system based on volunteerism
than on involuntarism
and that that is why these systems open
systems out compete in the long run
right that's why the internet out
competed the intranet and that's why
bitcoin is effectively going to
outcompete all closed source monies
uh so
the first five layers as sailor said it
gives the network inertia
gives it anti-fragility and it causes it
to attract capital
and if you flip that
that's all based on proof of work if you
flip that to proof-of-stake all those
layers would dissipate so all these
protective layers that are insulating
bitcoin from competitive disruption
they would not coalesce around a
proof-of-stake model for the very
logical reasons we've explored here
and so
the example
given was bitcoin is like this swarm
creature that's anchored in the physical
world via energy expenditure so we've
you know
sailor made the great point any
consensus mechanism besides proof of
work which is not bridged into
thermodynamic reality
just becomes a video game
and that can have value right there's
fortnite and all these
very popular video games that have value
and they have their own little economies
but they are segregated from the real
world and that there is no thermodynamic
bridge between the two
and bitcoin's different in that it is
like one of these video game monies if
you will
but it's
it becomes real it makes the game real
by requiring energy expenditure
in the mining competition that's what
makes this
digital money a real world monetary
network
it's a super interesting way to look at
it
and then so after covering the first
five layers we got into the fifth and
the sixth which are spatial and temporal
and so looking at the spatial layer a
bit
bitcoin
is
forcing miners to basically spread out
right they are in hunt of the cheapest
energy resources available in the world
um stranded energy things that are not
economically usable
that's what bitcoin flows to first now
i've given this example before that uh
nick carter gave at one point if you
imagine
the world as a sphere like a topological
sphere where
points of more expensive energy are
higher points of cheaper energy or lower
you can imagine bitcoin like pouring a
glass of water on this sphere where it
levels out and goes to the lowest
lowest places first so
bitcoin's
economizing
the use of energy by basically allowing
us to monetize
underused or unused energy sources
and this is
causing
it to spread out spatially so the
network is self-distributing if you will
uh it's naturally diffusing and
decentralizing via the incentives that
are intrinsic to bitcoin itself
so again it's not a matter of a top-down
plan like determining who needs to be
where is this
this microcosm of capitalism that is
bitcoin just
flowering and deciding where it should
be based on market consensus you know
based on the
the individual self-interest of each
market actor but which is aligned with
the greater interest of
of all users of money and that's
you know keep kind of dancing around but
that's the core point here is this
vortex of incentives that no one can
avoid and everyone benefits uh by
aligning themselves with
and this is opposite to proof-of-stake
again proof-of-stake
leads to spatial centralization because
all of a sudden
you don't need to attach it to energy
you don't need to spread it around the
world you just need to do it efficiently
which is the whole point of proof of
stake in the first place so you just put
it all in one place you know i think
sailor gave the example of monaco
and that just leads to political
vulnerability right if your whole
security model is in one place that
means it's very easily
identifiable
and attackable
so
proof of work is this consensus
mechanism
that self decentralizes away from these
attack vectors physical political
technical
and it basically neutralizes them so
it's
the power of the open network
the voluntary open network is really
hard to overstate
especially when it comes to threats you
know single attack vectors specifically
it just envelops them and neutralizes
them
and again opposite of proof of stake
proof of stake is going to make you more
vulnerable to all these attacks
you know cyber physical political etc
so finally we got into the seventh layer
which is the temporal layer
and this is this one blew my mind
because
everyone knows about the 51 attack in
bitcoin uh this is its one
you know quote unquote vulnerability
satoshi addressed it from the beginning
that if you could control
a majority simple majority of the the
hash power
you could basically uh bend the network
to your will now you're not incentivized
to do so so you could
um you know double spend and do the
conduct other fraudulent transactions
and whatnot
although the incentives still
lean towards uh or point actors towards
honesty even in the event of a 51 attack
but to execute a 51 attack means gaining
51 percent of the hash power
and i had never thought about
the impediments to that the temporal
impediments
being that you would need you know
you have to go through all of these
production processes to fabricate the
semiconductors
to raise the capital
to manufacture them deploy them plug
them in
um
and you'd have to do all you know this
whole process they ever get to 51
you're chasing a moving target to you
because the hash rate just keeps growing
and
the temporal layers like as you're doing
this clearly you're making a lot of
noise right
it's a lot of money to try and i think
um
the numbers today i want to say around
between 30 and 50 million per day of
minor revenue so this would be block
subsidy plus transaction fees
um
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that that's a big number right that's a
big number it's a big incentive it's
drawing in more competitors into bitcoin
mining if you're trying to get to 51 of
that you're chasing a really quickly
moving target
you're making a lot of noise in the
world and this would be signaling
to all other market actors that there's
a big entrant coming in to mining
which would inspire them to pursue
similar strategies so
this buffer of time is really important
in insulating bitcoin and that if you
try to mobilize enough hash power to
attack it
you're just signaling to all other
market actors to be on the defensive or
to accumulate
even more hash power for themselves
making it even harder for you to mount a
51 attack
so
i thought that was just really
mind-blowing and then
you know lastly we got into this idea of
bitcoin's space-time constants
and sailor analogized the block size
and the block frequency as being akin to
the speed of light and gravity in the
universe
this is a really really interesting
point
and he
put this under the
rubric of you only get to play god once
which is effectively what satoshi did
and here's the way i think about this is
so the common thread again between
organisms organizations
institutions is that they are all
complex adaptive strategies
they're propagating across space and
time they're adapting to changes in the
environment uh attempting to improve
their fitness and reproduce right and
again this is true of life this is true
of business this is true of institutions
these strategies necessarily adapt to
constants or invariance
two of which uh
cosmologically are the speed of light
and gravity
this
all the strategies then so all the life
forms all the businesses all the
institutions are
basically
optimized around these constants such
that if you change the constant in any
way like he gave the example of gravity
if you double gravity
you destroy all the life
that has or let's say the vast majority
of the life that has optimized itself to
survive in those gravitational
conditions same is true of buildings
right the civil engineering
codes that were used to construct the
building would not work under double
gravity buildings would collapse you
know tires would explode etc etc etc so
there is this
we have the variance of these strategies
you know life business institutions
adapting themselves to the invariance
in their ecosystems
gravity speed of light etc
and this similar dynamic plays out with
money and that we have this is darwinism
right this is universal darwinism
what did market actors adopt as money
historically
they adopted gold why did they adopt
gold
because gold was the most
slow and predictable
no matter how much effort was allocated
towards gold's production
its supply increased the most slowly and
most predictably which is to say
the supply of gold or the scarcity of
gold was the most
invariant magnitude in the marketplace
so
that caused market actors to rationally
select it as a store of value right
you're out in the marketplace
doing uh you know executing your
entrepreneurial craft whatever it is
you're facing a lot of variants a lot of
uncertainty a lot of changes
it's controlled chaos effectively this
is the business world
where do you want to store the
the
spoils of that battle if you will you
want to store it in a place that's
maximally insulated from that variance
the most invariant good
that was gold historically
so
in the same way that you know life forms
adapt themselves to the constancy of
gravity on earth
market actors adapt themselves to the
constancy of money the most invariant
money which was gold historically
but now in bitcoin we have something
radically new
it's the first perfect constant or
invariant ever in history uh in that we
have this fixed supply of 21 million
bitcoin
and
in order for the network to function
properly it only needed certain
constants
so again we talked about the block
frequency
every 10 minutes and then the block size
these were basically set in stone by
satoshi in the beginning these were just
invariants that he arbitrarily selected
but the point is that that network has
now organically grown up and all the
market actors and businesses have grown
up and adapted themselves to these
constants to these universal constants
within bitcoin
such that if you now try to go in and
vary these constants or vary these
invariants
you would shudder and uh debilitate all
the strategies that had that come into
the bitcoin network
so this just i mean he's just blowing
this whole block size
debate out of the water i mean it's
already market proven in 2017 but had
you even stopped to think about it for a
moment going through sailors framework
here it would have been very obvious
that
um
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these changes would not work essentially
and um
you know again to give the big blocker
some credit lightning network was less
obvious then but if you took a big
picture view on this you would see that
you know not only does nature evolve in
layers but technology evolves in lyrics
too the internet itself
is a stack of open source protocols it's
called the internet protocol suite it's
evolved in layers over time
and as i've argued in the past i think
it's proper to conceive bitcoin as the
latest
latest layer in the internet protocol
suite so you say bitcoin is the internet
itself
all of these other crypto assets um
so we'll stay focused on proof of stake
that's an open network right proof of
work is open
uh it's self-distributing it's resisting
political attack vectors physical attack
vectors technical proof of stake is the
opposite right it's a closed system it's
controlled by someone it's non-darwinian
it's not going through this
internally competitive process that
causes it to proliferate
and immunize itself to attack vectors
and you know sailor gave the example
here of stagnant water becoming putrid
and that proof of stake is effectively
recirculating itself right
those that stake the most are rewarded
the most so it's it's
if you just envision it like a pyramid
and those that hold the most whatever
the etherium token let's just say
ethereum's proof of stake
that are at the top of that pyramid
they're going to be rewarded most of the
stake staking rewards whether that's
inflation or some other uh economic
disbursement so
those that have the most will gain the
most i mean it's intuitive that this
thing is centralizing
uh which leads to detoxification and
corruption
and we have a great example of this
in the world today like we don't need to
theorize
central banking
is proof of stake
right it's whoever has the most gold
which is the proof of work money they
can effectively stake that into the
network and be the most irresponsible
with monetary policy so in the current
geopolitical paradigm that is the the
u.s
the u.s central bank is the fed we have
the most gold so we have
allowed ourselves or irrigated ourselves
the ability to write the banking rules
which is exactly what we did in bretton
woods
and since then we've been able to export
these paper slips called the dollar
to the world and receive goods and
services in exchange so this is this is
a proof of stake model and we see what
central banking does to wealth disparity
right it centralizes control of our
assets and eviscerates the middle class
um and so it's very logical and i would
argue intuitive that a crypto proof of
stake system would be similarly
centralizing over time
and that's why
proof-of-stake
it will fail i mean
maybe they'll find a way for it to work
for some
orthogonal marketplace but it will never
work in money right you need the
expenditure of energy
to
constitute the skin in the game that
creates these layers around bitcoin
right the f the five layers of security
plus the the spatial and temporal layers
anything short of work
right work being
the one phenomenon that mankind cannot
counterfeit it is impossible to
counterfeit work right this is
thermodynamic reality
energy cannot be created nor destroyed
we can only be transformed through work
that is at the heart and center of this
whole incentive vortex
that we call bitcoin
um
and
you know it's obvious that that would
out compete all closed source systems
including proof of stake systems
especially proof of stake systems
that again if we look at their
implementation of fiat currency
historically
via the central bank they're
self-annihilating right they centralize
over time until they collapse
so this is episode 15 uh of the sailor
series i think this framework he laid
out
uh the seven layers of security which
was you know episode 14 in episode 15 is
just brilliant
i've never heard anyone put it like this
i would say that sailor has officially
cemented proof of work as
the most inarguable and arguably
successful consensus mechanism for money
there is and i just
i have yet to hear a good counter
argument against it and
if i ever did
i would have them check out these past
two episodes so i hope you guys enjoyed
that
uh
we'll be back soon with episode 16 and
diving further into this bitcoin game so
i'll see you soon
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